Is this true? MUST finish drain and refill in 10 mins or RISK involved

[SemperVee]

Just watched this and wonder if this affects us in North America?

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[VAMike]

yes, there are diy oil change nutbags in north america

 

[u wish u could ride]

I don’t think they use our 2.3 in I think it’s a diesel? Or v 6

 

[I_smell_like_diesel]

Just a simple lesson to never assume you know everything! I was instructed in trade school to always refer to all the resources available to you. All our tests were open book because of this. I have see stuff like this first hand....


I worked with an old school mechanic about 8 years ago. He was given an oil change and brake inspection on a second gen Ford Focus. He was doing his job inspecting the whole car and found it had a front main seal leak. He up-sold the customer on it and they bought the job. Instead of looking up the proper procedure, he just started busting everything apart. He started pulling the crankshaft pulley off, heard a ratcheting/slipping noise, and thought nothing of it. He finished the job and started the car but it wouldn't start. We found that the crankshaft is not keyed and uses a metallurgical friction fit to hold the timing chain sprocket in place. The engine was damaged beyond repair, due to damage to the cylinder head and pistons. He ruined an engine because he just assumed every engine is built like and old school American V8.


Assuming, will at the very least, make an a$$ out of yourself and maybe other people too

 

[lohchief]

I'm an old harley wrench.Built them,fixed them,rode them,owned my own shop. My rule of thumb: ALWAYS use the shop manual. Nobody remembers everything.

 

[chuck stein]

Do any Ranger models manuals actually say "if you leave the oil pan empty for more than 10min you have to follow this specific priming procedure"?

see https://www.ford.com.au/owners/owne...rm-overlay/owner-download-manual-overlay.html

 

[chuck stein]

This issue appears to be normal for Ford's DuraTorq diesel engines !! No self priming pump !!



As the comments on the video say, very dumb design. How could you prime the pump if it fully drained out? I guess Ford just tells everyone to "move fast" when changing the filter?

 

[SemperVee]

Just an FYI I found. My whole adult vehicle owning life I ALWAYS did my own oil changes but it was a leap of faith to begin with anyway - going with this engine as I have always been a Chevy V8 Guy. Had my Avalanche 15 years, but I really like my Ranger. My XLT came with 3 years of oil changes at no cost to me (That I know of) It wasn't on the contract to purchase I signed. When I questioned it and said I would rather have the $398 they charged back to service for it they said they backed out of their cost and it was a present to me, no charge. Use it or not, no difference. So with 6-7 quarts of mobile 1 and a oil filter is on them for awhile... :^)

 

[Marshal.]

Because they didn’t. It doesn’t apply to the 2.3 EcoBoost

 

[P. A. Schilke]

Hi Folks,

We do not own Mazda, so not applicable.

I change my own oil...even my Cat C7, which takes 19 quarts of oil... I have all day as a retired person...although I have to say the cranky 70 old body complains about sliding under the truck....sigh!

Best,
Phil Schilke
Ranger Vehicle Engineering
Ford Motor Co. Retired

 

[Dropper]

thanks for your sacrifice for our freedom and democracy.

 

[P. A. Schilke]

I also would like to thank you for your service to this country!

best,
Phil Schilke
Ranger Vehicle Engineering
Ford Motor Co. Retired

 

[lohchief]

Welcome home brother,and thank you for your service. I flew two tours in Vietnam,and on my first I was in a bad crash,(engine failure). It compressed my spine/neck,and broke my left shoulder. When taken to the evac,without xrays they pronounced it was 'muscle strain'. I was prior to that crash 5'11 1/2 "'s.After it I was 5' 10 1/2"'s. My spine got compressed bigtime. Fast forward almost 48 years and the VA finally fixed my back. Now I'm 5' 8",with titanium rods running almost the length of my spine. Two on each side,and a bunch of other hardware. My back is now a 'boxed frame',my neck,can't be fixed. I can't even change my own oil anymore let alone ride scoots etc. But being CAV,after 30 days I went back to flying,and flew a second tour. A few years after I got out,the VA totaled me,100% sc/p&t. Weird,but true.

 

[THLONE]

Back in the day old international Diesel engines were required to fill the filter with new oil before installing. I didnt do that on my Ford Diesel International with no problems. As long as you do the refill and start up soon, while the residual oil is still on the bearings. I always watch the oil pressure when starting to make sure that the pressure builds quick.

 

[chuck stein]

Back in the day old international Diesel engines were required to fill the filter with new oil before installing. I didnt do that on my Ford Diesel International with no problems. As long as you do the refill and start up soon, while the residual oil is still on the bearings. I always watch the oil pressure when starting to make sure that the pressure builds quick.

Ever take apart an engine that's been sitting for 6mo or 1yr? I have, and there's still oil on the bearings when taking the caps off. I am not sure where this notion of all oil disappears if the oil it left to "drain down". When air gets into the oil paths then there will be a lack of oil pressure during start-up time. Without pistons firing there is really nothing to worry about. One could put an inline switch to the ignition so that you can manually flip on the ignition after the engine cranks a few times to get some oil flowing. Or better yet, for engines where this "no oil" may be an issue, the OEM should program into the ECU a crank sensor count and will turn on the ignition after a few rotations of the crank.

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