What is with the silly Diesel Owners out there?!

[Frenchy]

I had a diesel "defend his manhood" I guess today. There's a light that holds for a long time, it has two lanes that turn onto the onramp for the freeway. I always take the shorter line to make sure I get through the light then I don't care where I merge into the line for the onramp, I just wait my turn to merge in. Today a F350 was on the inside an the line had about ten cars so I took the outside which was empty an passed the cars in the left an made my turn. The 350 wasn't accelerating hard an I merged into the lane an he was a good 10 car lengths back. I just figured he was taking it easy. When we got close to the highway he floors it, shoots across the white line between the freeway lane an the onramp an across the first lane of traffic into the outside lane an took off. He slowed down to the speed limit because I stayed the same distance behind.

Around here aggressive drivers can be found in any vehicle type, but big trucks an full size suv's seem to dominate. I try not to push it because I'm driving a work car an getting paid by the hour, but I will take the shorter line if there's multiple lanes at a light.

I get what you mean there!!

I always try to go for what makes sense when there are multiple drivers in one lane and none in the other(and both going the same direction). I also make sure that if I'm going to pass that it's worth the effort.

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[Jason B]

There are plenty of a-hole drivers out there. Once at a red light, as soon as the crossing traffic light turned red, and before our light turned green, the guy behind started blowing his horn for me to go.
It was about that time my almost brand-new truck "stalled and die", but mysteriously recovered just as our light was turning yellow.

 

[Cmar]

Wow this would cause trouble over here, where virtually ALL trucks big and small are diesel.
I thinks this is due to a lot of our industry is mining or agriculture based, and a lot of interstate transport is mostly truck rather than rail.
In many far western rural areas, the only fuel you can buy is diesel, petrol (gasoline) may, or may not, be available and if it is, it will probably be the crappy lowest 91 RON grade. Also generally, diesel is cheaper than petrol over here.

You can't buy a new petrol truck over here if you tried, unless you buy a (RHD converted) RAM, Chevvy or F150, at vast cost, and even then people generally go for the diesel versions.
GM, Toyota and Nissan stopped making them in the late 1980's / early 90's. Mitsubishi wandered on on for a few more years, but also stopped around early 2,000's Ford and VW tried with the first release of the 5G Ranger and the first Amorok but they just didn't sell, and were thus discontinued. Maybe if Ford had used the Ecoboost things might have been different but it was a N/A petrol engine- I don't think the Ecoboost was released at that stage.

The rolling coal thing never caught on here - thankfully, even amongst those people who drive trucks named after a sheep.

You do see some people with exhausts like stormwater drains, mostly on Toyota 70 series trucks with the single turbo 4.5 V8 diesel - I guess they feel thay have to do something because the 3.2 diesel in my ranger actually turns out only slightly less power, and more torque than their boat anchor.
I don't think they understand that a rule of diminishing returns applies to exhaust pipes.

The new 6G Ranger Raptor is the first opportunity here to buy a new petrol pickup in a long time (the previous Raptor was diesel only) but only on the Raptor, and at an eye watering price, so it will never sell in large volumes, even though by all accounts it's a very nice truck.

 

[got3fords]

There are plenty of a-hole drivers out there. Once at a red light, as soon as the crossing traffic light turned red, and before our light turned green, the guy behind started blowing his horn for me to go.
It was about that time my almost brand-new truck "stalled and die", but mysteriously recovered just as our light was turning yellow.

Beautiful!

 

[Kristina]

Idk, @Kristina seems pretty combative right now and drives a diesel truck. Coincidence? ?
Don't go all diesel truck owner on me now.

That means getting a Raptor and quitting diesel truck gets me to the “good guys side” and will change my behavior to better, right? ?
Pretty combative? Keep your talk about diesel truck owners based on facts and polite towards everyone and we’re fine. Don’t forget you have no right to judge the diesel truck drivers who have not done anything to you so negative talk in general is not ok.
Conflicts and stupid actions in traffic happen with any kind of drivers.
The most important is to make it back home alive and healthy.

Seems EU and States understand things really differently ?

 

[KJRR]

That means getting a Raptor and quitting diesel truck gets me to the “good guys side” and will change my behavior to better, right? ?
Pretty combative? Keep your talk about diesel truck owners based on facts and polite towards everyone and we’re fine. Don’t forget you have no right to judge the diesel truck drivers who have not done anything to you so negative talk in general is not ok.
Conflicts and stupid actions in traffic happen with any kind of drivers.
The most important is to make it back home alive and healthy.

Seems EU and States understand things really differently ?

Yes, a Raptor makes it all better.
I am just joking and appreciate your views. It's always good to have different perspectives even if we don't agree all the time. And yes, regardless of what a person drives, there are some not so nice people, it's not limited to a brand or type of engine. We can generalize though.
As far as judging, my father would always tell me he is "judge, jury and executioner." Sometimes "judging" a situation allows you to get back home alive and healthy.
Keep on sharing your viewpoints!

 

[Big Blue]

I'm siding with Kristina, seems like it was because you said something to his kid, not that he drove a diesel. And I know how belligerent people get when you say something to their kids, especially when you try to correct them, even when it is warranted. Go to a little league game. You'll see.

I tend to agree. Ignoring the side conversations about "coal rolling", there is a lot of details and inferring going on with the original post. First Frenchy's original comment could have come across more as a scolding than a comment. Being that he probably had to avoid hitting the boy, or at least reacted to him. The incident in the restaurant could be caused by any number of causes, him feeling you yelled at his son, is just one. The insident on the road later also could have had many other reasons other than anger. And, from the given description of the event we don't even know if the truck driver was the father. That fact was not explicitly stated.

I do agree there is too much aggressive driving out there, and it is not limited to any one specific vehicle type. It is a people problem not a vehicle problem. It just happens that those driving large, jacked up, modified diesels tend to be more visible on the road. It does seem to be unfair to label an entire vehicle group by a small sub-set of owners, who for what ever reason need to do stupid things to and with their vehicle of choice.

(Political comment warning) With all the current issues going on and an election year coming up. I do not see this aggression issue getting any better. Probably getting worse. Our nation is so divided with no middle ground that I fear we may end up in a civil war.

 

[Frenchy]

I tend to agree. Ignoring the side conversations about "coal rolling", there is a lot of details and inferring going on with the original post. First Frenchy's original comment could have come across more as a scolding than a comment. Being that he probably had to avoid hitting the boy, or at least reacted to him. The incident in the restaurant could be caused by any number of causes, him feeling you yelled at his son, is just one. The insident on the road later also could have had many other reasons other than anger. And, from the given description of the event we don't even know if the truck driver was the father. That fact was not explicitly stated.

I do agree there is too much aggressive driving out there, and it is not limited to any one specific vehicle type. It is a people problem not a vehicle problem. It just happens that those driving large, jacked up, modified diesels tend to be more visible on the road. It does seem to be unfair to label an entire vehicle group by a small sub-set of owners, who for what ever reason need to do stupid things to and with their vehicle of choice.

(Political comment warning) With all the current issues going on and an election year coming up. I do not see this aggression issue getting any better. Probably getting worse. Our nation is so divided with no middle ground that I fear we may end up in a civil war.

Thanks to the tone of my voice(which I did watch) it came across more of a request to be careful. Did the Father think it came across as scolding? Very possible since he seemed to get real defensive right away. Did I have to swerve to miss the kid? Thankfully no because I was going slow enough and paying attention(imagine if I wasn't). How do I know it was the Father? If you were there you would be able to tell right away. It was just that obvious.

That said he still fit the description of what my thread title states. You find them all over here in the states. Its only a matter of time for when you run into one(and unfortunately that time isn't much for myself).

 

[Big Blue]

Thanks to the tone of my voice(which I did watch) it came across more of a request to be careful. Did the Father think it came across as scolding? Very possible since he seemed to get real defensive right away. Did I have to swerve to miss the kid? Thankfully no because I was going slow enough and paying attention(imagine if I wasn't). How do I know it was the Father? If you were there you would be able to tell right away. It was just that obvious.

That said he still fit the description of what my thread title states. You find them all over here in the states. Its only a matter of time for when you run into one(and unfortunately that time isn't much for myself).

So you are absolutely positive it was the father that pulled up next to you in the truck, fine. It is still a rather broad stretch to decide his action had anything to do with the fact that he drives a certain brand of diesel truck. If he took offense that you spoke to his son in, what he felt, an improper way. Maybe that was just the latest in a bad day.

Unfortunately the fact that you took this situation to be the result of him driving a diesel truck, along with the fact you call them "silly diesel owners", speaks more to your pre-conceived notions than anything else. If this offends you I am sorry.

 

[Frenchy]

So you are absolutely positive it was the father that pulled up next to you in the truck, fine. It is still a rather broad stretch to decide his action had anything to do with the fact that he drives a certain brand of diesel truck. If he took offense that you spoke to his son in, what he felt, an improper way. Maybe that was just the latest in a bad day.

Unfortunately the fact that you took this situation to be the result of him driving a diesel truck, along with the fact you call them "silly diesel owners", speaks more to your pre-conceived notions than anything else. If this offends you I am sorry.

Take it how you want. Be aware that I have delt with plenty of individuals that own Diesel Trucks(not necessarily a particular brand BTW) that have acted in similar ways. I'm sure you have seen the same kind of stuff where you are

 

[Big Blue]

Take it how you want. Be aware that I have delt with plenty of individuals that own Diesel Trucks(not necessarily a particular brand BTW) that have acted in similar ways. I'm sure you have seen the same kind of stuff where you are

My final post on this!
Yes I have seen similar behavior by me. But it is by no means limited to drivers of diesel trucks and it is not indemic of all drivers of diesel trucks. Your statements seem to indicate you hold the same opinion of all drivers of diesel trucks.

 

[ppfd]

My GFs son has had to complete POS ford diesel pickups. First one rotted out, huge 800 pound bumper on it. Leaked enough oil to fill 10 other cars. He gets rid of this one because he can afford to drive it
No he has another one! Its more of a "cool" factor with these country kids. They do nothing with them other than drive them around.
And then you dipshits that put these giant garbage can sized "stacks" in the bed.
The dorkier the truck the small the d*&k

I was trying to pass some hippy in a Honda or some little car. He turned his dash camera around I guess to film me and my bad ass tremor, he was in such awe.
Or then you have the slow person and you pass them and then they drive up your ass for a few miles and then drop back like 5 miles.
And theres always the person on the highway. You pass them and then they speed up and pass you doing 90.
Why not just do the damn speed limit to began with.

 

[Langwilliams]

My GFs son has had to complete POS ford diesel pickups.

This reminded me of my old neighbor. One of the reasons I sold my cheap convenient condo an bought a house was to escape this guy an his step son parking 4 door F350's with 8 ft boxes in our little condo parking lot. His first truck was an F250 with a cummins conversion an god knows what transmission. The brakes failed when his wife was driving it an it was totaled. He replaced it with a surprisingly for Ohio rust free King Ranch f350 on 22's. Both his an his step son's were lifted on 35's (not sure about the 22's though but pretty tall). I got a door ding in the bed of my ranger up near the bed rail I know it came from one of those trucks since they were the only ones that high. When diesel hit $5 a gallon here he picked up a beat up explorer to drive. His wife had a car an her son's GF was there a lot in her car so 5 of the parking spots were taken up for a 24 unit building my the one unit.

Maybe there is something going on with diesel drivers

 

[MountainGoat]

All I know is used diesel trucks are a good deal when the gas and diesel prices go through the roof. Likewise you can get a Prius for a song when they are low. I kinda want one of those big Ford Excursions. Tow the Prius around with it.

 

[Kristina]

…

Maybe there is something going on with diesel drivers

Now explain what’s exactly wrong with me?
I am a diesel driver here. You say diesel drivers you also mean me.

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