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I'm still waiting for this to happen.

In 1954, the Atomic Energy Commission chairman predicted that within 15 years nuclear power would make electricity “too cheap to meter.”
little did they realize that they had sown the seeds of demise by their own children...
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My first step away from ICE is probably going to be this:
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Sur Ron X Dirt Bike. 40 miles range in Eco mode, and about 25-30 if driven balls to the wall. Top speed about 50, and has enough power to make it up reasonable inclined hills. It's kind of a mutation - not quite an E-bike but not quite a full electric dirt bike either. It's made up of half custom motorcycle parts and half beefy downhill mountain bike parts. Reasonable price: $3800, Fun: off the charts. Has a pedal option so if you run out of juice you can still get home.
 

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My first step away from ICE is probably going to be this:
sur-ron-colorado-header.jpg

Sur Ron X Dirt Bike. 40 miles range in Eco mode, and about 25-30 if driven balls to the wall. Top speed about 50, and has enough power to make it up reasonable inclined hills. It's kind of a mutation - not quite an E-bike but not quite a full electric dirt bike either. It's made up of half custom motorcycle parts and half beefy downhill mountain bike parts. Reasonable price: $3800, Fun: off the charts. Has a pedal option so if you run out of juice you can still get home.
This is pretty awesome looking. I've had 2 different e-bikes on my radar for trailing and hunting

The 1st is the Ranger e-bike from QuietKat, mainly bc of the name but also because it's a very capable machine
https://quietkat.com/product/2020-ranger/

The newest one I've learned about is a Grunt Volcon. looks to be alot more rugged
https://volcon.com/grunt/
 
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This is pretty awesome looking. I've had 2 different e-bikes on my radar for trailing and hunting

The 1st is the Ranger e-bike from QuietKat, mainly bc of the name but also because it's a very capable machine
https://quietkat.com/product/2020-ranger/

The newest one I've learned about is a Grunt Volcon. looks to be alot more rugged
https://volcon.com/grunt/
That second one looks like the Honda’s we use to use back in the 70’s. For the price you could use one of them and make it electric for like 2K
 


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So many countries main lifeblood is oil exports... you will see many different countries react differently to this change in the demand for oils...
 

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My point is that they should’ve been allowed to fail as the free market determined. Just as any other business would’ve, and is, allowed to fail (especially during COVID).
Yes they should have. Very much so. But then we are dealing with the same breed of tech bullies who convinced Uncle Sam that mercury-filled bulbs were better for the environment than good old fashioned incandescents.
 

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Considering states are doing rolling blackouts just because everyone is running their air conditioners I think we have a long way to go before we will have all electric cars.
It isn't just demand - I was told that our power company will be doing rolling blackouts during wildfire season because downed power lines were the cause of many wildfires and power companies are getting sued because they didn't shut off the lines during periods of high danger.

I'm glad I got a generator, although it won't run our A/C which is becoming increasingly important to have.....
 

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They better have a plan to overhaul the whole countries electrical grid first. Just a look back at CA this past summer where they had more rolling blackouts and were telling people to shut their ac and high consumption appliances off during peak hours. Now picture the whole whole country mimicking this? :facepalm:


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Reality is not their concern-virtue signaling is.
 

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It isn't just demand - I was told that our power company will be doing rolling blackouts during wildfire season because downed power lines were the cause of many wildfires and power companies are getting sued because they didn't shut off the lines during periods of high danger.

I'm glad I got a generator, although it won't run our A/C which is becoming increasingly important to have.....
Consider California's ban on small gas engines (generator s) as an example of idiot governance.

I'm all for a diverse energy grid but choking out ubiquitous, cost effective and easily distributed sources through legislation vs. free market actions is criminal.

There's hope for future hydrogen combustion I hope.
 

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General Motors to stop producing gasoline and diesel cars by 2035


https://mol.im/a/9198789
Yep. And this fairy tale will last as long as GM can soak its car buyers with added fees for "research" into something that will not be remotely practical in my lifetime. GM knows exactly how gullible its customers are. I know because I used to be one of them until the Saturn VTI disaster.
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