Another Oil Change Thread !!!

[Floyd]

I'm all for a break in oil change. However after that, its all speculation unless you are sending your samples to Blackstone. I would put money that 99% of people do not need to change their oil at a 3-5k interval. 5-10k is probably fine with quality oil and filter. If you really want the right interval, send your sample off and see what they say.

So... what do they charge$$?
Is it considerably less than an oil change?

Do you take your sample from drain oil?
If so do you drain the oil hot and take the sample immediately with the water and contaminates still in suspension, or wait for it to settle and separate?

Do you perform due diligence for other inspection and maintenance between extended oil changes?

Exactly how much contamination and wear metals should you accumulate between oil changes?

Without Blackstone analysis how did you arrive at 99% or is that all speculation?

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[Floyd]

Only true if only 1% of Rangers have oil dilution issues. My gut tells me it is much higher. All Ranger owners should get at least one oil analysis done to verify that they don't have an oil dilution issue.

? You can do mine after the next 18 years when I trade it in and you buy it still running.
If I last that long!

 

[codestp202]

So... what do they charge$$?
Is it considerably less than an oil change?

Do you take your sample from drain oil?
If so do you drain the oil hot and take the sample immediately with the water and contaminates still in suspension, or wait for it to settle and separate?

Do you perform due diligence for other inspection and maintenance between extended oil changes?

Exactly how much contamination and wear metals should you accumulate between oil changes?

Without Blackstone analysis how did you arrive at 99% or is that all speculation?

If you looked at blackstone's website it would outline all of that, and you wouldn't have to ramble on. The true test of oil life is getting it analyzed - anything else is speculation.

The cost of 1 analysis is less than changing your oil every 3k miles when you can safely push it to 5-10k based on their analysis (if they specify that range).

 

[BladeRanger]

I still got one more free oil change at the dealer. I have mine done every 5k miles.

 

[Jason B]

Only true if only 1% of Rangers have oil dilution issues. My gut tells me it is much higher. All Ranger owners should get at least one oil analysis done to verify that they don't have an oil dilution issue.

To reiterate, oil dilution is not a Ranger specific issue, it's all direct injected gasoline engines.

 

[Floyd]

If you looked at blackstone's website it would outline all of that, and you wouldn't have to ramble on. The true test of oil life is getting it analyzed - anything else is speculation.

The cost of 1 analysis is less than changing your oil every 3k miles when you can safely push it to 5-10k based on their analysis (if they specify that range).

I did look at the web site ... that's the point,
It's a lot cheaper just to change the oil, and use the opportunity to inspect and maintain the truck.

Oil analysis is a waste of money on a car or light truck in normal service. Competent "speculation" on oil change intervals has worked just as well, since I have not had a single part which runs in oil even show wear in over half a century.
Oil analysis, can be useful with heavy equipment , but it nearly always confirms the manufacturers suggested rebuild intervals anyway.

Now that being said, you may get your money's worth in some kind of peace of mind.
I'll just continue to use competent "speculation" with the great results and cash savings I've been getting.

It's all good though...., we don't have to agree and you won't actually hurt anything with your OCD
( oil change decision)

 

[dtech]

Thumbs up to those who post their oil analysis, it's helpful in making informed decisions. As previously posted I have faith in the oil change monitor rather than sticking to a prescribed mileage change interval.

 

[deleriumtremor]

I don't believe these days any manufacturers use a special break in oil as their first fill.

Break in oil historically wasn't to help the rings bed, but usually had high ZDDP or moly content to help protect the new cam and lifters during their early life. I think it has been a very long time since most of the manufacturers were using anything special in their first fill.

 

[puckdodger]

My first one is this Wednesday, right at 3000, I also complained about the tranny so I assume they will at least check the fluid ... I'm all short trips ,so after the first , every 5000 methinks...

I hope everything goes well for you, but when it comes to stealerships you might as well
"Assume" it gets done into one hand and shit into the other, and tell me which one fills up first. ??

 

[NotBudule]

I hope everything goes well for you, but when it comes to stealerships you might as well
"Assume" it gets done into one hand and shit into the other, and tell me which one fills up first. ??

Hahhaha ...worked at one , but this one is the smaller one in the area and I'm going in armed with biscuits from Tudors Biscuit World and a fix it or not attitude so I should be good ...

 

[Vitis805]

You cant look at your initial 1000 mile sample and compare it to your next 5000 mile sample and make definitive declarations as to you state of your oil/engine.

Sure you can. It requires more inference when you use different mileage, and that's a good thing. I am purposefully not trying to create completely controlled parameters so I have a larger and more concise conclusion on where I personally should have my oil change interval with the oil I use and my driving habits. I am not trying to solve an engine problem with my oil samples.

 

[codestp202]

I did look at the web site ... that's the point,
It's a lot cheaper just to change the oil, and use the opportunity to inspect and maintain the truck.

Oil analysis is a waste of money on a car or light truck in normal service. Competent "speculation" on oil change intervals has worked just as well, since I have not had a single part which runs in oil even show wear in over half a century.
Oil analysis, can be useful with heavy equipment , but it nearly always confirms the manufacturers suggested rebuild intervals anyway.

Now that being said, you may get your money's worth in some kind of peace of mind.
I'll just continue to use competent "speculation" with the great results and cash savings I've been getting.

It's all good though...., we don't have to agree and you won't actually hurt anything with your OCD
( oil change decision)

My point was simply that people who follow 3k intervals like we're back in the 80's with non-synthetic oil are wasting cash. Not saying you NEED to do analysis, more so that folks who freak out and change their oil incredibly frequently would save money by getting an analysis and sleep easier changing their oil less frequently.

I typically don't do analysis, but I have in the past. I'm not ocd about my oil changes at all, just do them every 5-8k miles based on towing/offroading etc and don't worry about it too much. I would actually agree with you that most people also don't need to spend the money on the analysis. I think we're essentially saying the same thing lol.

The overarching statement is that oil change intervals before manufacture guidelines are all speculation unless you get analysis done.

 

[Floyd]

Engines have changed and service has changed, but the big changes are paved roads and better oil.
Personally I know more about the service and driving habits to which my vehicle is subjected than Blackhawk does.
So while they may be able to supply some useful information, oil change recommendations from Blackhawk would actually be more "speculation" than my own.
They can only add another factor to the decision process.

 

[Vitis805]

oil change recommendations from Blackhawk would actually be more "speculation" than my own.

What? Blackstone supplies viscosity and TBN. Those are hard figures with zero speculation. If viscosity has fallen from 5w30 range, time to change your oil. When there is no additives left to do their job, time to change your oil.

Their entire business model centers around informing the consumer with hard, quantifiable data...

 

[Phil_R]

I changed my oil today.

Went fine, just took my time and it is done now for another 100, err I mean, 500, or was it 3000. or 5000 or 10,000 miles.

I am so confused.....

When ever I have the $$$ to buy the oil and filter to do it the next time is now the correct interval for me

Seriously, the new screws that Ford for is using for the flap removal to access the oil filter are sweet.

My son in law and daughter have a Bronco and the push pins I don't really like all that much when I help (or do for them) oil changes.

Pretty pictures below of my Ranger's oil filter area!

OK, back to debating when to change your oil...LOL!!!

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