More Ford backlog.

[Langwilliams]

Henry ford was not a good man, holyshit guys...

My guess is anyone that builds a company that big isn't very nice. Everyone either wants something from you or wants to take over what you built.

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[lazynorse]

Lots of Joe 6 Pack level ignorance around here.

Ford was a vocal racist and anti-semite, published newspaper articles against the Jews. Hitler cited Ford for inspiration.

https://www.thehenryford.org/collec.../henry-ford-and-anti-semitism-a-complex-story

https://www.history.com/.amp/news/henry-ford-antisemitism-worker-treatment

https://www.pbs.org/wgbh/americanexperience/features/henryford-antisemitism/

Henry Ford was a turd. The more you know…

 

[halligan1201]

But what is odd, here in Philippine market there is no option delete, car market seems quite normal.

You're on the newest generation there, right?

 

[Synfulz]

You're on the newest generation there, right?

Yes

 

[pbethel]

Imposing modern mores on figures of the past makes all historic figures look bad.
Most were simply products of the society they lived in, no worse, no better.

 

[Progeny2021]

Imposing modern mores on figures of the past makes all historic figures look bad.
Most were simply products of the society they lived in, no worse, no better.

Speaking of ‘modern mores’…this past Saturday in Texas…?

https://thepostmillennial.com/break...ide-texas-kid-friendly-drag-show?fr=operanews

 

[Radioman]

https://www.thedrive.com/news/growi...cks-missing-chips-is-visible-from-space-again

Two things...
One - If you use Google Earth to look at the parking lot, you will notice the lot is called the "Toyota Parking Lot".

Second - This thread has gone astray

 

[LostMy65]

We're goin off the rails on a crazy train.

 

[Progeny2021]

We're goin off the rails on a crazy train.

Not necessarily a bad thing. The original topic was boring as heck. Some 'focus' every now and again is good.

 

[LostMy65]

Not necessarily a bad thing. The original topic was boring as heck. Some 'focus' every now and again is good.

Yeah, derailments can be fun and I know aren't such a big deal here in these forums. I actually appreciate the light modding this site gets. Keeping things loose.
But here it felt like things were getting touchy with feelings.
And with an air of dividing of politics.

 

[LostMy65]

 

[MrBirdman330]

I did some frequent traveling down to Kansas City and back in 2020. So I would drive by the Claycomo Plant. I can tell you at that time the finished but unfinished Trucks and Vans I saw was eye popping. I've considered taking another trip down just to see if they've made it to dealerships or are they still parked there waiting for a chip or two.

 

[Progeny2021]

Yeah, derailments can be fun and I know aren't such a big deal here in these forums. I actually appreciate the light modding this site gets. Keeping things loose.
But here it felt like things were getting touchy with feelings.
And with an air of dividing of politics.

We are living in exciting times.

Just read a news story about a gorgeous 27yo news anchor, engaged to be married, seemingly excellent family, no known issues, etc. commits 'suicide'?

Too convenient in this day and age. Any true news about the parts 'pipeline failure' or just more rehashed non news? Everything in this thread is inter related whether everyone wants to admit it or not.

I was surprised to read that a substantial number auto component suppliers were located in The Ukraine. Incredibly bad political situation there since 2014.

Farm products are finally being shipped from The Ukraine - when will auto components resume? I'm watching that situation keenly because our next world war will most likely start in the region.

Any truth about the Ukraine situation in the 'controlled media'? Little to none. Thinking European plants in every sector will be shutting down like dominoes shortly due to the energy situation.

Yet, America is shipping its fuel reserves every where else and not replacing them. Not hard to imagine where this is going....

 

[Sanctus Rimor]

Imposing modern mores on figures of the past makes all historic figures look bad.
Most were simply products of the society they lived in, no worse, no better.

Exactly.

We shouldn't let their "sins" overshadow their accomplishments, and their accomplishments shouldn't absolve them of their sins.

It's the historical figure that give the future generations the lessons to learn from.

Ford wasn't doing anything that that a million other Joe Nobodys were doing. The only difference is Ford was a public figure. Half my lineage is Jewish and I don't have a problem with it. Hell, I just might even swap my Ford logos for yellow stars.

 

[pbethel]

Exactly.

We shouldn't let their "sins" overshadow their accomplishments, and their accomplishments shouldn't absolve them of their sins.

It's the historical figure that give the future generations the lessons to learn from.

Ford wasn't doing anything that that a million other Joe Nobodys were doing. The only difference is Ford was a public figure. Half my lineage is Jewish and I don't have a problem with it. Hell, I just might even swap my Ford logos for yellow stars.

If it wasn't a sin then why should history castigate them now?
That's like making laws retroactive and punishing someone for what was legal when they did it.
"Let us topple all the statues and write all the heros out of the history books" said every oppressive regime ever.
Ford wasn't much different than the rich and powerful of his day. He just happened, like many of his contemporaries to hold beliefs that history has proven wrong. Or, in some cases just decreed them to be wrong.

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