Wheeler’s Superbump Stops Argument

[ctechbob]

They are the same suspension design.
The only issue that could arise is bottoming out my shock because of the shorter (and better material) bump stop. Good thing I took measurements.

Thanks for the advice. Driving a Prius is a compliment in this economy.

No commission, just trying to help people out! People like you make me think twice about posting my ideas on this forum. Perhaps why it has such a bad wrap. We have people in here nitpicking instead of saying, “great, how’s the ride on the shorter bumps vs the tremor vs the stock?” Now people in trying to help get to read your garbage theory while driving a stock stx to and from the grocery store.

Cool, name calling, I like it.

Not stock there chief. I do more with my Ranger than most people do with their F250's and the suspension has been upgraded to fit my needs.

Again, better material does not change the laws of physics. One more time. The material HAS TO BE HARDER to stop the axle from hitting hard parts. There's no other way. So you are in for a harder 'BUMP' when the axle contacts the stop. (With stock springs) If you upgrade your springs it will be slightly different.

If it isn't harder, then the axle will blow through the stop and you'll have metal on metal.

You can argue it all you want, and you'll be wrong.

You go through a sharp corner with the truck rolled over and hit a bump and that axle smashes that harder stop, or blows through the stop and hits metal, you will upset the truck and probably end up in the weeds.

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[Taco Transplant]

Cool, name calling, I like it.

Not stock there chief. I do more with my Ranger than most people do with their F250's and the suspension has been upgraded to fit my needs.

Again, better material does not change the laws of physics. One more time. The material HAS TO BE HARDER to stop the axle from hitting hard parts. There's no other way. So you are in for a harder 'BUMP' when the axle contacts the stop. (With stock springs) If you upgrade your springs it will be slightly different.

If it isn't harder, then the axle will blow through the stop and you'll have metal on metal.

You can argue it all you want, and you'll be wrong.

You go through a sharp corner with the truck rolled over and hit a bump and that axle smashes that harder stop, or blows through the stop and hits metal, you will upset the truck and probably end up in the weeds.

Go to bed sir. Dream about being better.

 

[ctechbob]

This can go wrong in so many ways
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Lol, 'longer and softer', yea you don't want that in certain 'situations'.

 

[ctechbob]

Go to bed sir. Dream about being better.

You forgot 'boomer'.

And I'm here all night.

 

[Racket]

Different strokes for different folks. I can totally see the point of larger bump stops for towing to help your leaf springs and shocks (example: airbags).

The SumoSprings are (according to the manufacturer) supposed to emulate airbags so for us that tow they make sense.

For off-road I read lots of discussion around different focus on suspension components including springs and lift. Bigger wheels as well.

 

[Racket]

Lol, 'longer and softer', yea you don't want that in certain 'situations'.

Obligatory 'that's what she said' here ?

 

[LawnMM]

 

[Grumpaw]

Go to bed sir. Dream about being better.

Before you keep a post going by trashing the responses, be aware many of us use the Sumo bump stops cause ....
They work....
They are listed and made for each vehicle application....
They are a proven design.

The stops your so highly recommending are made for a Toyotas..... there is a big difference between the spacing of the Toyo frame/spring as opposed to the Ranger. Just a simple visual will prove it.....so, the shorter bumps stop for the Toyo won't work correctly.
I have the Sumos cause THEY WORK when I'm towing....I need the frame to contact the bump stop in the correct manner to cushion the ride.....a shorter stop WILL NOT WORK PROPERLY !!!!!!!
Keep the Toyo parts for use on your Toyo.....they are not made or designed for the Ford, or the Chebbie, or the Ram....ect ect ect.

 

[DukeCanBuildit]

Yep, exactly what I pulled off my Tacoma when I replaced them with the wheelers super bumps. Thanks for reminding me of what they look like.

I put these same bumps on my Tacoma, loved how they performed. They are not a harsh bump, but a firm bump. They let your suspension do what the suspension is designed to do: articulate.
I got my ranger and said “wow, this thing is great on the road, but rides like a Prius (you would know) offroad.”
After this, I got some tremor take offs. Worked great. However, the stock bump stops sucked balls (see above parentheses). So I got some tremor bump stops and installed them. I thought, wow these are better, but still are a little harsh. Then today I said, “well, I’ll just get what I like and know.” I put them on, drove around, and wow, I’m now pleased with my rear suspension.
Then I decided, hey there are only like two bumpstop options for these rangers, and this is a great option. I posted it wanting to help others out by giving another proven option (see any Toyota forum) and now I’m dealing with you!!!
Now you’re the guy with thoughts and opinions, and I’m the guy that gets things done. I know how each bump stop that you speak of, feels. Yet you still sit her and tell me you know better than me.
Go talk about politics you clown.

Clown?

WOW! Seriously? That’s not what this forum is all about. Maybe they’ll welcome you back on Tacoma World after the moderators stumble across this thread.

 

[Grumpaw]

Clown?

WOW! Seriously? That’s not what this forum is all about. Maybe they’ll welcome you back on Tacoma World after the moderators stumble across this thread.

Duke....you mean this isn't a current photo of you ???

 

[Chris M]

Clowns?

We all float down here....

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[RedlandRanger]

Clown?

WOW! Seriously? That’s not what this forum is all about. Maybe they’ll welcome you back on Tacoma World after the moderators stumble across this thread.

Yeah, I was going to post something. The name calling needs to stop - this is not Tacoma World and it will not be tolerated.

This is a discussion forum and respectful discussion is appropriate. Name calling is not.

 

[Taco Transplant]

You forgot 'boomer'.

And I'm here all night.

The SumoSprings are (according to the manufacturer) supposed to emulate airbags so for us that tow they make sense.

For off-road I read lots of discussion around different focus on suspension components including springs and lift. Bigger wheels as well.

Before you keep a post going by trashing the responses, be aware many of us use the Sumo bump stops cause ....
They work....
They are listed and made for each vehicle application....
They are a proven design.

The stops your so highly recommending are made for a Toyotas..... there is a big difference between the spacing of the Toyo frame/spring as opposed to the Ranger. Just a simple visual will prove it.....so, the shorter bumps stop for the Toyo won't work correctly.
I have the Sumos cause THEY WORK when I'm towing....I need the frame to contact the bump stop in the correct manner to cushion the ride.....a shorter stop WILL NOT WORK PROPERLY !!!!!!!
Keep the Toyo parts for use on your Toyo.....they are not made or designed for the Ford, or the Chebbie, or the Ram....ect ect ect.

I am not trashing responses.
Sumos are awesome.
Can we use raptor bumpstops on our trucks? Yes. Take a look at those dimensions.
These bumpstops still maintain proper bottom out protection for the shock.

 

[DukeCanBuildit]

Duke....you mean this isn't a current photo of you ???

Close…

 

[Taco Transplant]

Just drove my truck. It fell apart. Bolts everywhere. Warrantee gone.
Do not install these bumpstops. They are a part made for Toyotas.

Kidding.
Been playing with it a lot and haven’t found any downsides. More useable leaf spring before contact is made. Loaded about 10 cases of beer in the bed and hit some hefty bumps faster than I would have liked to see if I would “end up in the weeds”. Nope. These are softer and more compliant than stock. Don’t get me wrong, you feel when you hit the stop, as you should. However, the material is way more compliment yet supportive. You don’t get a harsh hit like the stock stops that have you say, “ahhh my kidney.”
After I drank all the beer, the ride was even better. Kidding again.
Unloaded the bed so I just had my shell. Drove even faster through some small whoops. Continuous cycle of the suspension and continuous contact with the bumps, no bucking of the rear end and certainly smoother. Better yet, I have about 1.5-2 more inches before my shock bottoms. Go me.

Now I’m clearly no profession, I just tune, rebuild, and sale suspension for other people’s money. I will say that these would be not good for towing with a high tongue weight. You would have a pretty significant amount of squat and your leaf springs may shed some tears. Would it work? Yep. Would it be comfortable? Probably not.

Something else to note: Raptor bump stops also work great on our setups. I was torn between those and the superbumps. Although, the Raptor bump stops (I believe they are timbren) are shorter. These are the bumps sold with a very prestigious set of leaf springs. I wanted a bit more contact and a slower ramp up, so I went with the superbumps.

I’ll keep proving people wrong with updates on the terrible performance of these crappy Toyota bumpstops.

‘Merica

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