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I wish I had a dollar for every ticket I've written to people with radar detectors! Good luck, but knowledgeable cops laugh at radar detectors!
It was a while ago but a buddy and I were driving through Connecticut and he got bagged by a State Cop. Officer walks up to drivers side and says license and registration. While my buddy was going for the glove box cop reaches in and grabs the radar detector. Buddy is like, WTF man why did you do that. Cop replies, their illegal in this state. Law says to arrest you for using it or confiscate it. Figured you would want to keep going since you’re from out of state. Hang on and I get the ticket done for speeding. Lmao, well played! At the time it was a 600 dollar detector
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I just go 5 mph over on the side streets an not over 10 over on the highway an hope the cops let me slide while they wait for a real speeder with a radar detector.
That is very close to my driving practice, and I have not had a ticket in decades, without ever using a radar detector. I figure that cops will generally let you slide on a minor speeding issue as long as you are staying in the flow of traffic and not doing anything else that is crazy and/or dangerous, like weaving, lane changing without signaling, tailgating, and so on.
 

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Your mileage may vary but banning any special event traffic or odd circumstances, in AZ they let you get away with 10 over.

If you think about it, on Surface-Streets, that's 55 in a 45 - PLENTY FAST ENOUGH. If you are on our freeways that's 85 in a 75 - Again Plenty Fast.

At speeds above 85/90 with the improvements in police radar technology, by the time you start to get a blip, can you really slow down in time without being "that guy" that all the sudden goes ass up in the left lane as you top a hill?

I'd rather spend that dough (and I did) on a dash cam. I'm far more at risk of some one doing some stupid shizz in front of me than getting a ticket.

My only ticket in the last 20 years was in a Zero Tolerance Drive Hammered Get Nailed Holiday Safety Corridor at 3:30 AM. They even had the big yellow highway signs that you can change the words on that told me so - I was warned ahead of time. I was driving to work and had come out of a 45 zone doing 55 (10 over) and was sick as a dog on 9 kinds of cold medication and just trying to get to work so I could go home and die. The 45 zone dropped into a 35 "Residential" Zone (yet oddly there were no houses, only farms and this was way out in the desert) so now I was 20 over. Cop was in an all black uniform on a blacked out motorcycle (super stealth nothing reflective) and hiding in the bushes. I was probably the only car down that road in the last hour so yeah. I earned that ticket. He was super cool too. Gave me 10 over instead of the full 20 (felony stop). He told me keep it to 10 over and we wont have this conversation again.
 

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The mayor of a suburb near Cleveland was on the radio....the city is know for it's speed trap on I-90 an their use of speed radar unmanned machines. In general I'm against the use of revenue machines like this BUT he made a solid defense of it's use...He said the Ohio Highway Patrol set the alert on their radar to go off at 14 mph over the posted speed limit so their machine doesn't trigger a photo ticket unless you're doing at least 14 mph over the posted speed limit. IMO that's fair...in normal, moderate traffic 10-12 mph over is generally safe. If you're cutting in an out of lanes an traffic an cutting it close I can see 10 over getting you a ticket.
 


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Your mileage may vary but banning any special event traffic or odd circumstances, in AZ they let you get away with 10 over.
They make enough with all the red light cameras at the intersections. Do not run a yellow in Arizona.
 

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I personally go 5 over if I’m by myself on main roads or the interstate otherwise with the flow in a safe manner. In neighborhoods, it’s the speed limit at the most - his is a hard rule for me. When I see someone tearing it up through the neighborhood, I feel like looking at them like Clint Eastwood in Gran Torino. You know the scene :)

I’m far from an old man driver though. Mainly I love acceleration so I give it a little go-go juice up to my cruising speed. Anyway, I don’t do radar detectors because they tend to make me want to speed. I do use Waze so that I know if there are speed traps as I’m not a fan of those. Haven’t had a speeding ticket since 1995 and some of that is luck for those rare occasions I’d open it up in a rural area but most of it is being aware of things and not driving like I left the iron on all the time lol.
 

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They make enough with all the red light cameras at the intersections.


Do not run a yellow in Arizona.

I think that's a prerequisite here running yellow lights. I don't think I've ever NOT seen anyone stop for one. It's so bad in my area you really need to wait a few seconds after your light turns green because there's always someone going through in the other direction.
 

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I think that's a prerequisite here running yellow lights. I don't think I've ever NOT seen anyone stop for one. It's so bad in my area you really need to wait a few seconds after your light turns green because there's always someone going through in the other direction.
Must be just the Phoenix area. We visited friends there and were given a warning about them.

Ticket cameras are not allowed in Wisconsin. And yeah here they speed up when they see the yellow.
 

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I didn't know people still used these things.

They make enough with all the red light cameras at the intersections. Do not run a yellow in Arizona.
How exactly does one "run a yellow?"

It's perfectly legal to enter an intersection with a yellow signal. At least in every state I've ever driven it is.
 

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Ohh and OP, troubleshooting 101, if you think a new addition is causing a problem remove it and see if problem persists.
 

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I didn't know people still used these things.

How exactly does one "run a yellow?"

It's perfectly legal to enter an intersection with a yellow signal. At least in every state I've ever driven it is.
You are correct. It is legal to enter on Yellow.

However to maximize revenue a lot of these ticket cams will ticket you on yellow knowing you will just pay and not fight it. I had a red light ticket in Houston that I wanted to fight and they told me my court date was "During the week of X." I asked what day so I could take off work. The said they couldn't tell me because they weren't sure. Could be Monday or Friday or any day in between. I was going to have to miss a week of work and pay for down town parking for one to 5 days to contest the ticket. That is NOT due process to inconvenience the innocent until proven guilty like that. I paid the $80 and moved to Arizona.

Also they frequently cut the yellow time in half so while you may be use to having another 3 to 5 seconds to enter on yellow, these don't give you enough time - green yellow red in bam bam bam succession. I think that's entrapment.

Shenanigans like that are what has the citizenry up in arms about this because good people are getting tickets they shouldn't and people are slamming on the brakes at a yellow causing accidents that shouldn't have happened.
 

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You are correct. It is legal to enter on Yellow.

However to maximize revenue a lot of these ticket cams will ticket you on yellow knowing you will just pay and not fight it. I had a red light ticket in Houston that I wanted to fight and they told me my court date was "During the week of X." I asked what day so I could take off work. The said they couldn't tell me because they weren't sure. Could be Monday or Friday or any day in between. I was going to have to miss a week of work and pay for down town parking for one to 5 days to contest the ticket. That is NOT due process to inconvenience the innocent until proven guilty like that. I paid the $80 and moved to Arizona.

Also they frequently cut the yellow time in half so while you may be use to having another 3 to 5 seconds to enter on yellow, these don't give you enough time - green yellow red in bam bam bam succession. I think that's entrapment.

Shenanigans like that are what has the citizenry up in arms about this because good people are getting tickets they shouldn't and people are slamming on the brakes at a yellow causing accidents that shouldn't have happened.
I get all that. But "running a yellow" still makes no sense.

Incidentally in my state photo tickets are not reported to the DMV, cannot accrue points, and agencies cannot revoke or suspend licenses of those who don't pay them. Basically only idiots pay photo tickets in Colorado. Most of them have disappeared by now.
 

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I wish I had a dollar for every ticket I've written to people with radar detectors! Good luck, but knowledgeable cops laugh at radar detectors!
The last one I owned was in the late 80's for long highway road trips. Troopers using pulse, pacing, laser and ariel clocking to my knowledge cant be detected by any of the gizmos...?
 

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Your mileage may vary but banning any special event traffic or odd circumstances, in AZ they let you get away with 10 over.

If you think about it, on Surface-Streets, that's 55 in a 45 - PLENTY FAST ENOUGH. If you are on our freeways that's 85 in a 75 - Again Plenty Fast.

At speeds above 85/90 with the improvements in police radar technology, by the time you start to get a blip, can you really slow down in time without being "that guy" that all the sudden goes ass up in the left lane as you top a hill?

I'd rather spend that dough (and I did) on a dash cam. I'm far more at risk of some one doing some stupid shizz in front of me than getting a ticket.

My only ticket in the last 20 years was in a Zero Tolerance Drive Hammered Get Nailed Holiday Safety Corridor at 3:30 AM. They even had the big yellow highway signs that you can change the words on that told me so - I was warned ahead of time. I was driving to work and had come out of a 45 zone doing 55 (10 over) and was sick as a dog on 9 kinds of cold medication and just trying to get to work so I could go home and die. The 45 zone dropped into a 35 "Residential" Zone (yet oddly there were no houses, only farms and this was way out in the desert) so now I was 20 over. Cop was in an all black uniform on a blacked out motorcycle (super stealth nothing reflective) and hiding in the bushes. I was probably the only car down that road in the last hour so yeah. I earned that ticket. He was super cool too. Gave me 10 over instead of the full 20 (felony stop). He told me keep it to 10 over and we wont have this conversation again.
similar story, about 6 years ago I was working had a box of chisels, knives saw blades to get to 'my guy' for sharpening out in the sticks/farm country middle of nowhere. My son was in the back sleeping from helping me all day. There was literally no one on the road, I was on a county road and opened the HEMI up on the Ram and was doing 80-85 ish in a straight arrow road and crested a hill and POOF! there was one of Sycamore Counties Finest Deputies!
I kinda laughed b/c there was gonna be no way outta this one so I just pulled over before he even put his cruiser in drive!
He wanders over and said if I was going any faster he probably would not have seen me, we both laughed and he saw my son sleeping like a log and asked if there was a medical emergency, then he asked what his momma would say if she knew I was hauling ass with her 'baby' in the back. I said she'd probably give me a dirty look, he asked me about my vet plates and what I did in the USAF. We shot the shit a bit and he said look, I'm not going to write it up at 25-30 over. He wrote me for 10 over and like you said keep it below 10 over and no worries.
that was my last ticket, though I will admit I probably get pulled over about once a year on average.
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