Had both a Gladiator Rubicon and now a Ranger Tremor. My impressions.

[Dave1899]

Now what to do with the brand new winch, brand new front offroad bumper, Jeep caps & stuff, and all them damn rubber ducks!!!

You can send me some of those rubber ducks for my wife's Jeep. She got ducked once! ? This is her 3rd Jeep. We come from a long line of Jeeps in the family starting with my Dad's first Wagoner when I was a kid.

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[Megawatt]

You Joe are not correct! When I drive easy, which I do now a days ,as being retired and in no hurry normally, on the road at 55 to 60 MPH, I actually get 24 to 26 noted on the MPG indicator. I take off slow, run the speed limit or even sometimes a bit less, and just enjoy the cruise. Most people drive way over the posted limit, however at today's gas prices, I personally drive easy and enjoy good gas mileage. Now on my Harley, to avoid getting run over, I do run about 5 to 10 MPH over most of the time.
Yesterday, I drove mostly rural highway roads and some small town driving and pulled in my driveway with 25.1 MPG indicated. Truthfully!
Additionally, my tires are at 41 to 42 PSI now set that way from the dealer...

Like I said before. I referred to ACTUAL mpg. What you read in the screen is not ACTUAL. The new hasn’t worn off yet and your a happy new owner, congrats. But there ain’t no way your getting 26mpg in a Tremor.

 

[NTXTremor]

I seriously considered the Gladiator (I've had Jeeps in the past) before I settled on the Ranger for a number of reasons.
1) Both of them are WAY more capable off-road than anything I intended to do, so whatever advantages the Jeep might have would have been meaningless to me.
2) I spent quite a bit of time in Thailand and Australia on business, and I fell in love with the Ranger before they were even available in the US.
3) I felt like you could get a similarly equipped Ranger for far less than a Gladiator.
4) I need to be able to tow a vehicle, and MotorTrend called towing with the Gladiator "scary, and, frankly, bordering on dangerous." That was a deal breaker for me.

Enjoy your new Ranger!

 

[Phil_R]

Nobody thinks you're lying.

We're telling you that the numbers "as calculated on the dash" are bullshit.


Also, your tire pressure, as recommended by Ford is listed on the placard in the drivers door jamb. And it is nowhere near 40 psi.

The numbers calculated on the dash when not driving in the city have always been close to calculated at the pump, I have found. Within 1 MPG. Where they are not is with a lot of city stop and start driving I have found.
The tire PSI for the tires on the door jam place card is 39 PSI. I would say that is a lot closer to 40 PSI than not.

 

[9zero1790]

i was excited for the gladiator and really liked some of the concepts. when the production model was shown i was let down. im not anti jeep. i like many of them. but when i was shopping it seemed like everything the gladiator can do the ranger can do just better with a couple exceptions. 1. people dont get all misty or swoon over mid size trucks like they do jeeps. 2. the front locker and tougher off road chops. but the first one i dont care about, the second, id like a tougher front axle and e locker but honestly the truck is already more capable than i will ever push it. if i was a rich guy that wanted to do the what can it handle before it breaks you tube videos i may act differently. but the reality is no trail that an average jeep or toycoma can make would exclude or best the ranger. its one of the most capable off road mid size trucks ever offered in the states. hard core rock crawl slinky suspension stuff sure count the ranger out, but then its not really daily driver rigs doing that in the first place.

 

[Phil_R]

Like I said before. I referred to ACTUAL mpg. What you read in the screen is not ACTUAL. The new hasn’t worn off yet and your a happy new owner, congrats. But there ain’t no way your getting 26mpg in a Tremor.

OK I still believe that the dash calculated mileage is going to be within about 1 MPG on non city roads, without a lot of starts & stops. I just drove about 25 to 30 miles to another community and back again. I filled up before I came back. The first mileage is what I got on the way there. After gassing up, the second mileage is what I got on the way back, doing the speed limit, cruise control set at 55, and AC on.
Believe what you want....

 

[Phil_R]

Welcome to the Ranger club!

The mpg on my dash reliably reads 1 mpg higher than when I hand calculate it. My mpg varies widely depending on driving style. I have gotten 26mpg hand calc more than once in my 4x4 STX. I am 150mi into my current tank and dash is saying 27.1, when i hand calc at the pump I am confident I will have over 26mpg. Although I'm 25, I drive like I'm 75 around here in the winding back roads of maine. I'm in no hurry. Speed limit is 55 and I rarely break that. In the winter in Salt Lake, I am lucky to hit 20mpg hand calc with mixed highway/city driving. The combination of altitude, winter blend gas, stop and go traffic, 80mph highway speed limits and canyon driving (3000ft of gain in 8 miles) all kill my mpg. Mpg varies so widely because everyone drives differently and lives in different areas.

Exactly what I am saying you are finding as well! Thanks!

 

[Wes Siler]

Hit that TM button on the drive mode selector and I don't think you'll miss the front locker too often. In any of the off-road modes, you'll have a very effective brake-based virtual locker function. Provides 90% of the benefit while retaining the ability to steer.

On similar tires, a Ranger should be about as capable as the Gladiator off-road. The Jeep has slightly superior articulation, but at the expense of that insanely long wheelbase.

 

[D Fresh]

The numbers calculated on the dash when not driving in the city have always been close to calculated at the pump, I have found. Within 1 MPG. Where they are not is with a lot of city stop and start driving I have found.
The tire PSI for the tires on the door jam place card is 39 PSI. I would say that is a lot closer to 40 PSI than not.

I'll give you the tire pressure. I forgot we were talking about a Tremor here.

However, the snapshot you see on the dash saying 29.1 is a very rough guesstimate given the current conditions. It's not a number to go by or "brag" about. It doesn't mean anything. You certainly can't, in good faith, say you get 28, or whatever, mpg highway because you see it a few times driving down the road.

The only way to get a real number for you driving your truck is to hand calculate over AT LEAST an entire tank. One you've done that you can begin to calibrate your truck to real world numbers. If you want to know your hwy mpg fill her up hit the highway and don't stop till she's empty, calculate from there.

Until then, you're just grasping at straws.

 

[TheDo114]

OK I still believe that the dash calculated mileage is going to be within about 1 MPG on non city roads, without a lot of starts & stops. I just drove about 25 to 30 miles to another community and back again. I filled up before I came back. The first mileage is what I got on the way there. After gassing up, the second mileage is what I got on the way back, doing the speed limit, cruise control set at 55, and AC on.
Believe what you want....

I'm getting around the same millage as you are with a tremor as well.

I just came back from a 800km (500 miles) trip and got 9.1 L/100km (26mpg) hand calculated. The screen was showing 9.0 L/100km. This was highway driving at 110km/h (68mph) with the AC on. If it helps, I only put premium in my truck and summer gas is finally available.

Here's a picture of my estimated range after filling it up. It shows 694km or around 431 miles.

 

[Phil_R]

I'll give you the tire pressure. I forgot we were talking about a Tremor here.

However, the snapshot you see on the dash saying 29.1 is a very rough guesstimate given the current conditions. It's not a number to go by or "brag" about. It doesn't mean anything. You certainly can't, in good faith, say you get 28, or whatever, mpg highway because you see it a few times driving down the road.

The only way to get a real number for you driving your truck is to hand calculate over AT LEAST an entire tank. One you've done that you can begin to calibrate your truck to real world numbers. If you want to know your hwy mpg fill her up hit the highway and don't stop till she's empty, calculate from there.

Until then, you're just grasping at straws.

Wow Doug.... You mean I actually win one with the tire pressure debate and you were incorrect?
Oh My Gosh... LOL!!!!
There is no 29.1 on my dash display for MPG.
I think you may not of looked close enough.
I would not think 29.1 MPG would be possible either.
On the first picture it shows an average of 25.9 MPG for the 72 miles driven on that tank.
The second picture shows an average of 27 MPG for the 28 miles driven on that tank.
I am 67 years old and have had a bunch of new Ford trucks and cars in the past.
On figuring out if the dash display or Lie-O-Meter is accurate, I agree you have to run a full tank and then hand calculate it.
I have done this many times in the past with my easy driving style on highways.
Every time, on the many new FORDS I have owned with displays, I normally see about a 1 MPG difference, on average.
If I am city driving, the dash display for MPG is off more than that.
Again, this is figured on about 55 MPH on fairly flat roads.
BTW, I only use straws in my glass of Diet Coke

 

[Phil_R]

I'm getting around the same millage as you are with a tremor as well.

I just came back from a 800km (500 miles) trip and got 9.1 L/100km (26mpg) hand calculated. The screen was showing 9.0 L/100km. This was highway driving at 110km/h (68mph) with the AC on. If it helps, I only put premium in my truck and summer gas is finally available.

Here's a picture of my estimated range after filling it up. It shows 694km or around 431 miles.

Thanks for that info!!! Appreciate it

 

[D Fresh]

Wow Doug.... You mean I actually win one with the tire pressure debate and you were incorrect?
Oh My Gosh... LOL!!!!
There is no 29.1 on my dash display for MPG.
I think you may not of looked close enough.
I would not think 29.1 MPG would be possible either.
On the first picture it shows an average of 25.9 MPG for the 72 miles driven on that tank.
The second picture shows an average of 27 MPG for the 28 miles driven on that tank.
I am 67 years old and have had a bunch of new Ford trucks and cars in the past.
On figuring out if the dash display or Lie-O-Meter is accurate, I agree you have to run a full tank and then hand calculate it.
I have done this many times in the past with my easy driving style on highways.
Every time, on the many new FORDS I have owned with displays, I normally see about a 1 MPG difference, on average.
If I am city driving, the dash display for MPG is off more than that.
Again, this is figured on about 55 MPH on fairly flat roads.
BTW, I only use straws in my glass of Diet Coke

Of course you do. For reference, the factory pressure for us more pedestrian models hovers around 32 given different tire options.

Just wanted to make sure that you know that 72, 28, or even a hundred miles is nowhere near enough of a sample to judge your mileage by, the factory calibration of the mileage calculator is off by a bit or more, and your truck is not remotely "broken in."

I'd hate to see a new owner be upset when the real world doesn't line up with the dash. There are a lot of things to love about your truck, not keeping that black clean though, and no matter what, if mileage is a concern, you'll surely do much better than the Jeep.

Coke? Straight from the can for me. And diet soda isn't real.

 

[9zero1790]

OK I still believe that the dash calculated mileage is going to be within about 1 MPG on non city roads, without a lot of starts & stops. I just drove about 25 to 30 miles to another community and back again. I filled up before I came back. The first mileage is what I got on the way there. After gassing up, the second mileage is what I got on the way back, doing the speed limit, cruise control set at 55, and AC on.
Believe what you want....

wish mine was gettin that ! mine hovers around 21 and gets to 23 if i really behave and stay on the highway.

 

[deleriumtremor]

wish mine was gettin that ! mine hovers around 21 and gets to 23 if i really behave and stay on the highway.

I don't have much to go on yet, but if I was putting money on how things will turn out after a few more fill-ups and computer versus calculator calibrations, your results would be my guess where I will end up as my real world mileage.

The thing that is really puzzling with Phil_R's results are his Tremor tires have to make a negative impact over what I am running on my stock XLT FX4 w/Sport package (265/65-17 Hankook's), yet he is getting MUCH better results, even MUCH better than EPA estimates.

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