Saw this on the road today.

[wanted33]

I know there's a niche for these but being a "truck guy" they're just not for me. I (like you) just cant call these a truck. lol I just have flashbacks of these. ?

Wow, a Brat. My Dad bought one of those in '79. It was fun to drive, and tough as nails. It wouldn't haul a loaf of bread, but it would get through the rough if the holes weren't too deep.

As far as the Maverick, and Santa Cruz go I see them as just a different kind of Ridgeline. Until I see one of either on a work site I also refuse to call them a truck. However, I expect Ford and Hyundai will sell a ton of them. They will make good weekend warriors for city dwellers, and suburbanites that need to make a run for plants at their local Lowes/Home Depot.

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[wanted33]

Why can no one produce a truck without embossing the model name in huge letters across the tailgate now? It was novel when it was just one or two models out there but now it's anything with a bed.

Phil, it reminds me of the old saying "monkey see, monkey do". I don't know who started it, but all the others followed right along.

 

[D Fresh]

agreed! I kinda wish my new ranger didnt say ranger on the tailgate... i know that may get me some hate.

If I could get rid of the "RANGER" and Blue Oval on the grill, the "RANGER" and "LARIAT" on the fender vents, and the "RANGER" embossed on the tailgate, leaving only the Blue Oval on the rear I'd be very happy.

But I prefer a clean look, I can do without all the branding.

These little Hyundais are starting to pile up at the dealerships I drive by. Wonder if the novelty is wearing off a bit?

 

[mtbikernate]

What's with all the ugly vehicles hitting the market? I don't like the Maverick front end (or the new Ranger, for that matter). I'm not a fan of this one, either, but it's marginally better than those.

And I also have a hard time with any center stack that lacks physical buttons and knobs. That tactile feedback is so important.

 

[rydfree]

I know there's a niche for these but being a "truck guy" they're just not for me. I (like you) just cant call these a truck. lol I just have flashbacks of these. ?

I hated those Brats . One pulled out in front of me in '88 and totaled my '75 TA that I had just painted Corvette Firethorn Red . The impact slung two kids over the side that were in the bed seats on to the hwy and I just knew I had killed them . Luckily they got up quickly and dusted it off . The mom was hysterical and couldn't even get out of the car .

I loved that car .

 

[Megawatt]

That thing is an eye sore if you ask me. To each their own I guess

Start packing your visine to get ready for sore eyes. Those things are gonna sell. Today’s powderpuff, inclusion, don’t offend etc are gonna love it.

 

[AzScorpion]

I hated those Brats . One pulled out in front of me in '88 and totaled my '75 TA that I had just painted Corvette Firethorn Red . The impact slung two kids over the side that were in the bed seats on to the hwy and I just knew I had killed them . Luckily they got up quickly and dusted it off . The mom was hysterical and couldn't even get out of the car .

I loved that car .

Wow Benny thank God the kids were alright that must of been a scary situation. Sorry to hear about your T/A looks like it was a beauty! ?

 

[puckdodger]

The rear Death Seats, I mean "Sport" seats, were a way for Subaru to avoid the Chicken Tax.

I'm curious, what's the Chicken Tax?

 

[Dr. Zaius]

...

These little Hyundais are starting to pile up at the dealerships I drive by. Wonder if the novelty is wearing off a bit?

Now that all the Gotta Have It Firsts have gotten theirs, the sales have cooled WAY off. The Maverick is handily beating it.

Like I mentioned in another thread, some of the Hyundai dealers in my area have gone from a $5k+ (one dealer was $20k ) markup to a $1k discount.

I expect some bargains on them soon.

As a side note, the Carmax offer on my truck had gone down by $2k, but this week it went back up by $1k, so not the same direction as the Santa Cruz

I'm curious, what's the Chicken Tax?

Chicken Tax

 

[AzScorpion]

I'm curious, what's the Chicken Tax?

I've never heard of this either so here's what I found


https://www.thoughtco.com/chicken-tax-4159747

• The “Chicken Tax” is a 25% tariff (tax) imposed on foreign-made light trucks and vans imported into the United States.
• The Chicken Tax was imposed by President Lyndon Johnson in 1963.
• The Chicken Tax was a response to a similar tariff imposed by West Germany and France on chicken meat imported from the United States.
• The Chicken Tax is intended to protect the U.S, automakers from foreign competition.
• Cold War tensions thwarted diplomatic attempts to prevent the Chicken Tax.
• Major automakers have used loopholes to circumvent the Chicken Tax.

 

[Dr. Zaius]

I've never heard of this either so here's what I found


https://www.thoughtco.com/chicken-tax-4159747

Subaru used the seats in the BRAT bed to call it a passenger car, thus avoiding the 25% Chicken Tax that was levied on light trucks.

 

[puckdodger]

Subaru used the seats in the BRAT bed to call it a passenger car, thus avoiding the 25% Chicken Tax that was levied on light trucks.

sneaky sneaky....that's definitely Brat-like behavior

 

[McLeadslinger]

They obviously aren’t getting feedback from buyers instead they just assume what looks good.

What's with all the ugly vehicles hitting the market? I don't like the Maverick front end (or the new Ranger, for that matter). I'm not a fan of this one, either, but it's marginally better than those.

And I also have a hard time with any center stack that lacks physical buttons and knobs. That tactile feedback is so important.

 

[OFC Ranger]

I too think the new 2022 Subaru Baja is not very good looking.

 

[chasvs]

Was on my way to Green Bay to pick my daughter up at the airport and passed this Santa Cruz on the highway. Not a bad looking little crossover, I refuse to call it a truck cuz it's actually an SUV with a little bed. ?

I do think Hyundai will sell a bunch of these as will Ford with the Maverick. Not everybody needs or want a full framed truck.

Sorry, but IMHO its Butt Ugly!

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