Ford Wants To Force You To Not Speed

[MountainGoat]

So you want to be babied and not be accountable for your actions? If you realize the way you drive is an issue man up and fix it dont wait for the government to do it for you. Your car doesn't have to be controlled by other means you need self control and to get your act together that is not the governments job.

That's not these peoples' type. There are those who take personal responsibility for their lives and those who expect someone else to do it for them. And most of our nu-political issues can be boiled down to which type the person is.

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[Motorpsychology]

Look through this Forum or any other brands', and there is a plethora of threads and sponsors with info or products on how to enhance or defeat every system in a modern vehicle. Forscan et al will be there. Some of the examples in this topic indicate problems with implementation of such a system: two lane pass, yellow light, etc. If you have a GPS that shows the speed limit for the road you are on, how often is it eroneous, out of date? I think it would be possible to hold Ford liable for property damage, Injury or death to the occupants or victims caused by such in a sizable number of cases, if not the majority.
IMO, the end result, if any at all would be a passive system. This has been talked about for years:

A LEO is pursuing a suspect, the patrol car's infrared camera reads the watermark code in the license plate, a query is made to either Ford or the state's DMV, and the suspect's vehicle is remotely slowed down and stopped.

Ford would be working at cross purposes with government, actually; with every Ford doing only the speed limit, billions in traffic enforcement revenue would be lost.

 

[Gerder]

... Forscan et al will be ther…

And that's what only the initiated can do if they are willing to get the worst operating system in the world to manipulate their cart with Russian software... This is symptomatic treatment and not healing!

 

[Gerder]

One more step towards singularity.

 

[Gerder]

…
We need more Darwin award winners to thin the herd and make it stronger.

On the one hand but on the other, think about:

ruling knowledge, the wolf and the sheep, The BORG …

It's not the technology I fear, its people's use of it.

and there we are at the point: who‘s dictating governments the laws…
Peter Thiel, for example, is one of the worst creatures on this planet if not the worst one…

Edit: and I forgot to add, if we all need big brother watching all the time, you've given up faith in the human race. I'm not ready to give that up yet.

think about your darwin statement
maybe there are two strains of mankind. And wouldn‘t it be smarter to deal with this than? Like with the more and more unstable weather due to the turboed climate thing?

Edith meant I had to put a NO FRONT in here!

 

[FunInTheSun]

No sooner do I post my smart Alec remark I come across this article.

Motorists Shocked After Disturbing Message Pops Up On Fuel Pump

Digital rationing is on its way

https://patriotnewsfeed.com/america...ump-says-sorry-youve-reached-your-fuel-limit/

IF you Canada boyz honk your horns too much, the Gov will have Ford disable yer horns...

 

[Jason B]

I have no problem with law enforcement enforces laws. The problem arises when 3rd party private companies try to enforce laws. Like red light camera. There was a moratorium on them here because it was an out of state company issuing tickets and collecting fines, keeping more than half for 'administration' cost. Plus, it had no effect on accidents at traffic lights.

 

[D Fresh]

there's a toll highway around home that could easily hand out speeding tickets through the mail.
all it would take is some legislation at the provincial level and it would be done.
right now, its a drag strip. if you're not doing 130km/h, you better get onto the shoulder as Gramps in his Prius is floored and catching up to you.

a simple time over distance calculation timestamped by the toll roads cameras with entry and exit would suffice as proof that you were speeding.
i would consider it an enhanced photo radar system.
Right now, the police cherry pick the occasional excessive speeder and hand them stunt driving tickets, license suspensions and impound your vehicle. but only a small fraction of those willing to risk it.

Do I speed...sure I do
I got a $200+ photo radar ticket a couple months or so back in the mail from Vancouver. Going to the airport at 3am, i got nipped doing over 80 in a 50 zone. Did it slow me down the rest of the trip? nope, cuz I had no idea I got caught. So i continued on as a menace to the homeless pedestrians that ply the streets that early with their loaded shopping carts filled with Cats they sawsalled off parked cars overnight.

Had my car been controlled by some other means, I would have had a slower, yet safer journey for all and probably wouldn't be such an angry prick all the time. To be able to just chill out for a drive would probably be good for my mind in the long run.

under no circumstances would it remove my rights to travel or anything else i can think of. A free pass to push my luck and break laws in place isnt a right.

So right now we're talking about speed limits, right? I get it, no harm there, right? There's never a legally acceptable reason to speed, right?

What happens when it works so well that they take it to the next level? No lane change without a signal, so when that asshole cuts you off and slams on the brakes you can't perform an emergency lane change. No running a red light so when you see some douche barreling down your rear view with his face in your phone
you can't pull out of his way.

There's no need for this. There are laws in place. It's up to the police to enforce them. Not Ford, not you, not me. If we don't like the way they're doing so, we can exercise our voices and let them know.

If this had anything to do with safety you wouldn't be able to buy a car in the US that goes greater than 85 mph. Every single car sold in the US can do greater than that. Speed kills and high-speed accidents kill the most. If they wanted to save lives they'd govern all cars from the factory. But that's not the goal. The goal is control.

 

[ArchitectThom]

I have no problem with law enforcement enforces laws. The problem arises when 3rd party private companies try to enforce laws. Like red light camera. There was a moratorium on them here because it was an out of state company issuing tickets and collecting fines, keeping more than half for 'administration' cost. Plus, it had no effect on accidents at traffic lights.

From what I know, not only was it a company "out of state", but they were "out of country", too. It was an Australian company called Redflex that was administering it here in Arizona. And they hired people to show up at speeding ticket/red light tickets disputes in courts with a rehearsed script ensuring that the judge not only enforced the ticket, but also enforced the extra fine assessed just for trying to dispute it.

Yes, I learned first hand.

That company made MAD money from those damn cameras.

 

[chasbo]

The UK has made speed limiters mandatory starting next year, so all manufacturers must have this available soon. Probably just a matter of time before the US gov “catches the wave.”

 

[KA5CVH]

What could go wrong?

https://www.yahoo.com/autos/ford-wants-force-not-speed-170000420.html
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More trampling of the Constitution and Civil Rights.

 

[KA5CVH]

Remind me to never again buy another Ford product.

Don't think for a moment it will only be Ford ... it will be all of them ... COMRADE

 

[DonB]

Don't think for a moment it will only be Ford ... it will be all of them ... COMRADE

Yep, you and me both hate the direction this country is headed.

 

[66F100]

So right now we're talking about speed limits, right? I get it, no harm there, right? There's never a legally acceptable reason to speed, right?

What happens when it works so well that they take it to the next level? No lane change without a signal, so when that asshole cuts you off and slams on the brakes you can't perform an emergency lane change. No running a red light so when you see some douche barreling down your rear view with his face in your phone
you can't pull out of his way.

There's no need for this. There are laws in place. It's up to the police to enforce them. Not Ford, not you, not me. If we don't like the way they're doing so, we can exercise our voices and let them know.

If this had anything to do with safety you wouldn't be able to buy a car in the US that goes greater than 85 mph. Every single car sold in the US can do greater than that. Speed kills and high-speed accidents kill the most. If they wanted to save lives they'd govern all cars from the factory. But that's not the goal. The goal is control.

How about you not being able to drive in a certain neighborhood because someone has a restraining order against you? Or drive near a school because your spiteful ex wrongfully accused you of child abuse.
If you aren't some sort of convicted criminal you shouldn't have your freedom and rights removed from you.

 

[D Fresh]

eventually, this will be the control we will be accustomed to.
Im betting Elon Musks dream of self driving cars and the technology behind them will be the end goal every politician will seek based on safety concerns. 85 miles an hour might even be high, and all your arguments in para 2 are moot.

they already have much of the population in their grips with the fear of communicable disease.
Monkey Pox is going to have people running for cover soon, and the government loves seeing this fear manifest itself, it makes their job easier.

I still stand by the fact that Ford is stepping up to be first to do this for some sort of payback, now or later. My link to Ontario and Canada dumping huge cash into Ford in Oakville to retool for electric cars isn't just a fluke.

Musk has been working on full self driving dor a decade and a half with no measureable gains. Doubtful it'll happen in my lifetime, mandated self driving cars.

Monkey Pox is going to have people running for cover? A disease that is effecting a very specific group of people and is not very deadly? I mean it's basically herpes from a rave in Spain. Not too many people I know scared about that.

Fully agree about them establishing a boogeyman. But this isn't it. There are many boogeyman already in place for them to use to scare us into submission.

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