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It appears that someone is conversing with themselves. AKA 'sockpuppet'. Too obvious.
Every time I go to click off, you're conversing with me! At least you're curious of other perspectives, that is a good thing. I am too.
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If Ford the company needs trimmed due to hard times I get that but has anyone asked how the hell all these electric vehicles will get charged on our lackluster power grid?? Also how will all this electricity be provided?? I may be off base but where I live electricity is mainly generated by burning coal. I thought that was bad for the environment?? Also what is the residual damage to the environment to create and then dispose of one battery pack to run these wonder cars and trucks that will save the world.
I’m all for moving forward and like the idea of hybrid vehicles but really don’t think any of the mental midgets at Ford or in Washington have really thought any of this through.
To answer this question one must think back in time to the early days of the ice auto, there was little demand/need for petroleum production and infrastructure, pipelines, gas stations, tankers, etc. So what happened - demand from autos grew rapidly and the petroleum industry responded and yes it was facilitated by our gov and produced moguls like j.d. rockefeller Electric companies can grow their green generation capacity but astutely are holding back and will be assisted by public funding some of which has already allocated in recent legislation. But we will also see higher electric rates, of that I have no doubt. In colorado the biggest supplier of elec power was granted rate increases to prematurely shutter coal producing plants despite several being upgrade to be very low emission. All for the sake of saying, see we are green . There is a lot of private capital invested in ev firms and green energy companies as well.
 
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To answer this question one must think back in time to the early days of the ice auto, there was little demand/need for petroleum production and infrastructure, pipelines, gas stations, tankers, etc. So what happened - demand from autos grew rapidly and the petroleum industry responded and yes it was facilitated by our gov and produced moguls like j.d. rockefeller Electric companies can grow their green generation capacity but astutely are holding back and will be assisted by public funding some of which has already allocated in recent legislation. But we will also see higher electric rates, of that I have no doubt. In colorado the biggest supplier of elec power was granted rate increases to prematurely shutter coal producing plants despite several being upgrade to be very low emission. All for the sake of saying, see we are green . There is a lot of private capital invested in ev firms and green energy companies as well.

Recalling the very early days of the automobile. Motor Fuel (ethanol in the beginning) was available at Hardware stores. Electric vehicles got their start not long after. As you stated, ICE cars made more sense due to the infrastructure and the muscle behind it.

Electric vehicle technology and the infrastructure had no chance of keeping up with ICE vehicles. Things haven't changed very much in the meantime IMO.

A 1911 Walker Electric delivery truck owned by Bowman Dairy back in the day. A fascinating history of the Walker Electric Vehicle Company.





https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Walker_Electric_Truck

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Recalling the very early days of the automobile. Motor Fuel (ethanol in the beginning) was available at Hardware stores. Electric vehicles got their start not long after. As you stated, ICE cars made more sense due to the infrastructure and the muscle behind it.

Electric vehicle technology and the infrastructure had no chance of keeping up with ICE vehicles. Things haven't changed very much in the meantime IMO.

A 1911 Walker Electric delivery truck owned by Bowman Dairy back in the day. A fascinating history of the Walker Electric Vehicle Company.





https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Walker_Electric_Truck

1911_walker_electric_model_43.png
Battery technology has improved greatly with lith-ion and production costs have decreased, but as many on here point out I agree it will be a long gradual transition. More homes are installing solar, but also more homes are installing AC so it's a bit of self perpetuating cycle. But countries like Sweden for example- who historically doesn't use much natural gas for home heating is using other means to produce energy . But it all comes at a cost.

https://www.weforum.org/agenda/2020...es, and is helped,support a local energy boom.
 
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Battery technology has improved greatly with lith-ion and production costs have decreased, but as many on here point out I agree it will be a long gradual transition. More homes are installing solar, but also more homes are installing AC so it's a bit of self perpetuating cycle. But countries like Sweden for example- who historically doesn't use much natural gas for home heating is using other means to produce energy . But it all comes at a cost.

https://www.weforum.org/agenda/2020/09/sweden-energy-production-renewable-power-district-heating/#:~:text=54% of Sweden's power comes from renewables, and is helped,support a local energy boom.
I'm reading were solar panel disposal, lithium battery disposal, windmill disposal, etc. has been problematic.....not seeing solutions in my lifetime....
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