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Lowering the rear of my Tremor with Belltech shackles

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First, I'm a newbie to the Ranger lifestyle. I've just gotten a 2021 Tremor and just love the little truck...except for the ass-end being so high. I've read way too many discussions on here that the only way to lower it is to do the Belltech axle flip kit, or having the springs re arched.

Belltech says the kit will lower the rear 4 or 6 inches. I look at the kit and not only does it have replacement u-bolts and other hardware, but there's shackles too. No I'm going "Hmmm"? So I email Belltech and ask what's the shackles for if by flipping the spring on the differential, the result is 4" drop. They come back and tell me that I will lose 4" if all I do is flip. If I use the shackles in the kit, then the drop will be 4". I then ask if I can buy the shackles because all I want is 2" drop. I figure I can shim it up if it's too low, but if I flip the springs on the axle, I stuck with a 4" drop. They come back and say that the shackles will indeed drop the rear 2", but they don't sell the shackles separately.

I'm actually OK with buying the whole kit... if I get the ass-end lower.

My question to all is, if I do lower the rear end, will I need shorter shocks? I really don't want to raise the front any higher than it is. Anybody did this before

One last thing. When I look under the truck, there's more than just bump stops above the differential. There's an additional spring around it that looks to be about 6" tall. If I remove the spring, and put on a XLT bump stop, will the rear end go down without doing anything else?
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Buys most off-road capable 5g... Wants to lower it...

That's like buying your wife fake hooters just to file for divorce before they've even healed ??‍♀
I dont get it. Its not like anything is gained on the tremor except the better suspension…. Ill trade trucks with you, mine is lower already. And well broken in.
 

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The shackles on the belltech lowering kit are actually lift shackles. The axle flip with the OE shackles result in a 6" drop not a 4". The shackles provided with the kit lift the rear back for a 4" or 5" total drop.
 


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Lowering the rear isn't really a crime, he still gets the benefits of Fox shocks, driveshaft, interior, etc.

That said, I would consider a 1" front level over lowering the rear. Is there a reason you rather lower the rear? I understand there are a few good reasons to do so most may not consider.
 
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Lowering the rear isn't really a crime, he still gets the benefits of Fox shocks, driveshaft, interior, etc.

That said, I would consider a 1" front level over lowering the rear. Is there a reason you rather lower the rear? I understand there are a few good reasons to do so most may not consider.
I'd be willing to bet that the OP doesn't even wheel often OR hard enough (or at ALL) to benefit from anything tremor related... I'll go one step further in assuming that they're not gonna be happy when it comes time to have their shocks rebuilt either lol.. unless they're lucky enough to have a local place willing to do it in-house... Most aren't. Those threads are always entertaining.
 
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Hey Dereku and Blmpkn...what part of "First, I'm a newbie to the Ranger lifestyle" didn't you bother toread or understand? No need to insult me. You don't know me or what I actually want. I bought the Tremor because it was a deal I couldn't pass up...a lot better than the XLT available here I may be sorry I bought it in a few months, but I've only had the truck for less that a week. I also said I loved the truck, I just wasn't keen on the ass-up attitude of the truck. So, I'm going to ask you both, if you also liked the ass up look, why lift the front to level it? Give me a freaking break. And one last thing...I haven't had it long enough to do any "wheel often OR hard enough (or at ALL)" yet...but I will soon! If you 2 have nothing to add to the conversation, keep your idiotic comments to yourself please.

As to the Belltech kit, I specifically asked whomever was manning the email desk the other day, how much drop does simply flipping the springs accomplishes. The response I got was 4". I then ask what's the shackles for. They tell me if I use the shackles, it's another 2"...a total of 6" drop. Then I ask, if the shackles drop the truck an additional 2', can I just by the shackles, cause that's all I really want to drop the truck. Of course, they tell me no, shackles only come in the kit. So, that's why I asked if anyone had just bought the kit...thrown the flipping hardware away and just install the shackles. BassRanger says I got it wrong.

Did bass Ranger install the kit on his ranger? I guess I'll have to call Belltech to find out from one of their engineers who is right. The instruction are a little unclear.

And one last thing... I'll probably have to raise the front, because it doesn't seem that the rear can be lowered 2" without re-arching springs. Raising the front will also accomplish what I'm looking for...getting rid of the "ass up" attitude of the truck.
 

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Hey Dereku and Blmpkn...what part of "First, I'm a newbie to the Ranger lifestyle" didn't you bother toread or understand? No need to insult me. You don't know me or what I actually want. I bought the Tremor because it was a deal I couldn't pass up...a lot better than the XLT available here I may be sorry I bought it in a few months, but I've only had the truck for less that a week. I also said I loved the truck, I just wasn't keen on the ass-up attitude of the truck. So, I'm going to ask you both, if you also liked the ass up look, why lift the front to level it? Give me a freaking break. And one last thing...I haven't had it long enough to do any "wheel often OR hard enough (or at ALL)" yet...but I will soon! If you 2 have nothing to add to the conversation, keep your idiotic comments to yourself please.

As to the Belltech kit, I specifically asked whomever was manning the email desk the other day, how much drop does simply flipping the springs accomplishes. The response I got was 4". I then ask what's the shackles for. They tell me if I use the shackles, it's another 2"...a total of 6" drop. Then I ask, if the shackles drop the truck an additional 2', can I just by the shackles, cause that's all I really want to drop the truck. Of course, they tell me no, shackles only come in the kit. So, that's why I asked if anyone had just bought the kit...thrown the flipping hardware away and just install the shackles. BassRanger says I got it wrong.

Did bass Ranger install the kit on his ranger? I guess I'll have to call Belltech to find out from one of their engineers who is right. The instruction are a little unclear.

And one last thing... I'll probably have to raise the front, because it doesn't seem that the rear can be lowered 2" without re-arching springs. Raising the front will also accomplish what I'm looking for...getting rid of the "ass up" attitude of the truck.
It’s a little complicated to just lower a little. I know this first hand.

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Hey Dereku and Blmpkn...what part of "First, I'm a newbie to the Ranger lifestyle" didn't you bother toread or understand? No need to insult me. You don't know me or what I actually want. I bought the Tremor because it was a deal I couldn't pass up...a lot better than the XLT available here I may be sorry I bought it in a few months, but I've only had the truck for less that a week. I also said I loved the truck, I just wasn't keen on the ass-up attitude of the truck. So, I'm going to ask you both, if you also liked the ass up look, why lift the front to level it? Give me a freaking break. And one last thing...I haven't had it long enough to do any "wheel often OR hard enough (or at ALL)" yet...but I will soon! If you 2 have nothing to add to the conversation, keep your idiotic comments to yourself please.

As to the Belltech kit, I specifically asked whomever was manning the email desk the other day, how much drop does simply flipping the springs accomplishes. The response I got was 4". I then ask what's the shackles for. They tell me if I use the shackles, it's another 2"...a total of 6" drop. Then I ask, if the shackles drop the truck an additional 2', can I just by the shackles, cause that's all I really want to drop the truck. Of course, they tell me no, shackles only come in the kit. So, that's why I asked if anyone had just bought the kit...thrown the flipping hardware away and just install the shackles. BassRanger says I got it wrong.

Did bass Ranger install the kit on his ranger? I guess I'll have to call Belltech to find out from one of their engineers who is right. The instruction are a little unclear.

And one last thing... I'll probably have to raise the front, because it doesn't seem that the rear can be lowered 2" without re-arching springs. Raising the front will also accomplish what I'm looking for...getting rid of the "ass up" attitude of the truck.
The shackles only would work with the other parts of the kit. Leveling the front is a much cheaper and easier. A simple 1 inch spacer level would decrease that rake, but still leave you enough so you won't squat when towing heavy. The spacer level wouldn't impact the performance of your tremor suspension. If you want to lower the rear you are gonna have to remove the tremor parts. Also, removing the tremor bump stop and going to a regular would do nothing but decrease your payload and comfort when offroading.

I hope that helps.
 

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Hey Dereku and Blmpkn...what part of "First, I'm a newbie to the Ranger lifestyle" didn't you bother toread or understand? No need to insult me. You don't know me or what I actually want. I bought the Tremor because it was a deal I couldn't pass up...a lot better than the XLT available here I may be sorry I bought it in a few months, but I've only had the truck for less that a week. I also said I loved the truck, I just wasn't keen on the ass-up attitude of the truck. So, I'm going to ask you both, if you also liked the ass up look, why lift the front to level it? Give me a freaking break. And one last thing...I haven't had it long enough to do any "wheel often OR hard enough (or at ALL)" yet...but I will soon! If you 2 have nothing to add to the conversation, keep your idiotic comments to yourself please.
Newbie to Rangers , AND newbie to the Ranger5G banter. A lot to gain if one rolls with the punches!

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Normally this is where I would throw in my .02 about de-arching the springs.

This has taken one of those ugly turns, remember everyone, we each have the right to modify or f#(k up our trucks as we please, depending upon your opinion on modifications.

I had people fail to understand, why I did not do a front level kit instead of lowering the back, because I wanted the back lower for loading a heavy bike, and the stupid stink bug look is just so Ford can have the heavy payload rating.

Lowering the back of a Ranger Tremor is a interesting challenge, de-arch gets you maybe 2" (I went for 1.5") otherwise you have to drop it a lot, spring flip and such.

Then you will have to adjust the pinon angle either way you go and change the bump stops to the Raptor ones or just shorten the stock ones.

Good luck, avoid getting riled by the comments if you can, usually this is a pretty good group here with good info.
 
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Thanks for your input. I saw those comments and just started to turn green (Hulk) after read the comments from weaner-man and nose picker guy!

I have looked at way to may post addressing what I'm looking for and figured I might as well contact Belltech directly to get the answer from the manufacturer (engineers) of the flip kit, and whomever it was tells me conflicting info to all the posts I see on the forum. I was just checking to see if anyone had done what I thought was good info. Evidently, whomever was responding to my emails at Belltech knows less about the kit they sell than everyone else. I'm going to call and see if I can actual speak to someone later today. I will post what this call reveals after. Probably going to hike up the front after all.

I'm a car guy...not a 4wd truck guy...yet. I'm in New Orleans, and NOLA Motorsports, where I track my Z06, has an off-road track. Think I'm going to go over there this weekend and get my Tremor dirty:oops:
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