Question pls

[jebok79]

If it is in your pocket, unprotected, then it is communicating regularly with your vehicle, and thieves with scanners can duplicate those signals to enter your vehicle. I'm not saying that they are, but they can...

you know what i actually suspected the ford itself got access on this.. this vehicle spent almost 1 week on their shop to repair the body damage before way back in november 2023 due to hit and run damage on it... on that timeframe they got all time to do whatevever they want to do with the key to get it done or i dont know but like i said before will monitor this starting today..

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[airline tech]

Related True Story:
Now this was 30 years ago when I was working as auto technician.

I had a service ticket for a Toyota Van (Silver) to replace the battery.
Walked out to the parking lot and there was 2 silver Toyota Vans in the lot.

Went to the closest one to me (walking distance) and tried the key in the door, a little tight but was able to open the door and placed in the ignition and started it.

Pulled the van into the service bay and had the battery out and getting ready to drop the new battery in when all of a sudden, I have a customer behind me asking me WTF AM I DOING TO HIS VAN?

So, it was supposed to be the OTHER SILVER TOYOTA VAN.

I showed him how I was able to open the door and start HIS van with another similar vans key.
He was PISSED and was going to complain to the dealer.

Store manager got involved and the resolution was to give him the new battery for FREE.
I truly apologized for my mistake as I did miss one step that I had as information on the ticket and that was the License Plate number (Which I did not check) but hey the Key Fit

So, the moral of this story is that every KEYED LOCK has many sisters and brothers that will match.
Think about it, do you think every Master Lock sold has its own (One and Only - Key Tumbler)

Now with FOB's they are programmed to the VIN, and I checked it is not every start its every time you hit the Lock / Unlock button on the FOB the (Rolling Code) changes.
This is to PREVENT code grabbing from thieves.

You can go into your IPC screen and actually see how many programmed keys there are for your truck (I think) - might be only the My Key - (special settings for Teen Driver's)
I know you can view this information with a scan tool.
You should have a minimum of 2 programmed keys.

 

[Grandaccess]

I always have a personal protection K9, if you can get in and flip a switch I will give you $100 LOL

 

[pboggini]

Related True Story:
Now this was 30 years ago when I was working as auto technician.

I had a service ticket for a Toyota Van (Silver) to replace the battery.
Walked out to the parking lot and there was 2 silver Toyota Vans in the lot.

Went to the closest one to me (walking distance) and tried the key in the door, a little tight but was able to open the door and placed in the ignition and started it.

Pulled the van into the service bay and had the battery out and getting ready to drop the new battery in when all of a sudden, I have a customer behind me asking me WTF AM I DOING TO HIS VAN?

So, it was supposed to be the OTHER SILVER TOYOTA VAN.

I showed him how I was able to open the door and start HIS van with another similar vans key.
He was PISSED and was going to complain to the dealer.

Store manager got involved and the resolution was to give him the new battery for FREE.
I truly apologized for my mistake as I did miss one step that I had as information on the ticket and that was the License Plate number (Which I did not check) but hey the Key Fit

So, the moral of this story is that every KEYED LOCK has many sisters and brothers that will match.
Think about it, do you think every Master Lock sold has its own (One and Only - Key Tumbler)

Now with FOB's they are programmed to the VIN, and I checked it is not every start its every time you hit the Lock / Unlock button on the FOB the (Rolling Code) changes.
This is to PREVENT code grabbing from thieves.

You can go into your IPC screen and actually see how many programmed keys there are for your truck (I think) - might be only the My Key - (special settings for Teen Driver's)
I know you can view this information with a scan tool.
You should have a minimum of 2 programmed keys.

This reminds me of a story close to 40 years ago. I had driven my dad's '82 Silver Prelude to school. Went out during a break and got in the car to just chill between classes. After a minute or so things didn't seem familiar. Looked around and didn't see much that was familiar and even saw things that I'd never seen before. So, I got out and looked around and saw another '82 Prelude a row over. Locked this car and went to the other and it was my dad's. So, just like @airline tech I found a car with the same key cut.

 

[jebok79]

Related True Story:
Now this was 30 years ago when I was working as auto technician.

I had a service ticket for a Toyota Van (Silver) to replace the battery.
Walked out to the parking lot and there was 2 silver Toyota Vans in the lot.

Went to the closest one to me (walking distance) and tried the key in the door, a little tight but was able to open the door and placed in the ignition and started it.

Pulled the van into the service bay and had the battery out and getting ready to drop the new battery in when all of a sudden, I have a customer behind me asking me WTF AM I DOING TO HIS VAN?

So, it was supposed to be the OTHER SILVER TOYOTA VAN.

I showed him how I was able to open the door and start HIS van with another similar vans key.
He was PISSED and was going to complain to the dealer.

Store manager got involved and the resolution was to give him the new battery for FREE.
I truly apologized for my mistake as I did miss one step that I had as information on the ticket and that was the License Plate number (Which I did not check) but hey the Key Fit

So, the moral of this story is that every KEYED LOCK has many sisters and brothers that will match.
Think about it, do you think every Master Lock sold has its own (One and Only - Key Tumbler)

Now with FOB's they are programmed to the VIN, and I checked it is not every start its every time you hit the Lock / Unlock button on the FOB the (Rolling Code) changes.
This is to PREVENT code grabbing from thieves.

You can go into your IPC screen and actually see how many programmed keys there are for your truck (I think) - might be only the My Key - (special settings for Teen Driver's)
I know you can view this information with a scan tool.
You should have a minimum of 2 programmed keys.

yes i will do this i will programm the 2 of my key fobs to the system vehicle.. if i am not mistaken there a primary and secondary key fobs isnt?

 

[dstig1]

This reminds me of a story close to 40 years ago. I had driven my dad's '82 Silver Prelude to school. Went out during a break and got in the car to just chill between classes. After a minute or so things didn't seem familiar. Looked around and didn't see much that was familiar and even saw things that I'd never seen before. So, I got out and looked around and saw another '82 Prelude a row over. Locked this car and went to the other and it was my dad's. So, just like @airline tech I found a car with the same key cut.

Happened to me too, some 35-40 years ago with a GM car. That was back when they had 2 keys, one for the locks and one for the ignition. Got in just fine but ignition wouldn't turn... Then the clue arrived in my head and I skeddadled.

 

[MountainGoat]

Related True Story:
Now this was 30 years ago when I was working as auto technician.

I had a service ticket for a Toyota Van (Silver) to replace the battery.
Walked out to the parking lot and there was 2 silver Toyota Vans in the lot.

Went to the closest one to me (walking distance) and tried the key in the door, a little tight but was able to open the door and placed in the ignition and started it.

Pulled the van into the service bay and had the battery out and getting ready to drop the new battery in when all of a sudden, I have a customer behind me asking me WTF AM I DOING TO HIS VAN?

So, it was supposed to be the OTHER SILVER TOYOTA VAN.

I showed him how I was able to open the door and start HIS van with another similar vans key.
He was PISSED and was going to complain to the dealer.

Store manager got involved and the resolution was to give him the new battery for FREE.
I truly apologized for my mistake as I did miss one step that I had as information on the ticket and that was the License Plate number (Which I did not check) but hey the Key Fit

So, the moral of this story is that every KEYED LOCK has many sisters and brothers that will match.
Think about it, do you think every Master Lock sold has its own (One and Only - Key Tumbler)

Now with FOB's they are programmed to the VIN, and I checked it is not every start its every time you hit the Lock / Unlock button on the FOB the (Rolling Code) changes.
This is to PREVENT code grabbing from thieves.

You can go into your IPC screen and actually see how many programmed keys there are for your truck (I think) - might be only the My Key - (special settings for Teen Driver's)
I know you can view this information with a scan tool.
You should have a minimum of 2 programmed keys.

Ah this reminds me that these things exist. Sure would be nice to drive a bulldozer through Pfizer HQ

 

[Dr_Strangelove]

This seems like kind of a hassle but as a troubleshooter, (I've got to be careful saying that in the same thread as Airline Tech,) I would just carry both keys on me. If the issues stop immediately and don't come back for a good week or so then I suppose you know somebody is probably using the 2nd key to mess with you. The efforts it would take to create a 3rd key - or in your words, a duplicate key - for a vehicle usually require proof of ownership. I'd imagine in Canada it is no different than USA in that regard.

 

[Crow_of_judgement]

You haven't been playing with a ouiji board have you?

I would refrain from messing with the shadow man

 

[Dr_Strangelove]

 

[Bobby-C]

If it is in your pocket, unprotected, then it is communicating regularly with your vehicle, and thieves with scanners can duplicate those signals to enter your vehicle. I'm not saying that they are, but they can...

 

[Bobby-C]

Doesn't the key fob need to be within a certain distance to steal the codes?

 

[jebok79]

Doesn't the key fob need to be within a certain distance to steal the codes?

honestly i dont know... ?

 

[MXGOLF]

Ah this reminds me that these things exist. Sure would be nice to drive a bulldozer through Pfizer HQ

Try a Hyster forklift. They all have the same key as we have a bucket of keys all alike at my offices shop.

I have two fariday bags one for each key fob I got when I purchased my truck. I am assuming that the bad guy scanners can seek out the key fobs at the same distance or greater the key fob works to open the door. My spare fob is in one of my safes in a fariday bag. Better to be safe these days!

 

[DukeCanBuildit]

Ah this reminds me that these things exist. Sure would be nice to drive a bulldozer through Pfizer HQ

When I was little, my dad took me along with him to a construction site one Saturday morning (road work) and someone had blocked the access point with a bulldozer. Like most little boys, I was fascinated by any kind of heavy equipment so I was happier than my dad to see it there.

He cursed a bit, grumbled about what kind of idiot could have parked right there, fumbled in the glove box and found some keys, got out, started up the bulldozer and moved it out of the way.

I asked him how he had a key to the bulldozer - he told me he had keys to ALL the bulldozers. Instant Hero! ?

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