Constant quality complaints in forum

[TJC]

FWIW, I am a member of several 4G Ranger forums and never bashed Ford at all. I am a member of the Maxima Forum and the Miata.net forum and have never bashed either of those manufacturers.

I have reserved that treatment for Ford due only to the current Ranger's lack of quality.

The transmission issue is just as real and worrisome as the driveshaft issue. I thought I had it licked when I changed the driveshaft. But it is back come the spring warm temps. I mentioned the parabolic rear spring and shocks as I believe they play a role in the shudder my truck had as the diff flexed during de/acceleration. I have no idea why it shook violently at and over 75mph.

I should have a PhD in truck manufacturing before purchasing a vehicle I suppose. Maybe with a minor specializing in 5G Ford Rangers.

I should have known about the warping AC air mix duct (this one has not affected me yet, but I keep the truck in a garage and out of the heat of day).

And all the other issues that have cropped up. The battery that goes dead ever so easily. The transmission that refuses to disengage when stopping, or jerks into gears when up or downshifting in the summer temps. Or nearly launching me into oncoming traffic with me frantically pushing the brake to the floor praying that it would disengage power.

Yes, all those things have happened to me driving my 2020 Ranger.

Trust me just a little bit, I am more upset about this truck then you are about my complaining about it.

None of us, not even you, knew everything about what you were purchasing prior to taking delivery.

So yes, you are correct in all that you wrote. Shame on me for trusting Ford to continue to make a solid Ranger.

I assure you, it won't happen again.

We each have our opinions, and I respect them all, even if I choose to disagree.

- T

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[Big Blue]

@TJC , it truly appears the your Ranger has had way more than its share of issues. You have every right to be upset. While my 2019 has not been perfect, neither has my wifes 2019 Mazda 3, it has been reliable and everything I expected. I have had no transmission issues other than some rough shifts on cold mornings. It has no startup shutter or vibration at highway speeds. I will need to grease the slip joint this summer. It has pulled my travel trailer out to California and back to Wisconsin. That was main reason I traded my 2011 Ranger XLT was to get the towing capacity. Yes, I was upset that Ford did not have a OEM trailer brake solution at rollout.

As I said, reading the complains do not upset me. It is the prevelent Ford bashing, across all threads not just you, that seems to be the direction so often taken. I also agree that Fords QC has taken a big hit lately. I would think that is is a problem for all manufacturers. I hate to use the excuse, COVID did cause a lot of issues for everyone. And we are still working our way through them.

I hope this experience does not completely sour you on Ford. I do understand your decision to try something else though.

 

[myothercarizahearse]

they are all garbage.
Just depends how much trash youre willing to accept to be happy.

Ranger Pride? is that you?

 

[TJC]

@TJC , it truly appears the your Ranger has had way more than its share of issues. You have every right to be upset. While my 2019 has not been perfect, neither has my wifes 2019 Mazda 3, it has been reliable and everything I expected. I have had no transmission issues other than some rough shifts on cold mornings. It has no startup shutter or vibration at highway speeds. I will need to grease the slip joint this summer. It has pulled my travel trailer out to California and back to Wisconsin. That was main reason I traded my 2011 Ranger XLT was to get the towing capacity. Yes, I was upset that Ford did not have a OEM trailer brake solution at rollout.

As I said, reading the complains do not upset me. It is the prevelent Ford bashing, across all threads not just you, that seems to be the direction so often taken. I also agree that Fords QC has taken a big hit lately. I would think that is is a problem for all manufacturers. I hate to use the excuse, COVID did cause a lot of issues for everyone. And we are still working our way through them.

I hope this experience does not completely sour you on Ford. I do understand your decision to try something else though.

None of what I said is personal. It is simple frustration. Every instance I mentioned above can be seen in my content - when it happened.

I want the truck to work out, I really do. I am hoping that the PPE pan corrects the transmission issues.

I may very well be spoiled by the extremely positive experience I have had with my 2005 Ranger. Ford set my expectations, and I am disappointed not to have the same experience with my 2020 Ranger.

It will work out one way or the other... and I will get over it.

Thank you for the explanation.

- T

 

[dtech]

Hey on the plus side the Ranger is still better in many aspects than the Tacoma, I think ford accomplished its objectives getting back into the mid sized truck market and didn't have to make a massive investment , and because of market conditions was able to get away with substantial decontenting. But stuff like the defective hvac box and removing the inexpensive engine cover is pretty shameful.

 

[TJC]

Hey on the plus side the Ranger is still better in many aspects than the Tacoma, I think ford accomplished its objectives getting back into the mid sized truck market and didn't have to make a massive investment , and because of market conditions was able to get away with substantial decontenting. But stuff like the defective hvac box and removing the inexpensive engine cover is pretty shameful.

I test drove the Tacoma and quickly ruled it out. The Ranger was heads above in performance, comfort, and visibility. It wasn't even a close contest.

 

[Trustable]

I honestly prefer that people do complain on here. Especially as the truck has been 4 years out now, potential new buyers can weigh the pros and cons, and potential used buyers are aware what to look for when buying. Maybe I am bias, as my opinion of ford has continuously dropped over the last several years, and dropped heavily the last year and a half, but I think complaints are more useful then just talking about how great the truck is. There is far more positive posts on here than negative, so I dont think its even close to a problem.

 

[ppfd]

Its a truck
I think a few of you equate them to living breathing beings.
And when a person spends lets say $40,000 of his own money he has every right to bitch, praise, break the windows out and set it on fire if they please.
I appreciate the platform given here to read about others issues and the encounters and repairs they have had.
I hope my posting of my issues will help another owner with fords "quality" or lack of.
Honestly, its the ones that name their vehicles and call them he or she that wireds me out.

 

[subquark]

Its a truck
I think a few of you equate them to living breathing beings.
And when a person spends lets say $40,000 of his own money he has every right to bitch, praise, break the windows out and set it on fire if they please.
I appreciate the platform given here to read about others issues and the encounters and repairs they have had.
I hope my posting of my issues will help another owner with fords "quality" or lack of.
Honestly, its the ones that name their vehicles and call them he or she that wireds me out.

LOL, you talkin' 'bout Soupie? =D

 

[FoD]

It's the tailgate bushing that's squeaking. Put some white lithium grease in there or a shot of silicone spray and it'll go away.

Bacon lard works better ...

 

[Fordup]

Bacon lard works better ...

But it attracts flies .

 

[Fitzmotor]

I can tell you why Honda has decent cars......

When a part is designed, there are manufacturing tolerances (obviously) Honda calls out very tight plus or minus tolerances.

Some vendors will not bid on a part as the QC rejection rate would be very high, and you would have 30-40% of the parts scrapped.

Not to mention, when a part does pass QC, the first articles are approved and production starts, Honda will come along and re-QC after the first 100 or 1000 are made and they will re-QC again at the 12 month mark.

The first articles are almost always spot on, the vendors know those must be good, but as production goes along the QC can slip and the 10,000 part made is outside the acceptable tolerances.

I cant speak for Ford, they should have similar processes in place, so maybe the drawings for Ford are not as tight (Duh)

A tight tolerance part is more expensive to Mfg than a loose tolerance part.

Seems like Ford has saved some money along the way.

 

[Jason B]

None of what I said is personal. It is simple frustration. Every instance I mentioned above can be seen in my content - when it happened.

I want the truck to work out, I really do. I am hoping that the PPE pan corrects the transmission issues.

I may very well be spoiled by the extremely positive experience I have had with my 2005 Ranger. Ford set my expectations, and I am disappointed not to have the same experience with my 2020 Ranger.

It will work out one way or the other... and I will get over it.

Thank you for the explanation.

- T

just a question: How wil a new trans pan, even if it's a 'performance' pan solve issues with the trans? Extra cooling, sure. But how is that going to alleviate shifting problems?

Its a truck
I think a few of you equate them to living breathing beings.
And when a person spends lets say $40,000 of his own money he has every right to bitch, praise, break the windows out and set it on fire if they please.
I appreciate the platform given here to read about others issues and the encounters and repairs they have had.
I hope my posting of my issues will help another owner with fords "quality" or lack of.
Honestly, its the ones that name their vehicles and call them he or she that wireds me out.

Very true. But go to any vehicle forum, Ford, Chevy, Toyota, etc. and you will hear the same sort of complaints and rants.

 

[Rocketeer61]

"Sorry but I believe we have some folks on here that would bitch about being given $100 bill if they had to walk across the room to get it."

We also have folks on here who bitch about discussions they don't have to read and can skip past.

It's a forum. A place to discuss things. Big or small things. Significant or insignificant things. You can start a topic on anything, and discuss it with whomever wants to be involved. Or you can start a topic, then disappear and not discuss it, as you have kinda done here. Similar to trolling.

Similar?

 

[Max Crafter]

I guess some people make mistakes

just a question: How wil a new trans pan, even if it's a 'performance' pan solve issues with the trans? Extra cooling, sure. But how is that going to alleviate shifting problems?

and is extra cooling a good thing?
there is an ideal temp for the trans to run at, will the pan change that? Will a different temp cause different problems? Only a transmission designer would know for certain.

The only benefit I see of a bigger pan is more oil available when you have a leak. Might be enough in there to get you off the highway, or even home before it dries up to an un-useable mess of garbage.

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