GFB Turbocharger Blow Off Valve (DV+) for Ranger vs Turbosmart?

[awd.nv]

Hey guys,

Considering a BOV since I have seen the mention of better performance or at least MPG. I came across a new one I have not seen before and am curious if anyone here has run it?

GFB DV+ BOV
https://www.stage3motorsports.com/t9384-2019-2023-ranger-23l-gfb-turbocharger-blow-off-valve.html

https://gofastbits.com/product/dv-t9384-diverter-valve-for-ford-applications/

Alternatively, any bad experiences with Turbosmart? I have seen comments here n there where some people have said they felt a lack of throttle response but not sure if that is due to no maintenance or what.

Thanks,
Anthony

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[OGMix376]

I just put the turbo smart dual port kompact one on.. super simple install…got it used at a great price from a memeber here on 5G.

throttle response may be coming from the ones who got the dual port 50%pb/50%vta… if you got a 100% plumb back (adult version or recirculate) I don’t believe you’ll experience any lack of throttle response..which I think may be boost lag, not throttle response… so far I’ve seen about a .5mpg increase in efficiency. I was sitting at 21.2 im bouncing between 21.7-21.9
The GFB one you are showing looks great and appears to be a non-vta (the adult version?).
Personally I like the very petite gfb one you’re posting and might have went that route if I didn’t get the turbo smart one.

 

[Racket]

There's a sticky with this discussed to death. If you like 'extra' noise(s) you want the VTA. Otherwise the DV+ seems like a refinement to the factory unit.

https://www.ranger5g.com/forum/threads/gfb-dv.2119/

 

[LowKeyTremor]

Hey guys,

Considering a BOV since I have seen the mention of better performance or at least MPG. I came across a new one I have not seen before and am curious if anyone here has run it?

GFB DV+ BOV
https://www.stage3motorsports.com/t9384-2019-2023-ranger-23l-gfb-turbocharger-blow-off-valve.html

https://gofastbits.com/product/dv-t9384-diverter-valve-for-ford-applications/

Alternatively, any bad experiences with Turbosmart? I have seen comments here n there where some people have said they felt a lack of throttle response but not sure if that is due to no maintenance or what.

Thanks,
Anthony

no bad experiences with turbo smart whatsoever! In fact, I had just posted a few things that surprised the hell out of me!

I didn’t read any of the benefits, but all of a sudden I am noticing better throttle response, and a notable quicker spool. After adding, I immediatelywas getting 3 miles per gallon on average better if not more.

I was racking my brain and thinking how could this be? I’ve added cold air intake and really didn’t notice this much and a Borla S type exhaust and not much to say other than an amazing sound, yet I go put this on and immediately get noticeable power and increased gas mileage.

so before reading anything my conclusion was that this aftermarket BOV created a much better seal, so with the additional air flowing in there and also the exhaust freely exiting, technically there would be more boost available, and unless it seals it would be useless. I feel like the BOV allows all the other parts to work much better. It’s also good for the turbo because there’s no turbo surge… That air gets sent off and given that it’s compressed and the turbine is slowing, you now don’t have the air pushing against the turbine, which is not all that great for the turbo. So you’re gonna increase the turbo life as well

By the way, I then did go read into it and I guess it’s intuitive because my thoughts were correct on why I actually noticed a difference because I thought maybe I was imagining all of these benefits. Although there’s no denying that the gas mileage was immediately higher. Who would’ve thought…

So mine is not obnoxious at all, and until I turned down the music, I didn’t even realize that my whole trip up to Tahoe had it activating over and over just from putting on the load and then not needing the extra power and then back-and-forth. But it’s really subtle and you don’t hear it inside unless it’s really quiet and it’s not obnoxious.

If you want it loud, put it in sport mode, start giving it throttle and ramp it up even more so it has a decent load on the motor, but you don’t need it to be much higher than 3000 RPM, then just cut the throttle… All the way and quickly. Now boost is not needed at all and actually you don’t really want it, because it pushes back on the turbo, and you then get to enjoy the compressed air that will whoosh out!

The best comparison [it’s actually a contrast] I can make would be to the WRX STI with the guys who do the blow off valve. Those are obnoxious because I swear I can hear the sound of the actual mechanical movement, which is pretty drastic, and sounds similar to filling up your tire and then having the connection slip, creating a pretty damn loud sound!

It’s just very abrupt on those ones and the turbo smart is not abrupt, it’s even soothing, yet slightly sinister.

And you won’t look like the 20 year-old in the Subaru thinking he’s pretty hot stuff! You will remain an adult I promise!

I think if I had one that plumbed back I would be sad and might even have tears in my eyes… Maybe not but if I had heard what I’m missing out on, I might even be sobbing. I love it and I love the increase in power and by the way I run premium all the time, but I love that and it’s also fun to get 24 miles per gallon on 75% highway when I used to barely get it over 18 MPG… Keep in mind the tremor is rated at 19 city and 19 Highway, so it’s quite notable!

 

[Dereku]

I think either way you go you will be happy. The stock one is more progressive and smoother but thats bad for boost and efficiency. However it is not abrupt and gives a more pleasant driving experience. However since we are all assholes here and like to drive with vigor occasionally, we dont care so much about a smooth experience. Getting shoved back into the seat by a 4 cylinder pickup is exciting.

The 18 year old me would lose all respect for the adult me stating that last sentence.

 

[subquark]

I have the GFB non-woosh version and like it. It seems that throttle is smoother in some situations, like moderate stop-and-go traffic, where you keep rolling and traffic surges.

I drive too many short trips to notice any mpg changes and I don't understand why it would improve mpg.

https://gofastbits.com/product/dv-t...-america-china-australia-pct-patents-pending/

 

[Dereku]

I have the GFB non-woosh version and like it. It seems that throttle is smoother in some situations, like moderate stop-and-go traffic, where you keep rolling and traffic surges.

I drive too many short trips to notice any mpg changes and I don't understand why it would improve mpg.

https://gofastbits.com/product/dv-t...-america-china-australia-pct-patents-pending/

Less boost bleed can theoretically improve mpgs. Turbos creates less boost for same volume of air the engine needs. But I would err on less of an improvement than more. Like 0.5 mpg or less. Which can be contributed to many other factors.

 

[awd.nv]

Thanks guys for the feedback. I think I am in the market for the adult version since these 50/50 units just woosh, now if they did the crazy BOV sounds from the 90's then maybe I would go for the party sound version lol.

MPG and better efficiency were something I did not consider with a BOV prior.

There's a sticky with this discussed to death. If you like 'extra' noise(s) you want the VTA. Otherwise the DV+ seems like a refinement to the factory unit.

https://www.ranger5g.com/forum/threads/gfb-dv.2119/

Well this one I linked I have never seen before and was not found when I searched it in the forum. It seems new as technically on their site you can only find it for the Bronco but Stage 3 shows it works on the Ranger too.

Probably going to get the quiet Turbosmart one if no one else has tried it though.

 

[Dereku]

https://eliteracefab.com/products/g...2LUbbdMrqst2LwR70UUAAq3eVaxqgxVxoCz8YQAvD_BwE

This would be my vote. Retains stock electronics so probably more reliable.

 

[LowKeyTremor]

I think either way you go you will be happy. The stock one is more progressive and smoother but thats bad for boost and efficiency. However it is not abrupt and gives a more pleasant driving experience. However since we are all assholes here and like to drive with vigor occasionally, we dont care so much about a smooth experience. Getting shoved back into the seat by a 4 cylinder pickup is exciting.

The 18 year old me would lose all respect for the adult me stating that last sentence.

You and me both! However I imagine we were both intelligent enough at 18 so we would be able to read between these lines and would be very proud of this entire post! I salute you lol!

On a more serious note but too serious … It’s freaking amazing to get pinned to the seat by a four-cylinder pick up! I had a buddy that drove a 1998 Ford Ranger cab and a half… You know, the wonderful sideways seating where you know that if you get rear ended, sitting in the back your face is kind of go through that back window???!!!! Well that thing was an amazingly gutless wonder! Saying that they upped their game is quite the understatement!

I actually haven’t noticed any abrupt qualities from the BOV, even though it’s not plumbed back. Quite honestly, unless someone is adverse to a smooth whoosh, and one that you have to be driving pretty aggressively which one would expect to hear some extra noises, it’s not that loud.

Maybe I just haven’t heard one on a Ranger that is off-putting.

Either way, I have to agree that no matter what you’re gonna be happy and you’re going to benefit at a greater amount with Boltons and tunes, especially when they allow for greater boost because my feeling is that these aftermarket BOVs can handle that much better.

 

[awd.nv]

I have the GFB non-woosh version and like it. It seems that throttle is smoother in some situations, like moderate stop-and-go traffic, where you keep rolling and traffic surges.

I drive too many short trips to notice any mpg changes and I don't understand why it would improve mpg.

https://gofastbits.com/product/dv-t...-america-china-australia-pct-patents-pending/

I am guessing mpg improvements may come from a factory BOV that is bleeding off boost? Only thing I can think of.

I am averaging 14-16mpg around town because there is so much construction in Vegas, plus where I live they added so many more traffic lights, trying to get a little mpg back if I can. Doesn't help that I have to idle 15-20min every school day when I pick up my kids.

 

[LowKeyTremor]

This one plugged right in as well. I think a lot of them do

This is what I have

 

[LowKeyTremor]

I am guessing mpg improvements may come from a factory BOV that is bleeding off boost? Only thing I can think of.

I am averaging 14-16mpg around town because there is so much construction in Vegas, plus where I live they added so many more traffic lights, trying to get a little mpg back if I can. Doesn't help that I have to idle 15-20min every school day when I pick up my kids.

It’s absolutely because the BOV seals better so your turbo gets to build more boost!

Secondly, when you let off, it releases the boost much quicker instead of pushing back and effectively slowing the turbine, which is also not so good for it.

Then when you’re back on the throttle, the boost builds quickly because of the efficiency.

That makes sense right?

I’m in the post part on my phone so I don’t know if you have a tremor, but the gas mileage is worse on the tremor and even when I drive aggressive, the worst I’ve done since the BOV is still above the 19 MPG that it’s rated for

I also drive sport mode a lot just because it’s so damn fun, and I do not allow the motor to turn off when I’m at a stoplight, which ruins the gas mileage, so those who do will register higher MPG.

So I’m technically doing everything wrong and still snagging awesome MPG’s. I SERIOUSLY could not beat 18mpg prior!

I’ll see if I can find some BOV screenshots because I definitely have some afterwards

 

[LowKeyTremor]

Here are a few

 

[Big Blue]

Here are a few

Really? You expect us to believe that comparing a 226 mile before average and a 8.9 mile and a 26.7 mile after averages shows a REAL improvement in mpg. Those aren't averages those are snap shots at best.

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