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Hey guys just wanted to see if anyone else was having an issue like this. I have read through some of the back-up cam threads and cant find any with my exact issue combination. Currently my back-up cam doesn't work at at all, nor does my blind spot monitor or cross traffic alerts. My back-up cam started becoming intermittent about a month ago, see the video below, and has since fully stopped working. I have pulled the C411 and C422 connectors and found no water intrusion or corrosion. I have a new back-up cam on order but the addition of the BLIS issue makes me think that it isn't just the camera. Any thoughts?

Back-Up Camera a month ago:


Issues currently:
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Without a scan and code to be sure, it’s most likely the camera itself - the tie in for all three is the camera displays - Cross Traffic which uses the SODL / SODR sensors, same sensors as Blind Spot, so both systems would be affected- Communication wise
 

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FYI -Replacing the camera requires it to be programmed- New LIN Initialization or you will have issues with getting it to work properly.
This can be done with Forscan or Scanner
 
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Without a scan and code to be sure, it’s most likely the camera itself - the tie in for all three is the camera displays - Cross Traffic which uses the SODL / SODR sensors, same sensors as Blind Spot, so both systems would be affected- Communication wise
I will grab the codes after work today and post them up.

FYI -Replacing the camera requires it to be programmed- New LIN Initialization or you will have issues with getting it to work properly.
This can be done with Forscan or Scanner
And I appreciate the heads-up on this. I have Forscan so shouldn't be an issue then.
 

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my driver mirror and tail light have been replaced and the brain never set for the new ones so I get the same two warnings on start for a year now, they don't seem to effect anything so I have just gotten use to clicking OK on every start, I would sooner or later like to figure out how to get it right
 


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Alright here is what we have:

First interesting thing is no communication to the SODR and SODL it seems.
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Here are the relevant codes to this issue. The code in the PCM is for EGR flow because, 5G Ranger:
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If I try to run a test on the SODL or SODR I just get an error.
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Sorry for the wall of pictures, I just want to have all of the info out there.
 

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Connector C408 located behind left rear quarter panel (in front of left rear tire) is common to the license plate light, bliss modules, and rear camera circuits. It is a 34 pin connector. Maybe there is a problem with that connector (corrosion, water?).
 
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Connector C408 located behind left rear quarter panel (in front of left rear tire) is common to the license plate light, bliss modules, and rear camera circuits. It is a 34 pin connector. Maybe there is a problem with that connector (corrosion, water?).
That seems to be the one right next to C422 on the frame, I can pull that one and check it also tomorrow.
 

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Yes, C408 ties all fault codes together.
Power feed for the BLIS (Left/Right)
Rear Camera Power
License Plate Light Power

Power is from the DC/DC Convertor for this circuit, Fuse = (Fuse 23 in the BJB-Engine Bay), but no other related circuit codes noted, the highly suspect point is C408 for the power feed for the BLIS and Camera.

The License Plate Lights are on a separate circuit (power feed) but share that connector C408

The (U) & (C) Codes are for the Data Loss from those inputs

The only code that does not tie into that connector (C408) is for the High Mount Stop Lamp
B1115:15 - I would clear the other faults then check that out if still an issue.
 
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Yes, C408 ties all fault codes together.
Power feed for the BLIS (Left/Right)
Rear Camera Power
License Plate Light Power

Power is from the DC/DC Convertor for this circuit, Fuse = (Fuse 23 in the BJB-Engine Bay), but no other related circuit codes noted, the highly suspect point is C408 for the power feed for the BLIS and Camera.

The License Plate Lights are on a separate circuit (power feed) but share that connector C408

The (U) & (C) Codes are for the Data Loss from those inputs

The only code that does not tie into that connector (C408) is for the High Mount Stop Lamp
B1115:15 - I would clear the other faults then check that out if still an issue.
Cool, appreciate the help! I will check the C408 connector after work today. The High Mount Stop Lamp code has been around from before. I have the OEM Ford brake controller which ties into the high mount stop lamp for its signal, which I assume is what is causing that code.
 
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Referencing your diagram from one of the other back up cam threads @airline tech I am still slightly confused on the connector location. In the diagram it shows 3 connectors and they are positioned transverse relative to the truck, I can't find anything like that. I have assumed that C422 and C408/410 are these two on the inside of the frame rail. If that is correct neither of these connectors had any indication of water or debris intrusion or any corrosion. I checked fuse 23 in the BJB for good measure but it is fine.

Diagram:
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Two connectors on my truck:
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Referencing your diagram from one of the other back up cam threads @airline tech I am still slightly confused on the connector location. In the diagram it shows 3 connectors and they are positioned transverse relative to the truck, I can't find anything like that. I have assumed that C422 and C408/410 are these two on the inside of the frame rail. If that is correct neither of these connectors had any indication of water or debris intrusion or any corrosion. I checked fuse 23 in the BJB for good measure but it is fine.

Diagram:
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There is a ground connection (G401) that is located behind the top of the arch for the left wheel well. Make sure that it is tight and clean.
 
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There is a ground connection (G401) that is located behind the top of the arch for the left wheel well. Make sure that it is tight and clean.
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Is this the one you are talking about? This is driver side front wheel well. It looks dirty from my undercoat but they are tight. I didn't see any ground on the driver side rear.
 

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Is this the one you are talking about? This is driver side front wheel well. It looks dirty from my undercoat but they are tight. I didn't see any ground on the driver side rear.
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No, it is shown above the left rear wheel arch in the electrical diagram.
Another question, is the electrical connector for removing the tailgate securely connected?
 
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No, it is shown above the left rear wheel arch in the electrical diagram.
Another question, is the electrical connector for removing the tailgate securely connected?
Gotcha I will go look. Side note, where are you getting the electrical diagrams? I searched for some on google for the ranger and couldn't find one like you have there. And good idea on the tailgate connector, I haven't ever taken that off but I also haven't checked it. Will report back.
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