Towing 4500 lb camper up 8% grade

[Frenchy]

It's basic math 10,280/6,050 = 1.69918 = 170% (rounded).

In his post he never mentioned a trailer, even mention over 1,000lbs in the bed. Granted, 1,000lb is very different than 4,000lb so perhaps a trailer was involved. But it didn't read like that included having a trailer. When he mentioned the weighs out of the yard and didn't list a trailer I'm assuming (I know that can be dangerous to assume, but I did put IF in my statement to cover that I could have misunderstood) that he didn't scrap the trailer he brought the haul in on and I've never heard on the weigh out not including the trailer, my scrap runs my weigh out has always included the trailer.

GVWR is related to the vehicle itself. Also the same vehicle has a toing capacity of upto 7500 LBS. Ford also recommends trailer brakes after a certain weight(can't remember the number of the top of my head). That said no it is not 170% of truck capacity since the combine GVWR is much higher. I'm going to say you were trained by U-Haul?

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[ControlNode]

GVWR is related to the vehicle itself. Also the same vehicle has a toing capacity of upto 7500 LBS. Ford also recommends trailer brakes after a certain weight(can't remember the number of the top of my head). That said no it is not 170% of truck capacity since the combine GVWR is much higher. I'm going to say you were trained by U-Haul?

uh, I know what the weight ratings are and where they apply. Where did he say it was towing that?

I also see that @UtahShooting was around the GCWR limit for his Ranger (assuming it's a SuperCrew) at 9900'. A SuperCrew 4x4 at that altitude only has a GCWR of 9125lb, instead of the 12500lb it has a sea-level to 999'

 

[Grandaccess]

So, if that is no trailer as you indicated, I think that is over 4,000lb over-loaded. GVWR on these is only about 6,050lb, so that is 170% of what the truck is rated for. You really need to get a trailer with brakes for pulling that much scrap around. That rear axle was likely more than twice its rated load, some people may talk about built in margins beyond the ratings, but if that was all in the truck, it was way beyond any assumed margins. Loads are not just about what the springs can carry, it's about the loads impact on bearings and how much they can dissipate the heat before being overwhelmed and damaged from excessive heat, braking system limits, and so on. Truck is a work horse, but an abused work horse will live a short life.

that "weigh in" was a truck on the car dolly with scrap in it, that truck was about 5200 lbs, so far the most I have had in the Bed was 1100 lbs, it only made the bed go down 1/2 inch
this is weigh out of my empty truck without trailer

 

[ControlNode]

that "weigh in" was a truck on the car dolly with scrap in it, that truck was about 5200 lbs, so far the most I have had in the Bed was 1100 lbs, it only made the bed go down 1/2 inch
this is weigh out of my empty truck without trailer

OK, thank for the clarification, the 10,280lb was GCW while towing, not in the bed (GVW). As I said, not where was that post was it mentioned that that was towed. Did you have any brakes on the dolly or a way to activate the brakes of the truck that was on the dolly? Unbraked tow limit with the Ranger is only about 1,650lb based on the manual and towing guides from Ford.

Also, I'm not sure what you are attempting to show with measuring the front wheel tire to fender gap, to me without the rest of the information it doesn't mean anything.

 

[Grandaccess]

Ok it was towed weight, not in the bed. As I said, not where was that mentioned in what I read. Did you have any brakes on the dolly or a way to activate the brakes of the truck that was on the dolly? Unbraked tow limit with the Ranger is only about 1,650lb based on the manual and towing guides from Ford.

No brakes on any of my trailers, I have Surge on one but don't use that trailer much, The ranger stopped it just fine no matter what load I have pulled, didn't know it was back there
when I had 1100 lbs of steel rollers (In The Bed) I couldn't tell, a 1/2 inch squat is nothing and no body roll at all, None.

 

[Grandaccess]

OK, thank for the clarification, the 10,280lb was GCW while towing, not in the bed (GVW). As I said, not where was that post was it mentioned that that was towed. Did you have any brakes on the dolly or a way to activate the brakes of the truck that was on the dolly? Unbraked tow limit with the Ranger is only about 1,650lb based on the manual and towing guides from Ford.

Also, I'm not sure what you are attempting to show with measuring the front wheel tire to fender gap, to me without the rest of the information it doesn't mean anything.

10k would have had to be towed 1500 would be the upper end of what I would ever put in the bed
and with the Rough Country lift if I ever get it to sit on the axle I will post a picture of that LOL

 

[ControlNode]

10k would have had to be towed 1500 would be the upper end of what I would ever put in the bed
and with the Rough Country lift if I ever get it to sit on the axle I will post a picture of that LOL

I agree, that should be towed, but I don't assume that is what you're doing without it stated. With what I've seen some of the trucks around here or the FFR post online I would not doubt that someone, somewhere has done it.

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