Support group for those wanting to drive their Ranger but can't due to high gas price

[CB750F]

Demand destruction, were in for a world of hurt.

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[halligan1201]

Small trucks like Rangers are viewed as gas savers. Big trucks like an F150, gas hogs. I’m waiting for the market to crash on full size trucks and then I’ll simply trade my Ranger in, even swap for what use to be a $60K F150 Lol. Ok, pipe dream but never say never. Of course when the market rebounds, trade back in for a tidy profit on a new Ranger.

The problem is that the Ranger really isn't a small truck; mine is almost exactly the same size and specs as my 1990 F150 single cab with an 8 foot bed with an inline 6. Same length, same width, same towing, same fuel tank size, the F150 was about 300 lbs lighter but got worse mileage.

The modern "full size" trucks are barges but get the same or better mpg than the current Ranger largely because of power to weight ratios but also because of all the tech tricks.

There's lots of reasons to move to a Ranger from a full size truck but mpg isn't one of them.

 

[Langwilliams]

My niece's husband owned a gas station. He said buying gas for one station made it impossible to make money off gas. If you had a few stations an bought in bulk it was easier to make a little off gas. When the price was stable he made about a nickel off a gallon of gas. He had to raise the price right away for future increases trying to figure out how much it was going to cost to refill the tanks on the next delivery. Gas just got people to stop. He made his money off drinks, energy drinks an snacks. He had a nice run selling prepaid cell phones an minutes but that dried up an he sold the station. The big money maker on gas is the government. 55 cents a gallon while doing nothing but allowing it to be sold sure beats taking all the risks, investing in a station an making 5 cents.

 

[Grumpaw]

Possible sneak photos of RP.......

 

[Chonger]

$8.33 Canadian per Gallon in Vancouver for 87 Octane ($2.20/Litre). Quit your whining. We have a dipshit government that exports 85% of its crude to be refined by the US, which then sells it back to us for huge profits. You think your president is a dumbass, we have the most expensive fuel AND a dumberer PM/President

 

[Gizmokid2005]

$8.33 Canadian per Gallon in Vancouver for 87 Octane ($2.20/Litre). Quit your whining. We have a dipshit government that exports 85% of its crude to be refined by the US, which then sells it back to us for huge profits. You think your president is a dumbass, we have the most expensive fuel AND a dumberer PM/President

And still pay taxes to a queen who lives across the ocean to boot!

You have to remember, the US *grossly* subsidizes gasoline/fossil fuels in this country so our retail prices are way out of line with where they should be.

 

[FoD]

A simple trick for my simple mind...

Since the embargo of '73, I have never paid more than $60 (roughly) for a refill of any vehicle, regardless of the tank size, price/type of gas or the vehicle itself (factory tanks that is).

The trick is to fill it at half tank or just above so you never have an empty (unless your on a long empty road trip that is).

I use Chevron Supreme @ $6 a gallon now in Krappy Kalirusska, but doing that trick is a $48 "fill" this morning. Just got back from a 3 hr road trip, so....

Ranger around town driving is good enough to go2-3 weeks before half tank.

Works for me and has worked for 49 years...so far


PS: Savings can go into a damper and Dave (@AzScorpion) can get you a good link.

 

[Sharky]

I am accepting donations for fuel until gas prices drop below $3.50 a gallon.
please send a private message to me for further instructions to donate.......
Thank you.




update- I have emptied my in box for the second time so new donations can be accepted.
I want to thank those that have already given & a big thank you to those that will also help me
in the future.

 

[VegasRanger]

Yeah okkkkkk. Let me know when you've understood how gas prices are affected by the oil commodities market, to say nothing of gas markets and other trading. This is capitalization on a conflict in the interest of profits.

We don't have a supply issue, but oil is projected to hit $150+/bbl before the month is out, when there's still not a single supply issue.

So am I understanding correctly, in your opinion gas prices are high only because these corporations are being greedy? The policies of this administration are not affecting gas prices at all?

 

[Gizmokid2005]

So am I understanding correctly, in your opinion gas prices are high only because these corporations are being greedy?

Currently, absolutely. There have been no disruptions in our supply chains to have the kind of impact on oil prices that we've seen.

The current impact is *purely* speculative and profit-driven. We saw the exact reverse at the beginning of the pandemic when these same people were *paying* people to take delivery of their paper oil because they had no intentions of actually ever touching the product. That's why oil prices were *negative* for a while. This trading is toxic greed at its finest and why we're being squeezed at the turn of every energy source (mainly at the pump right now).

 

[1pt21gw]

First Rule - It's always about making money. PERIOD.

 

[1pt21gw]

Simple solution is do not drive. Remember the beginning of the Pandemic as @Gizmokid2005 mentioned? Although Americans don't want to do something they are told/suggested on what to do. So panic sets in and away the prices go! It'll hit $7, until profits leak.

Fortunate for me, I have a couple 1200 mile trips in the next few weeks. Gonna be fun.

 

[VegasRanger]

Currently, absolutely. There have been no disruptions in our supply chains to have the kind of impact on oil prices that we've seen.

The current impact is *purely* speculative and profit-driven. We saw the exact reverse at the beginning of the pandemic when these same people were *paying* people to take delivery of their paper oil because they had no intentions of actually ever touching the product. That's why oil prices were *negative* for a while. This trading is toxic greed at its finest and why we're being squeezed at the turn of every energy source (mainly at the pump right now).

Ok I didn’t realize you’re from California, but let’s break this down for CA for instance since you’re living there.

For every gallon of gas sold in California: SOURCE: KTLA
18 cents for federal taxes

• • 51 cents for state taxes
  • 10 cents for sales tax
  • 22 cents for low carbon program
  • 15 cents for greenhouse gas program
  • 2 cents for underground tank storage
    So, for every gallon of gas sold, the state of California takes $1.00. SOURCE: StillwaterAssociates
• The federal government takes 18 cents.
• What about the Oil companies? SOURCE: NaturalResourcesDefenseCouncil
  • Oil producers make $1.12 per gallon.
  • Refineries make 5 cents per gallon.
  • Tankers and pipelines make about 1 cent per gallon.
  • Gas station owners make 4-7 cents per gallon
    
    So, the “greedy” corporations are taking as much as the government is. Tell me again how it’s all about the greedy corporations? You’re not slightly upset at the government? Also, do you know the difference between the government and these oil corporations? The corporations are actually producing a SERVICE. The government is just stealing your money. BTW, to clarify there’s definitely greedy corporations, no doubt, but to put the blame entirely on them and think the politicians have no blame, is stupid

 

[egilbe]

Ok I didn’t realize you’re from California, but let’s break this down for CA for instance since you’re living there.

For every gallon of gas sold in California: SOURCE: KTLA
18 cents for federal taxes

• • 51 cents for state taxes
  • 10 cents for sales tax
  • 22 cents for low carbon program
  • 15 cents for greenhouse gas program
  • 2 cents for underground tank storage
    So, for every gallon of gas sold, the state of California takes $1.00. SOURCE: StillwaterAssociates
• The federal government takes 18 cents.
• What about the Oil companies? SOURCE: NaturalResourcesDefenseCouncil
  • Oil producers make $1.12 per gallon.
  • Refineries make 5 cents per gallon.
  • Tankers and pipelines make about 1 cent per gallon.
  • Gas station owners make 4-7 cents per gallon
    
    So, the “greedy” corporations are taking as much as the government is. Tell me again how it’s all about the greedy corporations? You’re not slightly upset at the government? Also, do you know the difference between the government and these oil corporations? The corporations are actually producing a SERVICE. The government is just stealing your money.

Oh yeah? Well at least in California the taxes go to fix the roads...oh, wait

 

[Wytchdctr]

Political posts are cool on this forum, sweet.

::Cracks open another beer::

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