Electric F150 Lightning

[RANGER_MARC]

Yeah, I bought a ranger thinking is was the small size truck. I knew it was bigger than before, but seeing some of the old tacos compared to the ranger is like, wow, they are tiny. I was beside a tundra at a stop light today and it seems a bit smaller than my ranger, or it seemed like it. I had a pre-taco toyota truck and the tundra was the 'full size' equivalent, or I thought. The f-150 is just HUGE compared to what it once was. I guess the ranger is the size of the old f-150s.

There are a couple of older F150s in my development, and every time I drive by them, I notice that they are just about the size of my 2019 Ranger (which will probably get even bigger in the next generation). I happen to like the Ranger's present size, and would not mind if they took it a bit bigger in future, but I understand that for some members, smaller is better....

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[RANGER_MARC]

The whole "power your house for three days" is a gimmick in my opinion. I have a 14kw Powerwall and I don't see it running my house for three solid days. It'll be interesting to see what the real starting price is once they hit the showrooms. Any idea what the truck weighs? Hadn't seen a stat on it.

You're entitled to your opinion. Texas resident Randy Jones might beg to differ about the "gimmick" part: Texas winter storm: Some use Ford F-150 hybrid trucks to power homes (cnbc.com) And he did it with a Powerboost hybrid--imagine what a full 150 EV could do....

 

[Joyride]

You're entitled to your opinion. Texas resident Randy Jones might beg to differ about the "gimmick" part: Texas winter storm: Some use Ford F-150 hybrid trucks to power homes (cnbc.com) And he did it with a Powerboost hybrid--imagine what a full 150 EV could do....

But as a generator, don't they have to run the truck itself? It's not all battery right?

 

[Tom_C]

There are a couple of older F150s in my development, and every time I drive by them, I notice that they are just about the size of my 2019 Ranger (which will probably get even bigger in the next generation). I happen to like the Ranger's present size, and would not mind if they took it a bit bigger in future, but I understand that for some members, smaller is better....

I like the size of the ranger now. I bought a SCAB because I don't need to haul 4 people and I wanted a truck, not a car with a 5' box attached. I hope the new rangers still offer a SCAB.

 

[Joyride]

1 powerwall is around 14kWh.
The truck is rumored to have 150-180 kWh in the long range.

Using 30kwh/day average that "should" last 3 days.

Ah okay, I understand now, and stand corrected. Cool tech based on this and what @RANGER_MARC showed me.

 

[RANGER_MARC]

But as a generator, don't they have to run the truck itself? It's not all battery right?

My understanding is that, with the Powerboost hybrids, the owner can draw electricity up to a certain battery level, at which point the truck turns on the engine, which allows it to generate more. With the EV, the power can be drawn freely up to a certain point, at which the truck asks the owner if he or she wants to continue. Ford is saying the EV will do this for three to ten days, depending on how heavy the pull is. I have no direct experience with either system, but it sounds valid, and I would love to have something like this the next time our power does down....

 

[AzScorpion]

Yeah, I bought a ranger thinking is was the small size truck. I knew it was bigger than before, but seeing some of the old tacos compared to the ranger is like, wow, they are tiny. I was beside a tundra at a stop light today and it seems a bit smaller than my ranger, or it seemed like it. I had a pre-taco toyota truck and the tundra was the 'full size' equivalent, or I thought. The f-150 is just HUGE compared to what it once was. I guess the ranger is the size of the old f-150s.

My first F150 was a "97 when the did the new redesign from the old square farmer looking ones. It actually came out in the spring of '96 and I bought a regular cab short bed which seems to be about the size of my Ranger now. Over the years they just got way to big and I'm just hoping the Ranger doesn't follow in it's footsteps. I was next to a new Tundra the other day up in Sedona and felt like I was next to the monster truck Bigfoot. lol

 

[Joyride]

My understanding is that, with the Powerboost hybrids, the owner can draw electricity up to a certain battery level, at which point the truck turns on the engine, which allows it to generate more. With the EV, the power can be drawn freely up to a certain point, at which the truck asks the owner if he or she wants to continue. Ford is saying the EV will do this for three to ten days, depending on how heavy the pull is. I have no direct experience with either system, but it sounds valid to me, and I would love to have something like this the next our power does down....

Okay, even with limitations it sounds like a good thing to have around...and portable! We've only had one major outage since owning the Powerwall and it worked flawlessly. Hell, I didn't know that there was an outage until my neighbor asked me about it haha.

 

[Texasota]

You're entitled to your opinion. Texas resident Randy Jones might beg to differ about the "gimmick" part: Texas winter storm: Some use Ford F-150 hybrid trucks to power homes (cnbc.com) And he did it with a Powerboost hybrid--imagine what a full 150 EV could do....

A Ranger PHEV is coming and it should be an even better platform for the Pro Power Onboard generator since it will likely have a battery pack somewhere around 20 kWh. For comparison, the Ford Escape PHEV has a 14.4 kWh pack that gives it 37 miles of EV driving before the ICE starts up. The Ranger PHEV will be an incredible generator for powering your house when the grid is down or providing power out in the boonies.

The Ranger PHEV is suppose to have 362 HP and 502 lb-ft of torque. It should run circles around any other Ranger including the Ranger Raptor with the 3.0 Ecoboost. I would expect it's 0-60 time to be close to the F-150 Lightning's 4.4 seconds.

In my opnion, a PHEV is the perfect and sensible compromise for the masses until the electrical grid, battery technology and public charging infrastructure can catch up.

The Ranger PHEV can't get here soon enough for me!

 

[Phik]

It looks great, but not gonna work for me yet. But in a few years I will be back in the US, and my Ranger will be getting older and I'll be interested in the second (or will it be the fourth?) gen Lightning. By then, I expect charging infrastructure to be better.

 

[VAMike]

So, in a multi-day power outage, you can power your home, but then what if you have to go somewhere and your battery is dead?

here in america, you'd use one of the other cars

 

[r1ch999999]

here in america, you'd use one of the other cars

If I had other cars

 

[HBird]

Honestly super happy Ford is introducing the EV version of the F-150 this early (I was expecting a premier a few years after the new F-150). Making an EV version of the #1 selling vehicle in the US has huge implications for public perception of EVs in general. More so than Tesla IMO since they're still considered a luxury vehicle by most folks.

I think the design is futuristic enough without going off the deep-end. Range is fine for most people, and if you expected more for a first generation product, I'm not sure what to tell you.

That being said, I'm a Rivian fanboy so if I was getting an EV truck, it would be one of those.

 

[ScrappyLaptop]

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At least Ford is somewhat serious about vehicle electrification but I think they should have waited until they had better battery tech to release the F150 Lightning.
230 miles range on small battery is pathetic for a truck. In the cold this will be maybe 125 miles.
Towing in cold may leave you with 50-75 mile range, then it will take 10 hours to recharge at level 2 charger. (240v at 48amp home charger) Ford is offering optional 80amp that shortens this down to less than 8 hours.

A think a Ranger or light duty SUV would have been much better suited for going electric first as you expect less towing/hauling from a ranger vs f150.

Currently we have to purchase & install / have installed the brake controller if we're going to tow big things. Maybe in the near future pickup trucks used for towing will also need an auxiliary battery pack that mounts in the bed. Seems like it would be a simply, easy solution. Want more range? Add a power pack. Want even more? Add two!

 

[VAMike]

If I had other cars

The average is about 2 cars per household, and there are a heck of a lot of people with no cars, suggesting that the average for people with cars is over 2. Certainly, the average for single family homes in the suburbs is greater than one. (None of this "plug in your truck to power your house" stuff applies to multi-unit residences, and I probably wouldn't want an electric car if I lived in the boonies at the end of a really long non-redundant rural line unless I had hella solar in which case the downed power line case is moot.) But I agree that if you are one of those with only the one truck, you probably shouldn't drain the entire battery without some plan for what to do next. And honestly, with just one vehicle, you're probably better off not jumping into the all-electric pool just yet. Which doesn't really impact f150 lightening sales, because they've got a pretty big target market even without the single-vehicle demographic.

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