Do these tire sizes exist?

[NvrFinished]

Not trying to be argumentative I’m genuinely curious where would tall and skinny perform better

I didn't think you were It's all good.

Mud is a specific use where tall and skinny are sometimes preferred. The goal is to get through the mud (not float) to the harder bottom to gain grip. Super Swamper and other manufacturers make a variety of tall skinnies just for that purpose.

Hard-packed and icy snow (not soft and slushy) is another example. The narrower contact patch increases tire contact pressure which achieves better grip for such conditions.

Some people with lighter offroad vehicles who prefer rock crawling and hard pack swear by tall skinnies. The smaller contact patch again provides for much more pressure per square inch of tread to provide better overall grip. Plus, the skinnies track better and tend not to follow ruts.

I've read many stories of people with jeeps reporting that they get stuck more with wide tires than narrow tires. They say the wide tires slip more because the load is so spread out and does not provide enough pressure for grip. What's interesting is that many overlanders who travel worldwide tend to prefer tall skinnies.

They definitely have their purpose and will always perform better on road. This is why many manufacturers make them. However, I think for the greatest diversity of offroad conditions, tall and wide is preferred.

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[Squatchranger]

I didn't think you were It's all good.

Mud is a specific use where tall and skinny are sometimes preferred. The goal is to get through the mud (not float) to the harder bottom to gain grip. Super Swamper and other manufacturers make a variety of tall skinnies just for that purpose.

Hard-packed and icy snow (not soft and slushy) is another example. The narrower contact patch increases tire contact pressure which achieves better grip for such conditions.

Some people with lighter offroad vehicles who prefer rock crawling and hard pack swear by tall skinnies. The smaller contact patch again provides for much more pressure per square inch of tread to provide better overall grip. Plus, the skinnies track better and tend not to follow ruts.

I've read many stories of people with jeeps reporting that they get stuck more with wide tires than narrow tires. They say the wide tires slip more because the load is so spread out and does not provide enough pressure for grip. What's interesting is that many overlanders who travel worldwide tend to prefer tall skinnies.

They definitely have their purpose and will always perform better on road. This is why many manufacturers make them. However, I think for the greatest diversity of offroad conditions, tall and wide is preferred.

Most of what I have here is mud and sand and honestly wide works really well for me in the mud ice definitely makes sense tho same thing as like chains or studs break it up. It may just be a really good tread but being wide and having a beefy sidewall I just power through pretty much anything I get to

 

[OFC Ranger]

/popcorn

Go on...

 

[Dereku]

My only guess is demand.

Even at 255/80 r 17 your choices are limited to only E-rated and relatively few manufacturers.

Unfortunately the trend now is overly wide bro truck tires. So while that MT is a new tire, I wouldn't expect more choices to appear on the market.

It takes a guy who feels perfectly adequate to rock the pizza cutters, and most dudes use their truck to make up for other areas where they are "lacking."

I guess we are good because we all drive a relatively small truck?

 

[JohnnyO]

No, they do not.

I've never heard of a 90 aspect ratio tire.

Go to TireRack.com and put it in the tire size boxes.

 

[JohnnyO]

I guess we are good because we all drive a relatively small truck?

Exactly. I don't need to compensate for anything. Also I'm Italian.

 

[OFC Ranger]

Exactly. I don't need to compensate for anything. Also I'm Italian.

 

[Squatchranger]

/popcorn

Go on...

Georgia is right by florida, tell you what get those pizza cutters and come down and play at one of the offroad parks we can see who gets further lol

 

[Dereku]

Exactly. I don't need to compensate for anything. Also I'm Italian.

Im polish, also a nationality know for sausages.

 

[PltFX4]

255/90/17 all terrain

or

285/80/17 all terrain

A couple... 80 series, seems no 90 series

https://www.ebay.com/itm/312974491724?ViewItem=&item=312974491724

 

[OFC Ranger]

Georgia is right by florida, tell you what get those pizza cutters and come down and play at one of the offroad parks we can see who gets further lol

Your first mistake was assuming the nature of my build. Once you made that error then your entire argument becomes flawed down the chain.

 

[JACKSMYDOG]

I didn't think you were It's all good.

Mud is a specific use where tall and skinny are sometimes preferred. The goal is to get through the mud (not float) to the harder bottom to gain grip. Super Swamper and other manufacturers make a variety of tall skinnies just for that purpose.

Hard-packed and icy snow (not soft and slushy) is another example. The narrower contact patch increases tire contact pressure which achieves better grip for such conditions.

Some people with lighter offroad vehicles who prefer rock crawling and hard pack swear by tall skinnies. The smaller contact patch again provides for much more pressure per square inch of tread to provide better overall grip. Plus, the skinnies track better and tend not to follow ruts.

I've read many stories of people with jeeps reporting that they get stuck more with wide tires than narrow tires. They say the wide tires slip more because the load is so spread out and does not provide enough pressure for grip. What's interesting is that many overlanders who travel worldwide tend to prefer tall skinnies.

They definitely have their purpose and will always perform better on road. This is why many manufacturers make them. However, I think for the greatest diversity of offroad conditions, tall and wide is preferred.

Tall and skinny is also better in soft and slushy snow, for the same reasons as mud. You cut through the slippery stuff, and get down to the asphalt for better traction and control.

My summer/off-road tires are 285/70-17. For winter tires I wanted similar height on my factory 18" rims. I was trying to get 235 series but nothing available in 80 or even 75 profile, so I had to go to 255/70-18.

 

[D Fresh]

A couple... 80 series, seems no 90 series

https://www.ebay.com/itm/312974491724?ViewItem=&item=312974491724

Who makes a 285/80 r17?

 

[D Fresh]

Your first mistake was assuming the nature of my build. Once you made that error then your entire argument becomes flawed down the chain.

To be fair, an All Terrain HotPocket Delivery Vehicle is a pretty specific build.

 

[PltFX4]

Who makes a 285/80 r17?

Yep, sorry, just noticed the 285 part... read it as 255 in either 80 or 90 series...

Nope, no 285/80R17s

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