Ford Ranger Lightning!

[12Bravo20]

I can see possibly getting a PHEV if they could get the towing capacity up to at least 5,000 pounds on the Ranger. I normally only tow around 2,000 pounds with the weight of trailer and UTV but am a firm believer of having at least double the towing capacity.

We can use the Maverick as an example when comparing towing capacity when it comes to PHEV and ICE models. The Maverick hybrid only has a towing capacity of 2,000 pounds while the Eco Boost model has a towing capacity of 4,000 pounds with the factory tow package.

I stil do not want an all electric vehicle. I live in the country and the nearest cities with hospitals is 50 to 60 miles away. And the nearest towns with better chopping are at least 20 to 30 miles away.. I love in Missouri. And distances are greater in western states.

And for all the comments about battery costs. I looked up the cost of Chevy Volt replacement batteries and they ranged from $16,000 to $20,000 just for the battery, labor was extra. Kelley Blue Book gives a private party value between $7,500 and $10,000 for a 2015 Chevy Volt. A replacement battery costs double what the car is worth.

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[FunInTheSun]

Hybrid is the way to go a given the current state of the art in engines and motors. I'm surprised nobody has yet revived the gas turbine engine as the prime mover coupled to a generator / battery storage unit, with an all-electric powertrain. The next real innovative step would be micro-sized nuclear powered hybrid EV, if they can work out the shielding issues.

 

[Texasota]

We can use the Maverick as an example when comparing towing capacity when it comes to PHEV and ICE models. The Maverick hybrid only has a towing capacity of 2,000 pounds while the Eco Boost model has a towing capacity of 4,000 pounds with the factory tow package.

I'm thinking the Maverick is not a good comparison. The Maverick hybrid is not a PHEV and it's hybrid system is the same as the Escape hybrid (i.e. an eCVT) which is great for MPG but not robust enough for significant towing.

A Ranger PHEV will have a hybrid system similar to the F-150 Powerboost which has excellent towing capacity. It will also have the Pro Power Onboard generator which is is so cool it keeps me awake at night.

 

[Kristina]

too bad nothing like a diesel ranger exists. oh wait they do. just cannot be sold in north america.

Meet my Chick Magnet. A diesel Ranger ?

Jealous?

Wait-wait-wait! Greta says “hello and good luck with keeping things green and DPF unclogged”

Still happy to have my tractor.
Remember development of mobile phone batteries? I’ll check the improvement of EV and PHEV trucks in 10 years.

 

[jflogerzi]

You really want Ford caught up in a VW scandal? Bad enough VW slaughtered any chance of Diesel trying to return to the non-HD market in the US.

Its already a done deal. Ford is sharing the new T6 platform so VW and Ford can build a Pickup Truck and VW group wants EV/PHEV version.

 

[MrBirdman330]

Its already a done deal. Ford is sharing the new T6 platform so VW and Ford can build a Pickup Truck and VW group wants EV/PHEV version.

I know and the only thing it should be is VW using the bones of the Ranger for the new Amorak and they can build their own PHEV.

Ford just should not think of any advanced type partnership because Dieselgate isn't the last of big scandals from VW and makers would be wise to watch their partnerships closely. It's bad enough it did serious harm to the non-HD Diesel market, no more Diesel Colorado, RAM 1500, Grand Cherokee, could have had a Diesel Cherokee also eventually as Diesel Grand Cherokees were popular. Mercedes, Land Rover, BMW basically killed their Diesels for the US market. I can't wait for Electricgate from VW. Grab the popcorn when it happens, it will be entertaining to say the least.

 

[12Bravo20]

I'm thinking the Maverick is not a good comparison. The Maverick hybrid is not a PHEV and it's hybrid system is the same as the Escape hybrid (i.e. an eCVT) which is great for MPG but not robust enough for significant towing.

A Ranger PHEV will have a hybrid system similar to the F-150 Powerboost which has excellent towing capacity. It will also have the Pro Power Onboard generator which is is so cool it keeps me awake at night.

Even so, the F150 is still not worth a darn when it comes to towing. Who wants to stop every 100 miles because their truck batteries are dead.

 

[Eoj]

It’ll probably only charge to 85% unless using foreskin to increase it and if you don’t the battery will be dead in 5 years. But it’ll work perfectly for the self repo

 

[LaBalbe]

Did it throw anyone else off that the narrator kept saying "F-One Hundred Fifty"? I've only ever heard it as "F-One Fifty" until this video. Inconsequential, I know, but it just sounded so odd to me....

 

[MrBirdman330]

Hybrid is the way to go a given the current state of the art in engines and motors. I'm surprised nobody has yet revived the gas turbine engine as the prime mover coupled to a generator / battery storage unit, with an all-electric powertrain. The next real innovative step would be micro-sized nuclear powered hybrid EV, if they can work out the shielding issues.

Unfortunately that idea doesn't work the way people think it does, Turbine Electric systems are not efficient in any aspect as to produce any real power the turbine has to really spin, 4k RPMS or more, that will A: Suck fuel like all Turbine Engines do and B: make a a crap load of noise like all Turbine Engines can do. To get an understanding look up Union Pacific's Gas Turbine Electric Locomotives aka the GTELs.

 

[Texasota]

Even so, the F150 is still not worth a darn when it comes to towing. Who wants to stop every 100 miles because their truck batteries are dead.

I assume you are referring to the F-150 Lightning (no ICE). The F-150 PowerBoost combines a twin-turbocharged 3.5-liter V-6 engine with a small 1.5 kWh lithium-ion battery pack and a 41-horsepower electric motor encapsulated inside the 10-speed automatic transmission. It is a conventional hybrid that cannot be plugged in as is the case with all conventional hybrid vehicles.

The F-150 PowerBoost's battery pack is charged solely by it's 3.5 Ecoboost and regenerative braking. This truck has excellent towing capability with towing range similar to the conventional F-150 with the 3.5 Ecoboost. Its HP and torque significantly exceed that of the standard F-150 with the 3.5 Ecoboost while at the same time getting better MPGs.

The Ranger PHEV's powertrain will be similar to the F-150 Powerboost except that it will be the 2.3 Ecoboost combined with a much larger battery pack that can be plugged in. That means the Ranger PHEV's battery pack can be charged by the 2.3 Ecoboost, regenerative braking and by plugging it in. It will be a towing beast and will not have the range restrictions that the F-150 Lightning does. I'm guessing the Ranger PHEV will have an all electric range of around 30-40 miles after which it will operate as a conventional hybrid.

 

[TOMDEE]

Don't try towing anything with a Ranger Lightning if they are anything like the F150 lightning. The F150 only has a range of about 100 miles when towing.

The whole push for all electric vehicles is ridiculous since our current power grid can't handle it. Look at California and some of the brownouts due to people trying to charge their vehicles at the same time.

IMAGINE TRYING TO EQUIP ALL THE UNDERGROUND PARKING GARAGES RELATED TO APARTMENT BUILDINGS, CONDO BUILDINGS AND OFFICE BUILDING WITH ENOUGH CHARGER FOR ALL? THERE'S NO WAY

 

[PL8SWPR]

Not interested until they can get a full charge in the time it takes me to fill a gas tank. Every long trip becomes 50% longer because of all the extended charging stops.

 

[9zero1790]

IMAGINE TRYING TO EQUIP ALL THE UNDERGROUND PARKING GARAGES RELATED TO APARTMENT BUILDINGS, CONDO BUILDINGS AND OFFICE BUILDING WITH ENOUGH CHARGER FOR ALL? THERE'S NO WAY

i agree it would be a very big challenge. at some point one has to wonder if this push is not just a plan made with intent of failure. it is not ev are a new thing or some untapped resource. the horse has been dead for a good while but its still being whipped lol.

 

[MrBirdman330]

Not interested until they can get a full charge in the time it takes me to fill a gas tank. Every long trip becomes 50% longer because of all the extended charging stops.

I had some stupid EV hugger tell me they could do 800 miles in a day with their Tesla, I laughed and then showed them the articles of a guy who used to drive from Cheyenne to Casper in about 2hrs in an ICE and now does it in in just under 14hrs because his Leaf can only go 80 miles before needing a recharge when it's range is 130 miles, along with the Ford Employee who with an F150 lighting admitted driving highway speeds drops range by 30% so he has to drive round trip 40 miles out of his way to charge when his Ecoboost F150 gets 600 miles on a tank. Of course the EV hugger had "excuses" to the articles I posted which were the fact they were not driving a Tesla. I told him keep trying and laughed.

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