Engine Rattle

[Yinzcity]

"Tuning" a "Ford Ranger" is just a joke.

On the contrary, there are several companies providing tunes for the platform, and the performance gains are proven. Does it trade durability for performance? Probably a little bit. But I don't think significantly. Heck, Ford themselves offer a performance tune with a warranty if it's installed by their people. But if someone isn't comfortable with the risk, then it's up to them to make the decision to tune or not.

For the OP. These trucks have a bunch of wierd sounds and quirks. It is a bit disappointing, I'm also eyeing the new Canyon when it comes out next year, but will most likely be disappointed in the pricing.

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[Wytchdctr]

@Livernois Motorsports

Seems you guys don't know what your doing. This dude from the internet knows more about tuning. The noise that I'm not worried about seems to be pre-ignition or detonation and has nothing to do with weird Ford noises. Especially when comparing a stock truck noise to one tuned with your work, same noise - very different conditions. I chimed in to add to the random people who notices some random noise at 3k rpm. Uncommon but is a thing they seem to do.

He obviously knows more. Especially when saying running 93 on a turbo vehicle is dumb in general. When more than one source says that Rangers make more power on 93 vs 87.

I mean. He apparently read the owners manual.

 

[Robwill]

Easy guys! A little background regarding my experience with 91-93 octane. My truck is bone stock. I'm in sales and drive it about 500 miles a week, mostly on the highway. I noticed during around town driving that under light load from 2000 to 3000 rpm that it would ping a little running 87 octane. So, I ran 91-93 for a while thinking thay since it's a charged engine, it might need it. It didn't help the pinging but it did seem to make the "rattle" worse so I went back to 87 and the rattlexseems better. Who knows if what I heard was detonation pinging? These damn engines have more intermittent clicking and rattling than I've ever heard unless you wringing it's neck. Then it sounds pretty good. Noisiest engine I've had in any car I've ever owned. A real shame sincevit's such a nice vehicle. Between the engine noise, the low speed shudder, the highway vibration that I can't gey a solution to and stupid programming of the transmission so that the 10 speed skips 2nd, 4th and sometimes 6th, I'm seriously planning to trade it early next year. If the programming didn't run the rpm up so high in first so that the engine doesn't lug down when it skips the next gear, it be so much more pleasant to drive.

 

[Wytchdctr]

Easy guys! A little background regarding my experience with 91-93 octane. My truck is bone stock. I'm in sales and drive it about 500 miles a week, mostly on the highway. I noticed during around town driving that under light load from 2000 to 3000 rpm that it would ping a little running 87 octane. So, I ran 91-93 for a while thinking thay since it's a charged engine, it might need it. It didn't help the pinging but it did seem to make the "rattle" worse so I went back to 87 and the rattlexseems better. Who knows if what I heard was detonation pinging? These damn engines have more intermittent clicking and rattling than I've ever heard unless you wringing it's neck. Then it sounds pretty good. Noisiest engine I've had in any car I've ever owned. A real shame sincevit's such a nice vehicle. Between the engine noise, the low speed shudder, the highway vibration that I can't gey a solution to and stupid programming of the transmission so that the 10 speed skips 2nd, 4th and sometimes 6th, I'm seriously planning to trade it early next year. If the programming didn't run the rpm up so high in first so that the engine doesn't lug down when it skips the next gear, it be so much more pleasant to drive.

Not an apples or oranges comparison. Someone wanted to chime in with bad information. Each truck both do it, stock vs tuned. It's a thing some do it seems. I am not worried about it unless it causes an issue.

 

[Robwill]

I'm going to take a serious look at the Canyon Denali as well unless it's priced crazy high.

 

[Wytchdctr]

If he did a bit of research he might see the other posts concerning octane and power. Instead of spewing shit into a convo about random noises only a few trucks are doing. A few relative to the number here vs on the road doing it.

 

[LB'sTremor]

The manual talks about using higher octane for better performance...


LB

 

[Wytchdctr]

The manual talks about using higher octane for better performance...


LB

Maybe he didn't.

 

[Robwill]

I didn't notice any performance gain on 93 except that the fuel mileage was about 2-3mpg better which didn't offset the price difference. For what I use my truck for, I have no interest in a tune excpet maybe to make the tranny not skip gears. And before anyone posts a reply that I should run it in Sport mode or tow haul, yes I know that will make it not skip gears. But, it also runs the rpm up in every gear, making the engine noiser. After spending millions in partnership with GM developing a great 10 speed so that the engine is always in it's torque curve at a relaxed rpm, why would you program it to skip gears and get it out of it's torque curve? Makes no sense.

 

[CO2Ranger]

If he did a bit of research he might see the other posts concerning octane and power. Instead of spewing shit into a convo about random noises only a few trucks are doing. A few relative to the number here vs on the road doing it.

My guess is that if more people really cared what their vehicle was doing or knew what to listen for, we'd find that every Ranger does it.

I could hear it before I tuned the truck, but(!) didn't even notice it until I turned off the fake engine noise with Forscan. Honestly if the damn thing blows up, so be it. I totally agree that it's an incredibly noisy engine to begin with.

 

[Wytchdctr]

My guess is that if more people really cared what their vehicle was doing or knew what to listen for, we'd find that every Ranger does it.

I could hear it before I tuned the truck, but(!) didn't even notice it until I turned off the fake engine noise with Forscan. Honestly if the damn thing blows up, so be it. I totally agree that it's an incredibly noisy engine to begin with.

I honestly didn't notice until I did a many..many hour(s) trip with the wife with the radio down so we could talk. It was mostly back roads highway so many opportunities to accelerate away from lights with lowish throttle. Even then it didn't sound like ping/detonation/pre-ignition or rotating parts. Just a bit ... annoying/odd.... so I did search and found others with the exact same issue. Thought I'd add my name to the post of who have that "issue".

I am in the same boat. Send it!

 

[OFC Ranger]

For those of you just joining this thread let me sum it up for you so you don't waste your time;

 

[CO2Ranger]

For those of you just joining this thread let me sum it up for you so you don't waste your time;

Well they started it! ?

 

[Jason B]

Other than some (depending on your fuel maker / supplier) increased detergent benefits, and that is a "maybe", why do some think running an octane above that which is spec'd is a benefit? The engine was designed around a certain octane (which as we all know of course, octane has nothing to do with "power"). Octane retards combustion, and is required by some high performance engines, which of course our Rangers do not have.

RTFM:

Your vehicle is designed to operate on regular unleaded gasoline with a minimum pump (R+M)/2 octane rating of 87.
Some fuel stations, particularly those in high altitude areas, offer fuels posted as regular unleaded gasoline with an octane rating below 87. The use of these fuels could result in engine damage that will not be covered by the vehicle warranty.
For best overall vehicle and engine performance, premium fuel with an octane rating of 91 or higher is recommended. The performance gained by using premium fuel is most noticeable in hot weather as well as other conditions, for example when towing a trailer.

 

[Livernois Motorsports]

I didn't notice any performance gain on 93 except that the fuel mileage was about 2-3mpg better which didn't offset the price difference. For what I use my truck for, I have no interest in a tune excpet maybe to make the tranny not skip gears. And before anyone posts a reply that I should run it in Sport mode or tow haul, yes I know that will make it not skip gears. But, it also runs the rpm up in every gear, making the engine noiser. After spending millions in partnership with GM developing a great 10 speed so that the engine is always in it's torque curve at a relaxed rpm, why would you program it to skip gears and get it out of it's torque curve? Makes no sense.

The most noticeable area you'd expect to see improvements going from regular to premium other than the MPG you've mentioned would be wide open throttle and staying there such as a zero to 60+mph type of run with traction / advance trac disabled. They can also take a full tank or two before you'll really start to see the improvements since they need time to adapt to the change of fuel. We do offer tuning to just disable skip shifting alone and have done some custom calibration changes for some that wanted their trucks to have the tow / haul mode's up-shifting schedule but still have the normal Drive mode downshifting schedule to eliminate that rev hang engine breaking feel on deceleration as well. So it wouldn't be a problem to build a skip shift only tune if that's what you would be interested in, feel free to give us a call PM or email and we would be happy to help take the truck to the next level. 313-561-5500 ext 1 or email [email protected]

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