All TPMS Sensors Stopped Registering at the Same Time????

[DukeCanBuildit]

I rotated in my matching spare for the first time, months ago and it never registered on the dash monitor. It either needed to be learned or re-learned or never actually had a sensor - no biggie, I could deal with it in time. I can live with the warning light and the null field on the dash with the other three values populated. Meh.

I recently swapped out my aftermarket wheel set for my OEM wheel set to satisfy my curiosity about a shimmy that comes on at about 120 km/hr. Yes, it turns out the shimmy is completely related to the aftermarket wheel set and I’ll get a road force balance as soon as I grow tired of all the hooning I’m enjoying. ? The truck did not automatically pick up the sensors from the OEM set. Is it supposed to? I don’t know but I don’t really care if it should - I can get them re-learned easy enough. A few thousand kms later and the values, including the null value, on the dash hadn’t changed. They seemed to be locked in memory.

While driving to Toronto today, the TPMS fault warning came up on the dash - not the flashing tire thingy - the large text message that takes up the whole screen. I thought that was kind of interesting but the truck felt absolutely fine and I thought, I wonder which sensor it is. I scrolled through the cluster menu and was greeted with this…

? I figured it was a gremlin that would correct itself after a shutdown and restart. That was not the case. Even after several shutdowns and restarts through the usual course of the day, the situation persists. Odd.

So, is there something wrong with the BCM, PCIM, or whatever? Or, did the truck simply “timeout“ on those “old” values because nothing was re-learned when I put the OEM set back on? ?‍ Any thoughts?

I am now motivated to put the aftermarket wheels back on and get road force balance done, along with having their sensors re-learned. I just might have to start a GoFundMe for gas money - I’ll post the link.

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[RangerBill]

I rotated in my matching spare for the first time, months ago and it never registered on the dash monitor. It either needed to be learned or re-learned or never actually had a sensor - no biggie, I could deal with it in time. I can live with the warning light and the null field on the dash with the other three values populated. Meh.

I recently swapped out my aftermarket wheel set for my OEM wheel set to satisfy my curiosity about a shimmy that comes on at about 120 km/hr. Yes, it turns out the shimmy is completely related to the aftermarket wheel set and I’ll get a road force balance as soon as I grow tired of all the hooning I’m enjoying. ? The truck did not automatically pick up the sensors from the OEM set. Is it supposed to? I don’t know but I don’t really care if it should - I can get them re-learned easy enough. A few thousand kms later and the values, including the null value, on the dash hadn’t changed. They seemed to be locked in memory.

While driving to Toronto today, the TPMS fault warning came up on the dash - not the flashing tire thingy - the large text message that takes up the whole screen. I thought that was kind of interesting but the truck felt absolutely fine and I thought, I wonder which sensor it is. I scrolled through the cluster menu and was greeted with this…

? I figured it was a gremlin that would correct itself after a shutdown and restart. That was not the case. Even after several shutdowns and restarts through the usual course of the day, the situation persists. Odd.

So, is there something wrong with the BCM, PCIM, or whatever? Or, did the truck simply “timeout“ on those “old” values because nothing was re-learned when I put the OEM set back on? ?‍ Any thoughts?

I am now motivated to put the aftermarket wheels back on and get road force balance done, along with having their sensors re-learned. I just might have to start a GoFundMe for gas money - I’ll post the link.

I think that you will need to do the TPMS learning procedure found in the manual. Your truck is programmed for the tires that you took off and doesn't recognize the tire sensors that are now on the truck.

 

[got3fords]

I rotated in my matching spare for the first time, months ago and it never registered on the dash monitor. It either needed to be learned or re-learned or never actually had a sensor - no biggie, I could deal with it in time. I can live with the warning light and the null field on the dash with the other three values populated. Meh.

I recently swapped out my aftermarket wheel set for my OEM wheel set to satisfy my curiosity about a shimmy that comes on at about 120 km/hr. Yes, it turns out the shimmy is completely related to the aftermarket wheel set and I’ll get a road force balance as soon as I grow tired of all the hooning I’m enjoying. ? The truck did not automatically pick up the sensors from the OEM set. Is it supposed to? I don’t know but I don’t really care if it should - I can get them re-learned easy enough. A few thousand kms later and the values, including the null value, on the dash hadn’t changed. They seemed to be locked in memory.

While driving to Toronto today, the TPMS fault warning came up on the dash - not the flashing tire thingy - the large text message that takes up the whole screen. I thought that was kind of interesting but the truck felt absolutely fine and I thought, I wonder which sensor it is. I scrolled through the cluster menu and was greeted with this…

? I figured it was a gremlin that would correct itself after a shutdown and restart. That was not the case. Even after several shutdowns and restarts through the usual course of the day, the situation persists. Odd.

So, is there something wrong with the BCM, PCIM, or whatever? Or, did the truck simply “timeout“ on those “old” values because nothing was re-learned when I put the OEM set back on? ?‍ Any thoughts?

I am now motivated to put the aftermarket wheels back on and get road force balance done, along with having their sensors re-learned. I just might have to start a GoFundMe for gas money - I’ll post the link.

I'd be more worried about 2 degrees in October. But in Fahrenheit it's around 35. We were just in the 40's for lows last week. Gonna be in the 70's this week.

 

[NotBudule2]

Probably Karma for that Rick-Roll you pulled a while back , now you seek information from your sensors, and quite frankly, their never gonna give it up , even if your air goes down,
So be careful driving around
Cause it won't alert you ...

 

[DukeCanBuildit]

Probably Karma for that Rick-Roll you pulled a while back , now you seek information from your sensors, and quite frankly, their never gonna give it up , even if your air goes down,
So be careful driving around ?
Cause it won't alert you ...

We can always rely on you for a good chuckle, Robert.

 

[KJRR]

I'd just trade it in now. Obviously a lemon.

 

[LawnMM]

Probably Karma for that Rick-Roll you pulled a while back , now you seek information from your sensors, and quite frankly, their never gonna give it up , even if your air goes down,
So be careful driving around
Cause it won't alert you ...

 

[DukeCanBuildit]

I'd just trade it in now. Obviously a lemon.

Not before contacting customer care, a lemon law lawyer, the attorney general, and the NHTSA.

 

[AzScorpion]

You're all wrong! That's the No Damper warning light. Now you have no choice but to get one or you're stuck looking at this dreaded warning for life. I told ya I get you one way or another! ?

 

[DukeCanBuildit]

You're all wrong! That's the No Damper warning light. Now you have no choice but to get one or you're stuck looking at this dreaded warning for life. I told ya I get you one way or another! ?

What, and give up all this?

 

[Fawnbuster]

I rotated in my matching spare for the first time, months ago and it never registered on the dash monitor. It either needed to be learned or re-learned or never actually had a sensor - no biggie, I could deal with it in time. I can live with the warning light and the null field on the dash with the other three values populated. Meh.

I recently swapped out my aftermarket wheel set for my OEM wheel set to satisfy my curiosity about a shimmy that comes on at about 120 km/hr. Yes, it turns out the shimmy is completely related to the aftermarket wheel set and I’ll get a road force balance as soon as I grow tired of all the hooning I’m enjoying. ? The truck did not automatically pick up the sensors from the OEM set. Is it supposed to? I don’t know but I don’t really care if it should - I can get them re-learned easy enough. A few thousand kms later and the values, including the null value, on the dash hadn’t changed. They seemed to be locked in memory.

While driving to Toronto today, the TPMS fault warning came up on the dash - not the flashing tire thingy - the large text message that takes up the whole screen. I thought that was kind of interesting but the truck felt absolutely fine and I thought, I wonder which sensor it is. I scrolled through the cluster menu and was greeted with this…

? I figured it was a gremlin that would correct itself after a shutdown and restart. That was not the case. Even after several shutdowns and restarts through the usual course of the day, the situation persists. Odd.

So, is there something wrong with the BCM, PCIM, or whatever? Or, did the truck simply “timeout“ on those “old” values because nothing was re-learned when I put the OEM set back on? ?‍ Any thoughts?

I am now motivated to put the aftermarket wheels back on and get road force balance done, along with having their sensors re-learned. I just might have to start a GoFundMe for gas money

Lol @ go fund me. My steel spare didn't come standard with a tpm, those things have batteries inside them, I don't know if I'll put one in my spare when I swap them out.

That road force balance cured all of my balance vibrations. They said 2 where fine, 1 had to have the tire turned on the wheel about a 1/4 turn rotation and the other was a half a turn.

Wondering if you disconnected the battery would that help reset stuff? I had them move my oem tpms from oem wheels to my new ones.

 

[AzScorpion]

What, and give up all this?

And give up all this

Not a chance.

 

[airline tech]

Since I am sort of lost here on the tire swaps, if all wheels have a sensor (on the ground) they have to be spinning to wake them up (they power off) to save the battery.

Since all 4 are now (dashed), then it is possible that a relearn is needed, but this should happen automatically.

But however, if all 4 are now (Dashed) then it should have a code logged in the BCM

You can try a BCM (Self-Test) Reset and see if the indications return, if that does not work then the current installed sensors may need retrained.

 

[DukeCanBuildit]

Since I am sort of lost here on the tire swaps, if all wheels have a sensor (on the ground) they have to be spinning to wake them up (they power off) to save the battery.

Since all 4 are now (dashed), then it is possible that a relearn is needed, but this should happen automatically.

But however, if all 4 are now (Dashed) then it should have a code logged in the BCM

You can try a BCM (Self-Test) Reset and see if the indications return, if that does not work then the current installed sensors may need retrained.

Thanks AT,

Is a BCM reset as simple as disconnecting the battery terminals and pressing the brake pedal to drain any residual juice or do I need to remove the codes and reset it using a scanner or Forscan?

I’m planning to install the aftermarket set for a road force balance. They were working fine in July and if they show up on the screen again, great. If not, I’ll have the shop perform a relearn on them at that time.

The OEM set sat for four years in my garage so it wouldn’t surprise me if the batteries were dead when I put them on in July.

 

[DukeCanBuildit]

Lol @ go fund me. My steel spare didn't come standard with a tpm, those things have batteries inside them, I don't know if I'll put one in my spare when I swap them out.

That road force balance cured all of my balance vibrations. They said 2 where fine, 1 had to have the tire turned on the wheel about a 1/4 turn rotation and the other was a half a turn.

Wondering if you disconnected the battery would that help reset stuff? I had them move my oem tpms from oem wheels to my new ones.

Thanks Mike,

I’m convinced a good road force balance will take care of things in the vibration department. I’m fortunate to have the OEM set on hand to make the comparison. Riding on the OEM set is a night and day experience compared to my General Grabbers. Smooth as glass and no shimmy at all. Before that, the passenger seat would start to visibly shake at around 75/80 mph. I’ve had the truck up to 90 mph (maybe a bit more ) while passing a big rig and all is as it should be.

I’ll try that battery reset but I’m also planning on getting things relearned when I do the road force balance.

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