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2020 XLT with an Unleashed 93 tune, driven hard at times, but nothing crazy, no accidents, 34k miles, bought after my own lease.

Living in Michigan, have owned my truck for a few winters now and have experienced the clunky shifting in the early gears during colder months. I have had a 5 Star tune and as of about 8 months ago an Unleashed tune, so I have also experienced the difference between stock shifting and tuned shifting. As of about a month to two ago my transmission has been doing something compltely new and is missing(?) 2nd gear for the first 15 or so minutes of driving. When I shift into drive 1st gear opporates normally but when 2nd attempts to initiate the truck goes into a neutral state and revs with the throttle. The truck will eventually shift into 2nd gear after coasting roughly 0.5 to 2.5 seconds. I have learned to ease off the throttle as I anticiapte the truck is about to shift into 2nd and have found that to be beneficial in a more smooth shift when it finally engages into 2nd. Sometimes my residual throttle from accelerating through 1st will continue as the truck goes into neutral and the shift into 2nd will be slightly rough, but never anything that made me really worried.

As I mentioned earlier I have a tune on the truck and I have read through many threads on these forums about our transmission and the shifting, tunes and their impact on shifting, Misfitoy's transmission story, Torquerules tuning story. That being said I have tried removing the tune to stock, reset the adaptive learning, reset the keep alive memory, and tried reinstalling the tune to relearn shifting patterns. All of this with no measurable improvement. Am I missing anything related to the tuner to try?

I have let the truck warm up for quite some time before driving and also started driving immediately after starting it, finding similar results with possibly a slight improvement when it has been idling. The weirdest part about this to me is that the shift from 1st to 2nd will slowly improve back to completely normal after about 15 minutes. Once I feel it start to enage into 2nd more smoothly it only takes a couple more shifts, or maybe time (or temperature?), then it is opperating as if I never knew the problem existed. If I turn the engine off for a shorter amouint of time (have not tested this too much, but maybe up to an hour or so in the cold?) then turn it back on and start to drive, it will generally be just fine. All of this anecdotal information has led me to think temperature has something to do with it, but it just seems so extreme that it is quite worrisome.
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mine does that. 1-3 or 1-2. then coming back down to a stop at 5, 3, 1. the transmissions in the 5g have issues. mines started when the truck was bone stock and around 20k miles. tried all the typical stuff and its not fixed or improving. if one really wants to feel the lag and thud start it up and push the tow haul button before moving at all then try to drive away nice and gentle like normal leave the driveway residential street speed. you will get the long hang between gears "slipping" then eventually boom, thuds into second gear... of course ford dealer said thats normal for the 5g rangers lol.
 
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$6,000...don't ask me how I know...
Yeah, my title was a hopeful thought, definitely sounds similar to your story. Have you had any issues with the new tranny? Forgive me, I have not read your full thread but is there a new transmission they are using? Also what was your reasoning fo replacing the DPFE sensor?
 
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Yeah, my title was a hopeful thought, definitely sounds similar to your story. Have you had any issues with the new tranny? Forgive me, I have not read your full thread but is there a new transmission they are using? Also what was your reasoning fo replacing the DPFE sensor?
Knock on wood...I'm at 16K with new trans and everything seems just fine...although I still have PTSD from prior failure so an light bump in any gear gives me chills...But...I think I have a newer 23 pallet transmission and hope that the same bugs won't follow me...what ever the case, it has 3 year, unlimited mile warranty...it's one year old now so two more to go lol...

The DPFE sensor is a completely different issue...that part failure causes surging/bucking at lower speeds and unrelated to the transmission failure issues although many people conflate the two...
 


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Knock on wood...I'm at 16K with new trans and everything seems just fine...although I still have PTSD from prior failure so an light bump in any gear gives me chills...But...I think I have a newer 23 pallet transmission and hope that the same bugs won't follow me...what ever the case, it has 3 year, unlimited mile warranty...it's one year old now so two more to go lol...

The DPFE sensor is a completely different issue...that part failure causes surging/bucking at lower speeds and unrelated to the transmission failure issues although many people conflate the two...
Apprecite it. As I read through your old thread and a couple others it seems like there are several people with the same or similar issues. Have you heard of anyone getting things straightened out with a repair/rebuild? I see people reporting the issue earlier, but I'm not finding their followups.
 

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Mine was doing this and got rebuilt under warranty. It would feel like a major “slip” between the shifts and eventually shift so hard the rear end would bang and sometimes one rear tire would squeal.

Post rebuild, I have had none of this 1-2 second “stuck between gears” feeling and it shifts super smoothly now.

I can also select Reverse without feeling like I am going to take off with a bang or spin a tire.

At least for my truck, rebuild was the answer.
 

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I would see if you can add an extended warranty... but a new trans does seem to be something your gonna need sooner rather than later
 

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Mine was doing this and got rebuilt under warranty. It would feel like a major “slip” between the shifts and eventually shift so hard the rear end would bang and sometimes one rear tire would squeal.

Post rebuild, I have had none of this 1-2 second “stuck between gears” feeling and it shifts super smoothly now.

I can also select Reverse without feeling like I am going to take off with a bang or spin a tire.

At least for my truck, rebuild was the answer.
How much was your rebuild if you don't mind disclosing? And how long did it take?
 

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2020 with less than 60,000 miles. I would at least attempt to have it checked under warranty. That said Ford might get curious
 

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When you say 'colder months', just how cold are you noticing the issue?
Also, I'm not sure about modern transmissions, but in older ones, warming up the engine didn't do anything to warm up the transmission fluid. Only having the vehicle in motion would warmup/thin out the fluid.
 
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I have the same issue with my 2022 XLT with 21,000 miles and factory tune. It only happens when I go uphill when I leave my driveway. Never happens going down hill. I have to lay off the throttle when it pauses or the backend jerks and bangs.
This summer I had issues with hard shifting and followed a YouTube video to clear the PCM and that worked. No issues since.

 

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I would see if you can add an extended warranty... but a new trans does seem to be something your gonna need sooner rather than later
I'd have to dig into the specifics, but I think ESP's won't cover problems on a truck with 'unauthorized'
tunes. I'm not 100% sure that the standard warranty will cover it.
 

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I'd have to dig into the specifics, but I think ESP's won't cover problems on a truck with 'unauthorized'
tunes. I'm not 100% sure that the standard warranty will cover it.
That is pretty much any extended warranty. Best part is there isn't a single aftermarket tune(even the Ford Performance) that is technically considered Authorized since the only Authorized tune would be the Factory Tune
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