2022 transmission needs "overhaul" - just left the dealer.

[CP0861]

Where's that guy who said we were a bunch of whiners? These posts just keep coming...

That's part of the reason I posted this. I know there are a bunch of transmission threads, but I wanted to point out that my symptoms weren't necessarily major (no codes, no failures) but at the same time, it never felt right to me. My driving is very consistent, yet the issues are sporadic....can't be normal. I think a lot of people are simply tolerating a lot of the nuances....and they're gonna regret that in a few years when they're out of warranty and the transmission takes a complete dump.

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[Msfitoy]

That's part of the reason I posted this. I know there are a bunch of transmission threads, but I wanted to point out that my symptoms weren't necessarily major (no codes, no failures) but at the same time, it never felt right. I think a lot of people are simply tolerating a lot of the nuances....and they're gonna regret that in a few years when they're out of warranty and the transmission takes a complete dump.

Sometimes, there's actually zero symptoms before a big dump...it just can't hold it in anymore by 95,000 miles...time to go...

 

[Rocketeer61]

That's part of the reason I posted this. I know there are a bunch of transmission threads, but I wanted to point out that my symptoms weren't necessarily major (no codes, no failures) but at the same time, it never felt right to me. My driving is very consistent, yet the issues are sporadic....can't be normal. I think a lot of people are simply tolerating a lot of the nuances....and they're gonna regret that in a few years when they're out of warranty and the transmission takes a complete dump.

Exactly. Sucks To Be You will probably be the official catchphrase by then. Unofficially, it already is.

 

[Rhino]

I have a 2022 Ranger. I juuust went over 30K miles. Within the last 5-10K miles, I've experienced 4-6 HARD clunking shifts from P to D and noticeably awkward shifts around 22-24 mph and 42-44 mph (both accelerating and decelerating). Also, sometimes when I first start it, it revs high and is then much, MUCH less responsive to the throttle when first moving in D.

I was due for an oil change and when I scheduled it a few weeks back, I asked if someone could also check out my transmission (and I described the issues above). They said they had 1 transmission specialist who was booked weeks out...fortunately, I didn't desperately need the oil change and I was able to wait and book with him.

I took it in today. I had it serviced and had them do a diff drain/fill. For the transmission, I honestly assumed they wouldn't be able to duplicate any of the issues and they'd hand it back to me saying they couldn't find anything....however, that was not actually the case.

To my surprise, the service advisor told me that I'd have to come back because they needed to order parts to "overhaul the transmission". He also mentioned a TSB. When I asked him specifically what the issue was, he didn't have any answers...said he was new to Ford from a Chrysler dealer and he only knew that they were seeing some issues with those 10 speed transmissions.

I got the invoice and it just says "ORDERED PARTS TO OVERHAUL TRANSMISSION."

So as crazy as it may seem, I still have no idea what the problem is. He said it was safe to drive. I didn't push for more answers....the place was busy as hell and I was honestly shocked they found anything. They'll call me back when the parts are in and they said I would be in a loaner vehicle....so it's not a quick fix.

I'll post more details when I get them, but long story short, if you're having ANY of my issues described above.....I'd recommend speaking up at your next service. I was certain they wouldn't find anything, but obviously they did. I almost didn't even bother saying anything.....

On a related side note - while I was in the waiting area, I also heard them take a call from someone with a 2023 Expedition that wouldn't shift. The owner just bought it a month ago. The service advisor who took the call told the lady to bring it in, they'll look at it today. After the call, other advisors told him to be careful with that, they only have 1 transmission guy and he's booked weeks out. If they bring in someone who calls today, they've bumped someone who's been waiting for weeks. Ford has a very obvious customer service issue. I understood both sides of the debate....valid points to both, but it's pretty F'ing sad to think that someone with a month old vehicle that won't shift could potentially have to wait WEEKS for it even to be looked at. Meanwhile, I was there for a non-emergency issue. They need some sort of emergency rating scale. Again, like I said, their customer service needs help....badly. And call me crazy, but if the dealer employs a staff of "service advisors" (they had several) you would think the issue could be explained to the customer! But nope, he basically just read whatever the tech typed up on the invoice. I've now experienced this at both local dealers I've gone to.

Also, I was chatting with another Ranger owner down in OBX NC last week....Lloyd (from Northern VA), if you're reading this, we were just talking about this! They ACTUALLY found something. Just don't know what yet....haha.

so ive had a few hard shifts but ive also noticed if i leave my truck alone for a few hours and go out and start it (without remote start) and just put it in gear to go it will rev up to a few k and not move but an inch until it warms up? i havent taken mine in yet since i only have one vehicle thats driveable and im only at 22k miles...

 

[CP0861]

so ive had a few hard shifts but ive also noticed if i leave my truck alone for a few hours and go out and start it (without remote start) and just put it in gear to go it will rev up to a few k and not move but an inch until it warms up? i havent taken mine in yet since i only have one vehicle thats driveable and im only at 22k miles...

Yeah, I've definitely experienced that....not all of the time, but somewhat regularly.

I feel like the hard shifts have become more common since I hit 20K miles. Either that, or I started paying closer attention then. Several HARD shifts from P to D when first going. When it happens, even with my foot on the brake, you can feel it (and hear it) slam into to gear. It actually startled my kid a couple of times! Haha. That HARD P->D shift has happened 4-8 times in the last 6-7K miles.

 

[Rhino]

Yeah, I've definitely experienced that....not all of the time, but somewhat regularly.

I feel like the hard shifts have become more common since I hit 20K miles. Either that, or I started paying closer attention then. Several HARD shifts from P to D when first going. When it happens, even with my foot on the brake, you can feel it (and hear it) slam into to gear. It actually startled my kid a couple of times! Haha. That's HARD shift has happened 5-10 times. Not all the time, but every now and then.

thats how mine has been where i have felt it and put the truck back in park and back to drive to see if it would do it again.. the not moving is so odd thou.... my driveway is behind my house and i have a small hill and the dang thing yesterday after 2 hours of not being moved refused to move but creep until it warmed up? then it moved like normal.... so idk makes me wonder if i should get it checked

 

[5thranger]

I have a 2022 Ranger. I juuust went over 30K miles. Within the last 5-10K miles, I've experienced 4-6 HARD clunking shifts from P to D and noticeably awkward shifts around 22-24 mph and 42-44 mph (both accelerating and decelerating). Also, sometimes when I first start it, it revs high and is then much, MUCH less responsive to the throttle when first moving in D.

I was due for an oil change and when I scheduled it a few weeks back, I asked if someone could also check out my transmission (and I described the issues above). They said they had 1 transmission specialist who was booked weeks out...fortunately, I didn't desperately need the oil change and I was able to wait and book with him.

I took it in today. I had it serviced and had them do a diff drain/fill. For the transmission, I honestly assumed they wouldn't be able to duplicate any of the issues and they'd hand it back to me saying they couldn't find anything....however, that was not actually the case.

To my surprise, the service advisor told me that I'd have to come back because they needed to order parts to "overhaul the transmission". He also mentioned a TSB. When I asked him specifically what the issue was, he didn't have any answers...said he was new to Ford from a Chrysler dealer and he only knew that they were seeing some issues with those 10 speed transmissions.

I got the invoice and it just says "ORDERED PARTS TO OVERHAUL TRANSMISSION."

So as crazy as it may seem, I still have no idea what the problem is. He said it was safe to drive. I didn't push for more answers....the place was busy as hell and I was honestly shocked they found anything. They'll call me back when the parts are in and they said I would be in a loaner vehicle....so it's not a quick fix.

I'll post more details when I get them, but long story short, if you're having ANY of my issues described above.....I'd recommend speaking up at your next service. I was certain they wouldn't find anything, but obviously they did. I almost didn't even bother saying anything.....

On a related side note - while I was in the waiting area, I also heard them take a call from someone with a 2023 Expedition that wouldn't shift. The owner just bought it a month ago. The service advisor who took the call told the lady to bring it in, they'll look at it today. After the call, other advisors told him to be careful with that, they only have 1 transmission guy and he's booked weeks out. If they bring in someone who calls today, they've bumped someone who's been waiting for weeks. Ford has a very obvious customer service issue. I understood both sides of the debate....valid points to both, but it's pretty F'ing sad to think that someone with a month old vehicle that won't shift could potentially have to wait WEEKS for it even to be looked at. Meanwhile, I was there for a non-emergency issue. They need some sort of emergency rating scale. Again, like I said, their customer service needs help....badly. And call me crazy, but if the dealer employs a staff of "service advisors" (they had several) you would think the issue could be explained to the customer! But nope, he basically just read whatever the tech typed up on the invoice. I've now experienced this at both local dealers I've gone to.

Also, I was chatting with another Ranger owner down in OBX NC last week....Lloyd (from Northern VA), if you're reading this, we were just talking about this! They ACTUALLY found something. Just don't know what yet....haha.

Do you purchase lottery tickets?

 

[CP0861]

Do you purchase lottery tickets?

Funny you mention that. I purchased some on my way home from vacation this past Friday...chasing that $750M powerball. No winners. I always buy tickets in different states on my way home from vacation....so I can ride home dreaming of buying a beach house.

I think I'll pick up a few more!! Some asshole has to win!! haha

 

[5thranger]

Funny you mention that. I purchased some on my way home from vacation this past Friday...chasing that $750M powerball. No winners. I always buy tickets in different states on my way home from vacation....so I can ride home dreaming of buying a beach house.

I think I'll pick up a few more!! Some asshole has to win!! haha

Your luck at the dealership with the transmission demands that you purchase more.

 

[Squatchranger]

so ive had a few hard shifts but ive also noticed if i leave my truck alone for a few hours and go out and start it (without remote start) and just put it in gear to go it will rev up to a few k and not move but an inch until it warms up? i havent taken mine in yet since i only have one vehicle thats driveable and im only at 22k miles...

Take it in, the sooner the better.

 

[Squatchranger]

My reading of transmission issues on the 10R80 ultimately came down to the failure of the previous design CDF drum seals. If that component aline was replaced my confidence in the transmission would be high.

They replaced my CDF drum completely, do you know if theyve rectified the design issues with newer versions?

 

[Racket]

They replaced my CDF drum completely, do you know if theyve rectified the design issues with newer versions?

That's been the prognosis from multiple transmission shops with YouTube channels and discussions on multiple forums. Sometime in late 2022 I think all 10R80s were manufactured using the new design. It's the same part number as the original but with an 'A' at the end.

 

[Tim H.]

I have a 2022 Ranger. I juuust went over 30K miles. Within the last 5-10K miles, I've experienced 4-6 HARD clunking shifts from P to D and noticeably awkward shifts around 22-24 mph and 42-44 mph (both accelerating and decelerating). Also, sometimes when I first start it, it revs high and is then much, MUCH less responsive to the throttle when first moving in D.

I was due for an oil change and when I scheduled it a few weeks back, I asked if someone could also check out my transmission (and I described the issues above). They said they had 1 transmission specialist who was booked weeks out...fortunately, I didn't desperately need the oil change and I was able to wait and book with him.

I took it in today. I had it serviced and had them do a diff drain/fill. For the transmission, I honestly assumed they wouldn't be able to duplicate any of the issues and they'd hand it back to me saying they couldn't find anything....however, that was not actually the case.

To my surprise, the service advisor told me that I'd have to come back because they needed to order parts to "overhaul the transmission". He also mentioned a TSB. When I asked him specifically what the issue was, he didn't have any answers...said he was new to Ford from a Chrysler dealer and he only knew that they were seeing some issues with those 10 speed transmissions.

I got the invoice and it just says "ORDERED PARTS TO OVERHAUL TRANSMISSION."

So as crazy as it may seem, I still have no idea what the problem is. He said it was safe to drive. I didn't push for more answers....the place was busy as hell and I was honestly shocked they found anything. They'll call me back when the parts are in and they said I would be in a loaner vehicle....so it's not a quick fix.

I'll post more details when I get them, but long story short, if you're having ANY of my issues described above.....I'd recommend speaking up at your next service. I was certain they wouldn't find anything, but obviously they did. I almost didn't even bother saying anything.....

On a related side note - while I was in the waiting area, I also heard them take a call from someone with a 2023 Expedition that wouldn't shift. The owner just bought it a month ago. The service advisor who took the call told the lady to bring it in, they'll look at it today. After the call, other advisors told him to be careful with that, they only have 1 transmission guy and he's booked weeks out. If they bring in someone who calls today, they've bumped someone who's been waiting for weeks. Ford has a very obvious customer service issue. I understood both sides of the debate....valid points to both, but it's pretty F'ing sad to think that someone with a month old vehicle that won't shift could potentially have to wait WEEKS for it even to be looked at. Meanwhile, I was there for a non-emergency issue. They need some sort of emergency rating scale. Again, like I said, their customer service needs help....badly. And call me crazy, but if the dealer employs a staff of "service advisors" (they had several) you would think the issue could be explained to the customer! But nope, he basically just read whatever the tech typed up on the invoice. I've now experienced this at both local dealers I've gone to.

Also, I was chatting with another Ranger owner down in OBX NC last week....Lloyd (from Northern VA), if you're reading this, we were just talking about this! They ACTUALLY found something. Just don't know what yet....haha.

Take it for a second opinion!

 

[Grandaccess]

I have a 21 with only 20k on it but have not had any issues with the tranny, I always use sport mode or trailer to raise the shift RPMs, trailer mode kind of does the same thing and kills two birds by turning off the engine start/stop

 

[Squatchranger]

That's been the prognosis from multiple transmission shops with YouTube channels and discussions on multiple forums. Sometime in late 2022 I think all 10R80s were manufactured using the new design. It's the same part number as the original but with an 'A' at the end.

Oh thank god, hopefully they put the fixed version in mine. Fingers crossed, I'll have to look back through my paperwork to see if i can determine it

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