I really liked the Tundra 1794 hybrid I recently test drove. Just not sure about the engine durability with that V6. Wish they still had the V8.It was the color I loved. I can see where it can be misleading.
The Tacoma...
The wife is convincing me I don't need it.
or hurricane
it won't get a v8... it will be hurricane 99.9% sureOne of my nieghbors has a 2025 zr2. Its is a very nice truck. Difinitely wins the look department and I would take it before my RR if rock crawling is on the agenda. But if hooning fun is on the agenda RR hands down. I also think the RR rides better on the street plus it has 3 settings for suspension 4 for exhaust from steering wheel. Then there's the 3.0 when tuned.
I was shopping the zr2 and bison prior to buying a RR. Really cannot go wrong with any of them if you want a badass sporty midsized truck. Or wait to see if the Dakota gets a v8
i dunno... the hemi in the dakota makes more sense because the power on the hurricane is notably greater than the hemi. so much torque on that hurricane engine. a midsize truck is probably too light.
I helped my son buy a 2023 iforce max platinum Tundra - 36k miles, lots of power and it's delivered smoothly with Yota's hybrid and the rear coil suspsension gives it a smooth ride. I'm not concerned about the engine longevity, the main issue I'm aware was the crank bearing which was limited to certain production runs. I'd considered a Tundra as it would be a big step up for towing but I no longer drive a whole lot of miles annually, so will look at lower cost models from Ford and Chevy, Chevy is touting their new V8 engines, before they had their crank bearing isses those engines were durable, some had lifter problems and the new V8s have supposedly rectified that issue.
Yes, the Toyota ride is amazing and hybrid powerful. Very roomy and comfortable. The price is higher but you can't just order exactly what you want. I see the Toyota CEO saying the US made Toyota trucks don't have the same quality as the Japanese built ones and they're working on fixing that. You have to basically take what they make at a premium price. I just read they are considering a V8 in the future because of the number of requests for it.
Two of my neighbours have the newer (2024–ish) Tundra. Nice looking and absolutely huge. One is the hybrid version and man, that guy sneaks down the street so quietly, I have to have my head on a swivel when cutting the grass (no sidewalks). They both say they love them and they look sharp.
The wife's car is a hybrid and they can be almost scary quiet in EV mode. If it wasn't for the logo in the dash you'd not know it was running.
Maybe it shouldn't but I get freaked out when I see pics of the engine out of the bay - the amount of hose, piping, wires and the overall complexity is daunting - since the 80s I've had 7 turbo charged vehicles, yrs back it was pretty simple - a turbo added some extra plumbing and components, but contrast that with today's turbo engines. In the past I kept cars over 10 yrs and over 200k miles, don't drive nearly that much but as the car ages all those hoses wires and so on at some point need replacing. Yes the turbo has low end torque aplenty, quick acceleration and decent mpg but a NA V8 has to be a lot less complex. I believe Toyota still builds reliable engines using robust components but my goodness what a rat's nest of plumbing.
Yeah, some of those EV and hybrid backup warnings are interesting.
Looks like something from a rocket.Maybe it shouldn't but I get freaked out when I see pics of the engine out of the bay - the amount of hose, piping, wires and the overall complexity is daunting - since the 80s I've had 7 turbo charged vehicles, yrs back it was pretty simple - a turbo added some extra plumbing and components, but contrast that with today's turbo engines. In the past I kept cars over 10 yrs and over 200k miles, don't drive nearly that much but as the car ages all those hoses wires and so on at some point need replacing. Yes the turbo has low end torque aplenty, quick acceleration and decent mpg but a NA V8 has to be a lot less complex. I believe Toyota still builds reliable engines using robust components but my goodness what a rat's nest of plumbing.
I've seen the 2.7 EcoBoost engine referred to as Medusa due to all the hoses and pipes.Maybe it shouldn't but I get freaked out when I see pics of the engine out of the bay - the amount of hose, piping, wires and the overall complexity is daunting - since the 80s I've had 7 turbo charged vehicles, yrs back it was pretty simple - a turbo added some extra plumbing and components, but contrast that with today's turbo engines. In the past I kept cars over 10 yrs and over 200k miles, don't drive nearly that much but as the car ages all those hoses wires and so on at some point need replacing. Yes the turbo has low end torque aplenty, quick acceleration and decent mpg but a NA V8 has to be a lot less complex. I believe Toyota still builds reliable engines using robust components but my goodness what a rat's nest of plumbing.
