GM is pulling the plug on gas and diesel by 2035

[Trigganometry]

General Motors to stop producing gasoline and diesel cars by 2035


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[jsphlynch]

The Daily Mail site sure is obnoxious. I found the presser straight from GM here.

The press release refers to "an aspiration to eliminate tailpipe emissions from new light-duty vehicles by 2035." Noteworthy that they refer to it as an "aspiration" and not a plan.

 

[AzScorpion]

General Motors to stop producing gasoline and diesel cars by 2035


https://mol.im/a/9198789

They better have a plan to overhaul the whole countries electrical grid first. Just a look back at CA this past summer where they had more rolling blackouts and were telling people to shut their ac and high consumption appliances off during peak hours. Now picture the whole whole country mimicking this?

 

[FoD]

They better have a plan to overhaul the whole countries electrical grid first. Just a look back at CA this past summer where they had more rolling blackouts and were telling people to shut their ac and high consumption appliances off during peak hours. Now picture the whole whole country mimicking this?

That should be in about 45 days if current trends hold...

 

[Leftcoast]

I seldom rely on weather reports 3 weeks out or press releases looking out 14 years. They will make ICE vehicles as long as they're legal and profitable. IMO they are just jumping on the Biden "kill the oil industry" bandwagon.

 

[2020FRL]

Add to the overloads now ... about 300 million electric cars charging with no fossil fuel generating power

 

[slowmachine]

The Daily Mail site sure is obnoxious. I found the presser straight from GM here.

The press release refers to "an aspiration to eliminate tailpipe emissions from new light-duty vehicles by 2035." Noteworthy that they refer to it as an "aspiration" and not a plan.

I suspect that "aspiration" is probably accurate. They have a long time, and many opportunities to change their plans. An enormous amount of standardized charging infrastructure needs to be built to enable the electric transition on a national scale, and battery technology must advance rapidly to support cold-weather practicality. I'd like my next car to be pure electric, so I'm really hoping to see something more than luxurious third-car tax credits for the wealthy in the next four years.

 

[txquailguy]

I seldom rely on weather reports 3 weeks out or press releases looking out 14 years. They will make ICE vehicles as long as they're legal and profitable. IMO they are just jumping on the Biden "kill the oil industry" bandwagon.

Leave my gasoline ALONE JOE!
Such a uniter....lol

 

[txquailguy]

Good on GM for at least making an attempt and showing their desire. Sounds like a good plan as long as there's concurrent innovation/effort put into renewable energy production. Solar, wind, hydro, all that stuff. Because otherwise, like a lot of you anti-electric folks argue, it's just pushing the environmental impact down, or up depending on your perspective, the line.

I'm all for replacing/getting rid of the IC engine. A majority of people who drive travel less than 200-300 miles in day, including myself. Usually way less. Not everyone obviously, but most. And that is well within the range of current day electric vehicles. Every time I think about how much fuel I'm wasting, and hydrocarbons I'm producing, just on my drive back and forth to work everyday it hurts. I would Maybe I should invest in an electric motorcycle for summer commuting.

The other thing that needs to be done is make electric cars more affordable. Obviously the current prices are as a result of the cost of batteries. But since electric tech has been exponentially increasing in capability and decreasing in cost, in 14 years I have no doubt it'll be more available to the masses and the normals like me.

I'm not anti-electric at all.....most of the electric cars are SILLY fast! I am against breaking the oil and gas industry when that is how we power EVERYTHING in this Country at this point. Especially with the events that have transpired over the last year....we need stability and cheap energy to get us over this crisis. Then we can work towards achieving the green infrastructure that will need to be built to get us to the next era of power. All this green energy push does at this point is put the cost of mobility on the backs of the working people....not cool at all!
Also...it will be a sad day when you cannot feel/hear the vibration/sound of your engine

 

[wanted33]

But, if your kids live across country how long will it take you to get there? If GM wants to go all electric I wish them well. I'm sure the reason they hedged their bet is because of questions like mine. With the government once again getting the cart before the horse infrastructure will surely not keep up as the technology just isn't up to the task right now.

 

[Phessor]

I currently work for one of those evil fossil fuel electric generating company's. And with my job, I have visibility of EVERY mega watt of power produced east of the continental divide.
I am not going to go into who is right and who is wrong, or what can or cannot be done to fix "climate change, " (by the way, it was 2° F yesterday morning in Arizona) but I can tell you that without all of these evil fossil fuels producing electric power, green energy CANNOT maintain the current power demands on the left coasts power grid.
Now add a crap load of electric vehicles that will need to be charged, electric heating for homes and businesses, (remember, there will be no propane or natural gas to heat your homes ?) things are going to get very hard. Now add to the issue of no trains, no over the road trucking, no planes, how are we going to get our goods delivered to us, in a Conestoga wagon?
I am also a veteran, EVERY piece of military ground equipment runs on evil fossil fuels, I guess we won't need the armed forces to defend us, because they won't be able to move their equipment.
A green energy power infrastructure is not currently available, and not for the foreseeable near future. So you all better start buying candles if you want to read after the sun goes down.

And I will be out looking for another job...

 

[Phessor]

Good on GM for at least making an attempt and showing their desire. Sounds like a good plan as long as there's concurrent innovation/effort put into renewable energy production. Solar, wind, hydro, all that stuff. Because otherwise, like a lot of you anti-electric folks argue, it's just pushing the environmental impact down, or up depending on your perspective, the line.

I'm all for replacing/getting rid of the IC engine. A majority of people who drive travel less than 200-300 miles in day, including myself. Usually way less. Not everyone obviously, but most. And that is well within the range of current day electric vehicles. Every time I think about how much fuel I'm wasting, and hydrocarbons I'm producing, just on my drive back and forth to work everyday it hurts. I would Maybe I should invest in an electric motorcycle for summer commuting.

The other thing that needs to be done is make electric cars more affordable. Obviously the current prices are as a result of the cost of batteries. But since electric tech has been exponentially increasing in capability and decreasing in cost, in 14 years I have no doubt it'll be more available to the masses and the normals like me.

I am not against electric vehicles, and like you, I feel they are over priced. Here is a picture of a section of the road I take to work each day. And while it may not a 200-300 mile commute, it is a little rougher than most people are used too.

 

[Phessor]

Right now, using something like the Tesla supercharging system, it'll take maybe 40% longer it looks like. In 14 years, when they are hoping to make this a full fledged reality, who knows. At the rate the technology is changing and advancing, I wouldn't be surprised if it was at least able to compete.

I'll pass!

 

[Phessor]

I'll pass!

And one more thing, there is a charging station out here that has a HUGE diesel generator for a backup, kind of hypocritical.

 

[AzScorpion]

I'll pass!

Well that's surely an accident waiting to happen. lol

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