The 10R80 needs this technology

[Stevedbvik1]

https://moparinsiders.com/stellantis-patents-advanced-transmission-fluid-drainage-system/

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[Grumpaw]

Just something else that can go wrong due to "advanced technology" when a simple $5 buck drain plug will do....

 

[RangerPNW]

If Stellantis is the first one to implement this, its probably not going to work well...

 

[dtech]

Being a flush proponent I like it and it likely won't add much cost, kudos to Stellantis for seemingly acknowledging that sealed lifetime fluid just isn't realistic , and I also like one of the bullets,
"Actively flushes out debris, reducing contamination risks." When you do multiple drain and fills a lot of fluid goes to waste, if you do just one you are mixing a lot of new fluid with old. So for those who rail against flushes (I think being anti-flush is dated thinking) this would be great for the DIY .

 

[dtech]

Certainly a more useful idea than some of that *ss wipe sh%t that Ford patents that has been posted on here - like a system to weigh the truck to detect drug smuggling or the steering wheel that converts to a fast food eating tray , I mean I've taken some drugs in my lifetime but nothing that would make me dream up such utterly useless crap. The sad part is that Ford might be working on such useless sh#t instead of addressing their quality failings.

 

[Msfitoy]

This patent won't do them any good since they're moving to all EV...maybe patent a Hemi V8 Sound System...

 

[GreyAreaRanger]

I thought I had read somewhere that the old Ford 4 speeds had a drain plug on the torque converters so that you could remove all the fluid and the filters. Am I mistaken about that? If not, why couldn't something simple like that be implemented?

 

[dtech]

You would still have to drop the pan to drain the torque converter - a messy job, the same reason the tranny pan doesn't have a drain plug as the the torque converter - decontenting them reduces cost. Stellantis patent wouldn't require dropping the pan, making fluid flushes simpler and non invasive.
I'm old enough to remember when steering and suspension parts had grease fittings, not having to drill and add a zerk reduces cost, some after market parts do have those zerks.

 

[GreyAreaRanger]

You would still have to drop the pan to drain the torque converter - a messy job, the same reason the tranny pan doesn't have a drain plug as the the torque converter - decontenting them reduces cost. Stellantis patent wouldn't require dropping the pan, making fluid flushes simpler and non invasive.
I'm old enough to remember when steering and suspension parts had grease fittings, not having to drill and add a zerk reduces cost, some after market parts do have those zerks.

Still have to remove the pan to change the filter, and given FCA's track record, I'll take a chance on the possible contamination. To each their own though.

 

[dtech]

This patent won't do them any good since they're moving to all EV...maybe patent a Hemi V8 Sound System...

Well it could lead to a cross licensing agreement, stellantis gets to use Ford's innovative steering wheel/ dinner table and Ford gets something that makes the 10r80 last longer than yours did

 

[got3fords]

I think being anti-flush is dated thinking

Agreed. My trans is running very well after a flush, but I also added Lubeguard.

 

[canyonslicker]

You would still have to drop the pan to drain the torque converter - a messy job, the same reason the tranny pan doesn't have a drain plug as the the torque converter - decontenting them reduces cost. Stellantis patent wouldn't require dropping the pan, making fluid flushes simpler and non invasive.
I'm old enough to remember when steering and suspension parts had grease fittings, not having to drill and add a zerk reduces cost, some after market parts do have those zerks.

Okay I’m just going to say this.. I’ve worked with my dad whom was a Ford transmission mechanic until he retired and died at 87. I helped and serviced uncountable C4, C6 and FMX transmissions. We would always drop the pan to see if there were indications of clutch material or metal shavings. He never would replace a filter unless it needed a rebuild. Also back then the torque converter had a drain plug that he religiously demanded it be drained so it had completely fresh fluid.. instructions from Ford was to “flush” no pan removal.. He said “ok” more for me in the future. Then later on it was was remove and replace under warranty. No longer rebuild options.

So my point here is bring back torque converter drain plugs.. screw filter changes.

 

[Canadian Ranger]

Okay I’m just going to say this.. I’ve worked with my dad whom was a Ford transmission mechanic until he retired and died at 87. I helped and serviced uncountable C4, C6 and FMX transmissions. We would always drop the pan to see if there were indications of clutch material or metal shavings. He never would replace a filter unless it needed a rebuild. Also back then the torque converter had a drain plug that he religiously demanded it be drained so it had completely fresh fluid.. instructions from Ford was to “flush” no pan removal.. He said “ok” more for me in the future. Then later on it was was remove and replace under warranty. No longer rebuild options.

So my point here is bring back torque converter drain plugs.. screw filter changes.

I'd be happy with a drain plug in the transmission pan!

 

[TJC]

You would still have to drop the pan to drain the torque converter - a messy job, the same reason the tranny pan doesn't have a drain plug as the the torque converter - decontenting them reduces cost. Stellantis patent wouldn't require dropping the pan, making fluid flushes simpler and non invasive.
I'm old enough to remember when steering and suspension parts had grease fittings, not having to drill and add a zerk reduces cost, some after market parts do have those zerks.

I remember torque converter pans, 2 bolts and the pan dropped, then you had to locate the plug on the torque converter. Good ole days in the 1960s. I saw a lot of cars running without that pan. The one I specifically remember has a weep hole in the bottom of it.

 

[dtech]

I remember torque converter pans, 2 bolts and the pan dropped, then you had to locate the plug on the torque converter. Good ole days in the 1960s. I saw a lot of cars running without that pan. The one I specifically remember has a weep hole in the bottom of it.

I recall a thin cover plate held by 2 bolts , yeah easy to drain the converter and back then I think all trannies had a drain plug and a dipstick. I remember a couple of old clunkers I drove getting front seal leaks , seals have been much improved so you don't hear of that happening much anymore.

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