Is this true? MUST finish drain and refill in 10 mins or RISK involved

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Just watched this and wonder if this affects us in North America?

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I don’t think they use our 2.3 in I think it’s a diesel? Or v 6
 

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Regardless, Oil changes are fun to do on your own vehicle. It never takes 10 mins to drain oil from my experience. I use that time to look at the filter and inspect the oil and area around it.
Now, when the dealer forces you to let them change bc of warranty stuff, this should not be legal in any country.(Referring to dealership I have to deal with here) I hate dealerships so called techs touching my vehicle here. They dont give a crap about what they are doing, absolutely no pride in their work. They have no idea what a freaken torque wrench is(sarcasm) and believe in infinite tight. I know this from personal experience and talking to the techs. The customers are not protected from the dealership itself.
 
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Just a simple lesson to never assume you know everything! I was instructed in trade school to always refer to all the resources available to you. All our tests were open book because of this. I have see stuff like this first hand....


I worked with an old school mechanic about 8 years ago. He was given an oil change and brake inspection on a second gen Ford Focus. He was doing his job inspecting the whole car and found it had a front main seal leak. He up-sold the customer on it and they bought the job. Instead of looking up the proper procedure, he just started busting everything apart. He started pulling the crankshaft pulley off, heard a ratcheting/slipping noise, and thought nothing of it. He finished the job and started the car but it wouldn't start. We found that the crankshaft is not keyed and uses a metallurgical friction fit to hold the timing chain sprocket in place. The engine was damaged beyond repair, due to damage to the cylinder head and pistons. He ruined an engine because he just assumed every engine is built like and old school American V8.


Assuming, will at the very least, make an a$$ out of yourself and maybe other people too :wink:
 


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I'm an old harley wrench.Built them,fixed them,rode them,owned my own shop. My rule of thumb: ALWAYS use the shop manual. Nobody remembers everything.
 

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This issue appears to be normal for Ford's DuraTorq diesel engines !! No self priming pump !!



As the comments on the video say, very dumb design. How could you prime the pump if it fully drained out? I guess Ford just tells everyone to "move fast" when changing the filter?
 

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Great, now I have to explain to the dealer that its needs to be done in 10 mins. I seriously doubt they follow that rule, why did they design it this way. What the heck would be the benefit?
 
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Just an FYI I found. My whole adult vehicle owning life I ALWAYS did my own oil changes but it was a leap of faith to begin with anyway - going with this engine as I have always been a Chevy V8 Guy. Had my Avalanche 15 years, but I really like my Ranger. My XLT came with 3 years of oil changes at no cost to me (That I know of) It wasn't on the contract to purchase I signed. When I questioned it and said I would rather have the $398 they charged back to service for it they said they backed out of their cost and it was a present to me, no charge. Use it or not, no difference. So with 6-7 quarts of mobile 1 and a oil filter is on them for awhile... :^)
 
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Great, now I have to explain to the dealer that its needs to be done in 10 mins. I seriously doubt they follow that rule, why did they design it this way. What the heck would be the benefit?
Because they didn’t. It doesn’t apply to the 2.3 EcoBoost
 

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Hi Folks,

We do not own Mazda, so not applicable.

I change my own oil...even my Cat C7, which takes 19 quarts of oil... I have all day as a retired person...although I have to say the cranky 70 old body complains about sliding under the truck....sigh! :(

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Well my Everest has the Bi Turbo Ranger Raptor engine, so unfortunately, it does apply to me.
 

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Hi Folks,

We do not own Mazda, so not applicable.

I change my own oil...even my Cat C7, which takes 19 quarts of oil... I have all day as a retired person...although I have to say the cranky 70 old body complains about sliding under the truck....sigh! :(

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Yeah, I was injured twice in Iraq, both were bad but the last did me in. I have pins in my spine,2 spinal cord simulators, and tore up muscles. Some weird nerve damage that never worked out, so it takes a little effort to do things. I use to just get stuff done, now I have to work smart to work less. So even though my age is not bad yet, I understand what you mean.
 

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Yeah, I was injured twice in Iraq, both were bad but the last did me in. I have pins in my spine,2 spinal cord simulators, and tore up muscles. Some weird nerve damage that never worked out, so it takes a little effort to do things. I use to just get stuff done, now I have to work smart to work less. So even though my age is not bad yet, I understand what you mean.
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