5G Ranger vs Every Nextgen

[awd.nv]

One of the things I liked most about our 5G Rangers was something reviewers called old, I saw it as tried and true. I think the only issue that I sometimes think about is a possible trans issue and while I am weary of boost in high mileage vehicles, I think Ford has a lot of experience with turbos now which gives me some peace of mind.

Toyota is taking it quite hard right now. Engine failures on their v6 turbo motors and now trans issues on the Taco? Ouch. Just coming back from Utah the other day I was back in NV, in the middle of nowhere on the 15 South before the Air Force base was a new looking Tundra getting loaded on a flat bed, couldn't help but wonder if it was an engine issue. (Edit: It was 105F, must have been tough waiting for that tow truck)

Out friend had a 6.2L engine go out on their 2021 Yukon XL when it was almost 2yr old. Then the dealer replaced it but that engine failed on the tech road test. 3rd engine was good a few months before they got hit stopped at a red light and the vehicle totaled. Their replacement they went with the diesel.

You would think with all the tools available to engineers things would be more reliable, probably cost cutting measures are what cause our issues today. Using the CAD and simulation tools to see how cheaply they can make something and be "reliable" rather than how bullet proof we can make it.

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[Frenchy]

If you ask me the only manufacturer that has had very little issues with the mid size pickup is the Nissan Frontier. I know a few of the VQ38DD Engines did have a strange leak with the intake plenum. Also apparently many are having issues with the Front Axle cracking, then again I noticed it's usually from individuals being silly....

 

[ctechbob]

If you ask me the only manufacturer that has had very little issues with the mid size pickup is the Nissan Frontier. I know a few of the VQ38DD Engines did have a strange leak with the intake plenum. Also apparently many are having issues with the Front Axle cracking, then again I noticed it's usually from individuals being silly....

They have some odd assembly problem with their AC hoses. Haven't bothered to look if it is widespread, but a buddy of mine has had two of the latest generation (totalled the first one) and they both had a problem where the AC hoses coming out of the compressor were either not installed right, or bent during assembly. Result was a rub-through and loss of AC.

Minor for sure, but still. No one is doing it right these days it seems. Stupid problems abound.

 

[pbethel]

One of the things I liked most about our 5G Rangers was something reviewers called old, I saw it as ...

Toyota is taking it quite hard right now. Engine failures on their v6 turbo motors and now trans issues on the Taco? Ouch. Just coming back from Utah the other day I was back in NV, in the middle of nowhere on the 15 South before the Air Force base was a new looking Tundra getting loaded on a flat bed, couldn't help but wonder if it was an engine issue. (Edit: It was 105F, must have been tough waiting for that tow truck)

Out friend had a 6.2L engine go out on their 2021 Yukon XL when it was almost 2yr old. Then the...

You live in Nevada and consider anywhere on I 15 as "the middle of nowhere"?
If so you need to head north and stay off the interstate.

 

[dtech]

You picked up nails too!!!!
Last thursday i went to fix a flat on my passenger front, and the dude at discount tire found a flat on my driver rear!!!!!!! I got them fixed for free but sheeesh, i should have bought a ridgeline! Ford needs to do better.
2 nails, 2 tires......smdh

you are a wiser man than I, as I jacked up my Ranger (with plenty of cursing lowering the spare), removed the tire and plugged it , will run the spare for a few days giving my aching body time to recover before reinstalling. If nothing else was a refresher on how to change a tire. 1st flat tire I've had as far back as I can remember.

 

[awd.nv]

You live in Nevada and consider anywhere on I 15 as "the middle of nowhere"?
If so you need to head north and stay off the interstate.

Ok, miles from a city or gas station, better? lol Sorry I can't exaggerate a little online.

 

[GhostStrykre]

truthfully the intent behind me even creating this thread was to point out, as has been done many times on this forum, that there is no greener pasture. everyone has issues. people can debate impact and frequency until they're blue in the face, but i just look out at the market/competition and walk away with a feelin' that my ranger is just fine for me. the truck ought to be around just as long as any other vehicle on the market.

 

[Todd Chapin]

Our 5th gens may have their share of issues, but at least we’re well into the development curve.

New 6th Gen Rangers have typical first year woes. The GM twins sound like they’ve stumbled upon their fair share of issues.

And now this with the Tacoma…


That video does a great deep dive on a myriad of issues, but even their daggum manual transmission is failing?! The discussion with a Toyota engineer on how they developed parts…

Moments like these I feel as if I confidently tell my wife it’s safe to sink a

New 6th Gen Rangers have typical first year woes. The GM twins sound like they’ve stumbled upon their fair share of issues.

And now this with the Tacoma…


That video does a great deep dive on a myriad of issues, but even their daggum manual transmission is failing?! The discussion with a Toyota engineer on how they developed parts…

Moments like these I feel as if I confidently tell my wife it’s safe to sink a few grand into aftermarket parts for my 2019 hahah

Thats nothing compared with what is going on with new Tundras which are unsellable or tradeable.
https://qz.com/toyota-tundra-trade-ins-dealers-v6-engine-recall-1851539153

 

[awd.nv]

Thats nothing compared with what is going on with new Tundras which are unsellable or tradeable.
https://qz.com/toyota-tundra-trade-ins-dealers-v6-engine-recall-1851539153

Sad to say but think you are right on that one. Assuming the videos are true and dealers wont even take them in on trades and such.

 

[GhostStrykre]

Thats nothing compared with what is going on with new Tundras which are unsellable or tradeable.
https://qz.com/toyota-tundra-trade-ins-dealers-v6-engine-recall-1851539153

yeeeeep. Tho I have seen other stuff that basically has proven the “untradeable” instances are exceedingly rare. My local Toyota dealer (my wife has a 4Runner) was telling me they sent all their used 22s and 23s to auction. They can’t sell them with an open recall and they don’t want to sit on them awaiting a solution. Any non-Toyota dealer can sell them, tho with a catch.

the catch: Any dealer network that has a Toyota or Lexus brand cannot sell a used Toyota with an open recall. So a Ford dealer can’t sell a used Toyota if the network possesses a Toyota dealership. That’s what I was told. So that explains why the gigantic dealer network in Cali is the one that said no trades on 3rd gen tundras. They can’t sit on a big inventory of tundras because they can’t sell them in any way.

Pretty wild.

 

[dtech]

Thats nothing compared with what is going on with new Tundras which are unsellable or tradeable.
https://qz.com/toyota-tundra-trade-ins-dealers-v6-engine-recall-1851539153

Didn't read that article but read another one discussing the crank bearing issues with the V6 engine and according to Yota the cause being debris from machining. The whole scenario is reminiscent of the Hyundai Theta engine crank seizures which led to Hyundai/KIA replacing at min 500k engines and probably more as they are still failing, at 1st Hyundai claimed it was owing to left over debris in the crank machining process and limited in scope but eventually a recall procedure encompassed 9 model yrs and millions of Theta II engines. I have a 2013 and get a lifetime warranty for replacement engine if my crank bearings seize.
Hyundai never completely explained the root cause of the failures, some engines are fine while others destroy the bearings and seize.
Will be interesting to see what is going on with these Yota v6 engines. Like so much of everything else bearing surfaces have been shrunk as well as oil pumps and passages, crank bearings and the crank shaft clearance have to be very precise as the crank endures sizeable forces and the crank floats on a thin layer of oil.

 

[moorejl57]

I hope all this uncertainty doesn't drive people to buying EV's. I am hoping my truck is my last vehicle and I don't want gas going sky high in the next 15 years or so.

 

[DaveP]

100% would take the garbage fuel economy, but amazing relatability of the 4.0 L put in XJs, and other Jeeps. Newer motors seem to be trying to hard to be something they aren’t.

*starts looking for used XJs on Autotrader* ?

 

[Frenchy]

100% would take the garbage fuel economy, but amazing relatability of the 4.0 L put in XJs, and other Jeeps. Newer motors seem to be trying to hard to be something they aren’t.

*starts looking for used XJs on Autotrader* ?

If you ask me id simply go to Nissan if looking for a good engine when it comes to reliability. Any Nissan with a V6 is going to be either a VQ or VR Platform and it's already proven the test of time that they are reliable and have good power. As for Fuel Economy.... Well it's better than what your looking at!!

 

[GhostStrykre]

If you ask me id simply go to Nissan if looking for a good engine when it comes to reliability. Any Nissan with a V6 is going to be either a VQ or VR Platform and it's already proven the test of time that they are reliable and have good power. As for Fuel Economy.... Well it's better than what your looking at!!

i got a chance to drive a loaded up nissan titan pro-4x this past month. man that thing is a sweet truck to drive. loooove love that v8. the interior layout is a little quirky, and the capability numbers are lower than the competition. that said, it was probably more than enough truck for the overwhelming amount of US consumers. it just didn't sell well. bummer for nissan.

imagine if nissan lost their minds and after discontinuing the titan this summer they announced a "halo" model nissan frontier that had the titan 5.6L v8 in it. i imagine it'd still sell terribly, but the thought of it is delightful.

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