Alignment issues

[Larry2305]

Had my ranger at a new shop today to get a second opinion on an alignment.

My old shop said it was fine and didn't need an alignment even tho my old tires were wearing horribly on the inner toe. They didn't print out an copy of alignment and sent me on my way. Thats when I knew I need to go somewhere else.

I'm not too educated on alignment specs. Does everything look okay here. Truck seems to be driving better now after having it aligned at the new shop.

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[Larry2305]

Haha forgot to attach picture

 

[airline tech]

Numbers look Great now, the Before (-Toe) or Tow Out was the cause of your inner tire wear.
Good call on a second opinion as the first shop (missed) this or they never hooked up the heads.

 

[Dahveed]

I would agree. Looks great now. All of that negative toe on the front was definitely eating tires. Negative front toe angles mean the tires were running like this:

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[harringtondav]

I agree with above replies. You're golden now.
...curious how your toe on both frt wheels got off. Seems unusual. Hard curb side hits have caused my past alignment problems with toe and camber on one wheel. These cars had smaller strut aligned wheels. The Ranger is a tough beast.

 

[Frenchy]

Though the numbers look good, you need a little bit more Toe in. Why? Because when you get in the truck, the suspension will compress and the Toe will go out. That can affect the inner tire wear as you mentioned.

Also though it is very minimal, the negative Camber is also affecting that. Thankfully all are adjustable.

 

[Grandaccess]

Had my ranger at a new shop today to get a second opinion on an alignment.

My old shop said it was fine and didn't need an alignment even tho my old tires were wearing horribly on the inner toe. They didn't print out an copy of alignment and sent me on my way. Thats when I knew I need to go somewhere else.

I'm not too educated on alignment specs. Does everything look okay here. Truck seems to be driving better now after having it aligned at the new shop.

When I bought my truck about a year ago it only had 10k on it and all the aftermarket stuff like lift and tires were done at the dealer, and I don't trust dealers to even change oil I took it to a Mr.Tire in upstate NY for an alignment, they guy doing it couldn't speak English, that should have been my first warning and within 4000 miles the new tires were F***ING bald!
to bring it back and complain is useless because they can just blame it on an aftermarket lift and tires so I just took it to a Big-E-Tires and was talking to the guys there, they all seemed to be 4x4 guys and looked out the window and said yep you are out by .xx so I bought new tires and they did the alignment it drives like a dream now and ZERO ware in the last 25k
its hard to find people to trust now days, not a cheap lesson to learn but here we are.....

 

[harringtondav]

Good alignment shops are rare. It takes good equipment and knowledgeable techs.
We have an outstanding shop close. Been in business 60 yrs. One of the original owners lined up race cars at Indy. ....reckon not to passenger car specs.
I shy away from general purpose shops that have an alignment rack. Most don't have a dedicated alignment tech. Parts is parts.

 

[Muscleford]

I had my truck leveled last January. The shop that did the level sent it to the shop that does alignments for them. Then in August I had it in the dealer for an oil change and they offered a free alignment check. They said the toe was off, I was surprised. So my question is what is the reccomended toe for our trucks?

Thanks

 

[harringtondav]

Per the OP's picture toe is nominally zero, camber essentially the same.
The FWD cars I've owned were very slightly toe-out, or negative toe. I reckon this is because the front wheels are pulling the vehicle and may move toe-in under load. The tolerances would accept a toe of zero angle.
So in general if you are at zero both toe and camber you are good. Chasing a tenth of a degree with coarse tie rod threads is futile. ....the lock nut can change things a bit.

 

[airline tech]

I had my truck leveled last January. The shop that did the level sent it to the shop that does alignments for them. Then in August I had it in the dealer for an oil change and they offered a free alignment check. They said the toe was off, I was surprised. So my question is what is the reccomended toe for our trucks?

Thanks

Toe Specs are: (0.00 +/- 0.10) Deg with an offset tolerance of (0.00 +/- 0.20) Deg
You want to set each side as close to (0.00) as possible some techs like to set (+0.01) each side, this gives a slight (+) Toe In.
Too much of an offset (although) in spec will make the steering wheel center (offset)
Keep in mind that not all alignment machines will be (exact) equal - different manufactures, calibration variance etc. plus the alignment heads, Tire Press and Tread Depths all factor into what the (alignment) readings are.

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