"Raptor Style Lights" Maybe someone here can answer quicker lol.

[AzScorpion]

If you use the sidemarker pigtail they will act as DRL's but I did if from the truck settings without forscan iirc...

Unless you change it in Forscan when you use the side marker pigtail they only come on when your marker lights are on or the regular lights are on.

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[veedubtuner]

Are you looking to have them come on as DRLs?

Yes, I already did the lariat headlight swap a couple years ago, but Forscan changes have the swap "as built" now. I believe I'm gonna also have to make the changes to have the markers on with the DRL's so that I can just use that jumper from Stage3.

 

[NotBudule2]

Unless you change it in Forscan when you use the side marker pigtail they only come on when your marker lights are on or the regular lights are on.

I thought there was a setting in truck menu that has the side markers on all the time but maybe not ... I did use forscan for Bambi and ASS but I don't remember doing anything for the grille lights ...

 

[AzScorpion]

I thought there was a setting in truck menu that has the side markers on all the time but maybe not ... I did use forscan for Bambi and ASS but I don't remember doing anything for the grille lights ...

There's a setting to turn the DRLs off which is the only one I found.

 

[veedubtuner]

My understanding (and I maybe wrong) the DRL's on Lariats are the LED "boomerang" bar at the bottom, and the markers are off. Currently, for me to have the DRL "boomerang" after my initial install, I have to have the switch in auto, if I have it in "on" the LED strip is off. Something to do with pin #6. The new Forscan changes in that thread I guess activate that pin #6 and makes the XLT to factory "as built" Lariat. So all I would have to do is make those changes, along with I think it's the Canadian DRL feature (where the markers and rear lights are active) to have the grille light on with DRL's tapping into the side marker. Maybe...unless I'm overthinking again

 

[NotBudule2]

There's a setting to turn the DRLs off which is the only one I found.

Activate DRLs: Go to your vehicle's instrument cluster menu, select Settings > Vehicle > Lighting > Daytime Running Lights and ensure they are checked.
Enable Auto Lamp: Rotate the headlight switch to the "Auto" position (far right).
Functionality: The side markers will now act as DRLs when the ignition is on, the car is not in Park, and the main headlamps are off.
Upgrade Option: If you want them to be brighter, replace the stock halogen 194 bulbs with LED amber 194 bulbs.
Troubleshooting: If they do not turn on, check that the DRL setting is enabled in the menu and that your headlight switch is not on 'Off' or 'Parking Lights'.

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I think i did this?

 

[AzScorpion]

Activate DRLs: Go to your vehicle's instrument cluster menu, select Settings > Vehicle > Lighting > Daytime Running Lights and ensure they are checked.
Enable Auto Lamp: Rotate the headlight switch to the "Auto" position (far right).
Functionality: The side markers will now act as DRLs when the ignition is on, the car is not in Park, and the main headlamps are off.
Upgrade Option: If you want them to be brighter, replace the stock halogen 194 bulbs with LED amber 194 bulbs.
Troubleshooting: If they do not turn on, check that the DRL setting is enabled in the menu and that your headlight switch is not on 'Off' or 'Parking Lights'.

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I think i did this?

I don't use Auto Lamp and my DRLs are off so that's probably why I never seen them (grille lights) on unless the parking or main light are on. I'll have to try it next time we're out just to see if it works.

 

[AzScorpion]

My understanding (and I maybe wrong) the DRL's on Lariats are the LED "boomerang" bar at the bottom, and the markers are off. Currently, for me to have the DRL "boomerang" after my initial install, I have to have the switch in auto, if I have it in "on" the LED strip is off. Something to do with pin #6. The new Forscan changes in that thread I guess activate that pin #6 and makes the XLT to factory "as built" Lariat. So all I would have to do is make those changes, along with I think it's the Canadian DRL feature (where the markers and rear lights are active) to have the grille light on with DRL's tapping into the side marker. Maybe...unless I'm overthinking again

Yeah, what he said.

 

[veedubtuner]

Activate DRLs: Go to your vehicle's instrument cluster menu, select Settings > Vehicle > Lighting > Daytime Running Lights and ensure they are checked.
Enable Auto Lamp: Rotate the headlight switch to the "Auto" position (far right).
Functionality: The side markers will now act as DRLs when the ignition is on, the car is not in Park, and the main headlamps are off.
Upgrade Option: If you want them to be brighter, replace the stock halogen 194 bulbs with LED amber 194 bulbs.
Troubleshooting: If they do not turn on, check that the DRL setting is enabled in the menu and that your headlight switch is not on 'Off' or 'Parking Lights'.

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I think i did this?

Yea I did all that while researching what I need to do in my situation being that I actually have an XLT. When I select/deselect the DRL's in the menu, it just turns off/on the LED strip, nothing happens with the markers. I'll double check before I go and make any changes.

 

[AzScorpion]

Yea I did all that while researching what I need to do in my situation being that I actually have an XLT. When I select/deselect the DRL's in the menu, it just turns off/on the LED strip, nothing happens with the markers. I'll double check before I go and make any changes.

I'm pretty sure that's the same that happens when I turn mine on/off too. IIRC the DRLs have nothing to do with the side markers but it's been almost 3 years and I have CRS (can't remember ) so I'll have to check it again next time we go out.

 

[NotBudule2]

I went to look for my old one but must have tossed it , if I remember correctly, the lights were part of the harness and didn't unplug and that's why I didn't think they were actually in that Pic ... ima smoke on the matter though...

After more smoking on the matter (which is most likely what's the matter) i did find the old one ...

 

[fob63]

My understanding (and I maybe wrong) the DRL's on Lariats are the LED "boomerang" bar at the bottom, and the markers are off. Currently, for me to have the DRL "boomerang" after my initial install, I have to have the switch in auto, if I have it in "on" the LED strip is off. Something to do with pin #6. The new Forscan changes in that thread I guess activate that pin #6 and makes the XLT to factory "as built" Lariat. So all I would have to do is make those changes, along with I think it's the Canadian DRL feature (where the markers and rear lights are active) to have the grille light on with DRL's tapping into the side marker. Maybe...unless I'm overthinking again

I'll have to go back in ForScan at my settings, but I set parking lights and fogs as DRLs. That way the grille lights were on with the park/side markers. Set low beams to off from factory XLT halogen settings.

 

[airline tech]

Yea I did all that while researching what I need to do in my situation being that I actually have an XLT. When I select/deselect the DRL's in the menu, it just turns off/on the LED strip, nothing happens with the markers. I'll double check before I go and make any changes.

Early on - I ASSUMED that all LED assemblies required As-Built changes, that proved to be an inaccurate assumption with Aftermarket assemblies as they are internally powered even as LEDs to use the (BCM supplied power for Halogens) without any changes to be required.

Now since the Factory (LED) assemblies use a different power requirement then yes, the factory Halogen to LED swap holds true

I went through all the (As-Built) compares from Halogen and LED (Factory) and noted all the changes within the BCM (As-Built) files, most of which alter where the DRL power feed comes from (Pin #6)
Normal US Version Rangers - have the (DRL Include Park Lights - Inhibited) and if you want that feature (The same as Canada) has set up as (Normal) then the As-Built data needs changed to allow it.

Now Normal DRL Operation.

Switch in (Auto) Daylight
LED strip is off
Place truck in any gear except park (Includes Neutral)
LED strip is - Bright

If you use the IPC Menu and - deselect DRL - the above (LED strip remains off)

When the Headlights - command (On Auto) then the same LED strip changes from Bright to Dim and when the switch is moved to (Headlight or Park)

Unless you have made changes to the (DRL Include Park Lights) the Park lights include

The (LED Strip - DIM)
The Side Marker Lights
The (Taillamp) Lights
The License Plate Lights

They will only function when the Headlights are Commanded (On -Auto) or (Headlights) or (Park Lights)
and with (DRL Include Park Lights) when you shift out of park (in the daylight) instead of only having only the (LED Strip - Bright) you are adding the rest of the Park Light circuit to it, so this feature adds the side marker (source tap) you need to have the (Grille Lights) lit up along with the DRL (LED Strip)

The only downside is that when you are driving - all the park lights are lit (increasing life wear) and the limitation is there is not a way to separate out Individual circuits (such as side marker) only- it's all or none and it would have been a great addition to the circuit programming if that was allowed.

The alternate work around - to have the Grille Lights always powered when the truck is running is to use a (switched power) source as the trigger for a relay (such as Fuse #19) and power the lights themselves via the battery this eliminates the (DRL) circuit entirely

 

[Big Blue]

Normal US Version Rangers - have the (DRL Include Park Lights - Inhibited) and if you want that feature (The same as Canada) has set up as (Normal) then the As-Built data needs changed to allow it.

Now Normal DRL Operation.

Switch in (Auto) Daylight
LED strip is off
Place truck in any gear except park (Includes Neutral)
LED strip is - Bright

If you use the IPC Menu and - deselect DRL - the above (LED strip remains off)

When the Headlights - command (On Auto) then the same LED strip changes from Bright to Dim and when the switch is moved to (Headlight or Park)

Unless you have made changes to the (DRL Include Park Lights) the Park lights include

The (LED Strip - DIM)
The Side Marker Lights
The (Taillamp) Lights
The License Plate Lights

They will only function when the Headlights are Commanded (On -Auto) or (Headlights) or (Park Lights)
and with (DRL Include Park Lights) when you shift out of park (in the daylight) instead of only having only the (LED Strip - Bright) you are adding the rest of the Park Light circuit to it, so this feature adds the side marker (source tap) you need to have the (Grille Lights) lit up along with the DRL (LED Strip)

The only downside is that when you are driving - all the park lights are lit (increasing life wear) and the limitation is there is not a way to separate out Individual circuits (such as side marker) only- it's all or none and it would have been a great addition to the circuit programming if that was allowed.

The alternate work around - to have the Grille Lights always powered when the truck is running is to use a (switched power) source as the trigger for a relay (such as Fuse #19) and power the lights themselves via the battery this eliminates the (DRL) circuit entirely

Let me give my opinion on which way I am in favor of. Change the as-built to include the parking lamps and leave your headlight switch in Auto. I cannot count the times I have come up on a vehicle on a foggy day, at dusk or driving into the evening sun that did not have taillights on. If you have lights you don't want on all the time put them on a separate switch like your off-road lights.

This comes close to the requirement in Canada. They require that the DRLs are on ANYTIME the vehicle is running along with taillights.

Now the rest of this is my personal opinion, so you can stop reading now if you want.

I have always felt that DRLs on the US should include taillights and use of Auto ON headlights should be mandatory. With back-loy or digital dashes too many people today do not turn on their headlights when they should. They drive with no lights or just their DRLs and no taillights. What is so hard about understanding that "lights are about being seen as much, maybe more, than seeing".

To this end I could see the headlight switch only having two positions. Auto and Park. Auto would work as ours does today with parking lights included and, Park would only work if the transmission was in Park. If you started the vehicle with the Park position activated it would default to the Auto position.

I know another "Nanny"! Believe me I know this would be unpopular. Maybe tying the dash sensor to the dash lights or display and turning them off untill lights are turned on would help educate some drivers when they need to turn their headlights on. I believe that was one of the options the Canadians were looking at for new vehicles.

End of RANT

 

[DukeCanBuildit]

Let me give my opinion on which way I am in favor of. Change the as-built to include the parking lamps and leave your headlight switch in Auto. I cannot count the times I have come up on a vehicle on a foggy day, at dusk or driving into the evening sun that did not have taillights on. If you have lights you don't want on all the time put them on a separate switch like your off-road lights.

This comes close to the requirement in Canada. They require that the DRLs are on ANYTIME the vehicle is running along with taillights.

Now the rest of this is my personal opinion, so you can stop reading now if you want.

I have always felt that DRLs on the US should include taillights and use of Auto ON headlights should be mandatory. With back-loy or digital dashes too many people today do not turn on their headlights when they should. They drive with no lights or just their DRLs and no taillights. What is so hard about understanding that "lights are about being seen as much, maybe more, than seeing".

To this end I could see the headlight switch only having two positions. Auto and Park. Auto would work as ours does today with parking lights included and, Park would only work if the transmission was in Park. If you started the vehicle with the Park position activated it would default to the Auto position.

I know another "Nanny"! Believe me I know this would be unpopular. Maybe tying the dash sensor to the dash lights or display and turning them off untill lights are turned on would help educate some drivers when they need to turn their headlights on. I believe that was one of the options the Canadians were looking at for new vehicles.

End of RANT

Preach, Lee, preach!

Canada has had an “always-on” DRL requirement for some time. Great idea but too many people were not turning on all their lights at dusk. Because they could see their DRLs reflecting off cars and the road and their dash was lit.

This caused a recent update to vehicle lighting here. Since 2021, new vehicles sold here must have one of the following:

• tail lights that come on automatically with daytime running lights
• headlights, tail lights, and side marker lights that turn on automatically in the dark
• a dashboard that stays dark to alert the driver to turn on the lights

I say, why not have all three and make “auto-on“ default when not in Park or Neutral?

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