I Guess GM Has Seen The Light From The Ranger

[Dr. Zaius]

Chevrolet Colorado and GMC Canyon 6 Cylinder And Turbo Diesel Options Replaced By Turbo 4 As The Only Engine

The 2.7 turbo from the Silverado could be the sole engine available.

In the Silverado, this engine is 310/348 so it will be the strongest midsize out there if GM doesn't de-tune it for midsize duty.

I would think a more likely case would be to tweak the HP/TQ in the full size offerings.

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[Mellow]

Hopefully, they fix their transmissions before worrying too much about the engines.. doh!

ah.. it does say 10-spd transmission...hmmm

 

[Sandman Ranger]

Good to see.
Now Ford can bump up 2.3L HP or offer a performance version.
Lightning Ranger!

 

[OKRaptor]

Hopefully, they fix their transmissions before worrying too much about the engines.. doh!

ah.. it does say 10-spd transmission...hmmm

The 10-spd was co-developed with Ford, so likely very similar to the one in the Ranger.

 

[BcP28]

I've driven a few Sierras and Silverados with their 2.7L 4-banger, and I honestly like it better than their 5.3L V8. It doesn't sound as good obviously, but from preformance and responsiveness standpoint, it was pretty good. I think it would do well in a smaller truck like the Canyon and Colorado, and tougher competition usually means better products for the consumer. ?‍

 

[Sashimi_Moto]

I love it. Good for them and I hope competition drives better options as I love the mid sized market.

My only concern is size because theres so much pressure to compete with “more” which often means “bigger” and next thing you know, midsize trucks become TFB just like half tons are now.

I’ve wanted a mid size truck for a long time but have needed a min tow capacity of 7klbs. I don’t particularly like Government Motors products or the “diesel tax” that comes with the colorado that has the tow capacity, so my only option was nothing... until the Ranger.

It would be interesting to see if Nissan Or Toyota takes the queue and improves on their future offers. I’d also be curious to know what the demand is between those who prioritize towing or prioritize off-road. Seems like Toyota believes off road is more important a demo to sell into as a segment leader.

 

[Racket]

I test drove an upscale Colorado before settling on the Ranger. The power seat option is for both front seats in the Ford, wasn't in the Chevy and my wife (who had to be final approval) hated the parking brake pedal on the Colorado. If I recall, the Colorado had the tailgate damper which was nice but not a major component. The interior fit and finish was nearly - if not as by good as the Honda Ridgeline. Only the Nissan had the center handbrake for parking like the Ranger and frankly that was a configuration that we really liked. Oh, and pushbutton ignition...

 

[VAMike]

I'm skeptical. I think Ford & GM will both offer a turbo 6 in their next gen midsize, just because there's enough of a market that will pay a premium for an unnecessarily large engine.

Ditching the diesel is a no-brainer; the take rate is low, there really isn't a point in a mid-size truck, and the engineering/certification is expensive.

 

[langlais]

Yeah just saw that too for gm. It is for 2023 though. Will be probably really fast for a midsize truck ! Like a tunned ranger right now.

 

[ParkRanger90]

But I heard Ford is going with a turbo V6 for the 2022 Ranger

 

[Ranger's My Middle Name]

Ahhhhhh Chevy........ Always 2nd Fiddle. Always the Bridesmaid......... I do give them credit. At least by continually copying Ford they will improve their product by default. We know what happens when they venture out on their own accord (see new silverado and hd).

 

[RANGER_MARC]

Good to see.
Now Ford can bump up 2.3L HP or offer a performance version.
Lightning Ranger!

Yes, this definitely will pressure Ford to put a 2.7 Turbo in future Rangers! Isn't competition great?

 

[db_tanker]

I'd actually like to see them work on a larger bore Ecoboost. A V6 is great and all but a 2.5 EB is certainly doable. The EB's are based on the Mazda L series/Ford Duratec engines...and a 2.5 has already been made...

Let me throw this out there....I'd like to see Ford work on say a 2.0/2.3 based 5 cylinder Ecoboost. Sure it would have to be balanced differently I think due to the odd cylinder count. But check it...we know a 5 pot will fit since the 3.2 TD is fitted in other markets, it would be a bit lighter I think than a V6 (exhaust etc etc)...the trans is already burly enough for the torque, and you would be able to market it in other packages (Transit, F150, FPV/SVT/tuner sales for racing applications) Also it would be able to possibly fill a hole in the Euro Ford Focus since they had to drop the 2.3 RS due to Euro emissions standards.

Of course this is me wanting a 5 cyl turbo since I can't afford a 1990 Audi Quattro coupe

 

[Deleted member 1634]

My only concern is size because theres so much pressure to compete with “more” which often means “bigger” and next thing you know, midsize trucks become TFB just like half tons are now.

A mid-size truck war is exactly what I'm afraid of. A little competition is great, sure, but I'm afraid we'll get into the same "bigger and more powerful is better" competition that the full-size trucks have had for the last 20 years. Once Chevy puts a more powerful engine in, then Ford will have to up the power just recapture the "best in class" moniker, even though it's not required. There's no reason a midsize truck should have to haul more, tow more, or be faster than the Ranger is right now. The reason I bought this truck is precisely because it isn't a hugely overpowered, bloated, monster of a truck. If you want something like that, it already exists in the full-size market. I just hope they don't ruin this for those of us who just want a simple and useful small-ish truck. If they do, then I just have to hope they slot something in underneath it for the rest of us realistic folks.

 

[Hounddog409]

The 10-spd was co-developed with Ford, so likely very similar to the one in the Ranger.

Similar maybe, but not the same. Gm Made a 8 speed while ford had the 10.

And the 8 speed was a pile of crap with YEARS of problems.

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