Back-to-back Blackstone Lab reports w/Motorcraft 5W-30 vs. Amsoil

[MountainGoat]

These oil test companies have the perfect racket. I'm jealous.

I'm sure originally the intention was testing for more series avenues, like racing, large manufacturing equipment, etc etc

Then they realized one day that the average station wagon owner will pay for this service for God knows whatever reason.

And this is why I can never be rich, I couldn't sleep at night pulling these kind of large scale shenanigan's.

For a $35 test one or two times why not? They have already sent me 4 free bottles. One I used to keep change in, another I keep my marble collection, the third I used to separate out the brown M&Ms. And I STILL have one bottle left for toenails. Though I lost it. But still I think I am coming out ahead here.

Seriously I will probably do it once and then again maybe 5 years from now to see the difference. I mean it's not like I paid for 23andMe or anything.

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[ccasanova22]

If I ever become famous and a rock star, I’ll be sure to specify the color of M&M’s my production crew can provide lol

 

[redone17]

First oil change since ownership (30k miles). Assuming they used Motorcraft 5w30 since it was dealer changed - but, who knows?

I stuck with Motorcraft oil for this change because I have a few pre-paid changes rolling over from our 2016 Transit. I noticed in the report that they also put in BG MOA additive and 44k in the fuel tank…I didn’t ask for that. But, I guess we’ll see what it does on the next analysis.

I plan to switching to Motul after the pre-paid runs out.

 

[MountainGoat]

First oil change since ownership. Assuming they used Motorcraft 5w30 since it was dealer changed - but, who knows?

I stuck with Motorcraft oil for this change because I have a few pre-paid changes rolling over from our 2016 Transit. I noticed in the report that they also put in BG MOA additive and 44k in the fuel tank…I didn’t ask for that. But, I guess we’ll see what it does on the next analysis.

I plan to switching to Motul after the pre-paid runs out.

Got mine back, my oil and fuel dilution was almost exactly the same as yours. I use Mobil 1 5w30 and take short trips 90% of the time. Hence I do a 6 month change interval instead of miles. Oh and Livernois 91-93 tune.

 

[ppfd]

These oil test companies have the perfect racket. I'm jealous.

I'm sure originally the intention was testing for more series avenues, like racing, large manufacturing equipment, etc etc

Then they realized one day that the average station wagon owner will pay for this service for God knows whatever reason.

And this is why I can never be rich, I couldn't sleep at night pulling these kind of large scale shenanigan's.

I've heard of this testing but never realized people actually get that deep into it.

Boys, I don't even check my oil. I call the dealer when I notice I'm close to or a little over what that little sticker in the corner of my window says. They could be putting maple syrup in there for all I know. I get it in and drive. Its got a warranty and never keep anything till the "wheels fall off."
41,000 miles so far, only engine issue was that stupid part that has a 60 page thread about it.

 

[ccasanova22]

I've heard of this testing but never realized people actually get that deep into it.

Boys, I don't even check my oil. I call the dealer when I notice I'm close to or a little over what that little sticker in the corner of my window says. They could be putting maple syrup in there for all I know. I get it in and drive. Its got a warranty and never keep anything till the "wheels fall off."
41,000 miles so far, only engine issue was that stupid part that has a 60 page thread about it.

It's definitely not necessary, but good to keep track of things if you are wanting to keep a vehicle a very long time. It's identified leaks in air filters, head gasket failures before they fully failed, and most recently, a crack in the intake near where the MAF sensor bolts up on another vehicle.

For $35 I consider it cheap insurance, and for those who change their own oil (I've never paid to have my oil changed) it also documents the oil change with concrete evidence (in case Ford wants to deny an engine claim due to the owner changing their own oil).

To each their own, I guess, but the money it's saved for me (in early detection, especially for that cracked intake) is priceless.

 

[ppfd]

Yeah, I get it. Not bagging on anyone doing it.

I have no attachment to my vehicles, I do a few things I want to to them and usually sell them or trade them maybe a year after I pay them off.

I've written why I use a dealer for the oil change. I live in an apt and by the time I go to my storage unit get my tools, lay on the ground in the parking lot, buy the oil, take and dump the oil, clean up and take my tools back. I can pay the dealer $50.00 or whatever it is, sit in the building drink their coffee, and use their internet. My time is worth the cost.
Plus I have the records that they changed the oil if something were to happen.

 

[airline tech]

Just a quick question, how long is the turn around time for results?

 

[redone17]

Just a quick question, how long is the turn around time for results?

Usually about 2 weeks or so.

What’s great is they started providing prepaid envelopes to send them in. It always seemed shady to send a taped plastic bottle with a label on it.

 

[svogt302]

Hey all, I came across this thread doing some research on filters for the 5th Gen I recently purchased.

I work in the finished lubricant’s business, and I am currently employed by one of the oldest independent oil marketers in the United States. My company is also moves the most gallons of Motorcraft oil east of the Mississippi River.

I can tell you unequivocally that (all) Motorcraft Oil is made by one, single, well know oil company or “Major” as it’s known in the industry. Motorcraft has been made by this same company for several years and will continue to be that same company for several more. It’s made with high quality base stocks, and has exceptional quality control at every aspect of production.

There’s no “who knows what it’s gonna be this time” or “this dealership might use this brand and this one uses another and it’s just label slapped”. It comes from one place, made in one refinery, in the US.

On the topic of UOA, I work closely with several chemists who have their OMA and also a STLE-CLS, I too am studying to get my OMA as well between them there’s over 100 years of combined experience and education.

Doing UOA in a non-commercial, non diesel vehicle, is never a bad thing, it can help you stay ahead of potential problems with your engine IE coolant leaks, but in all honesty if you keep your changes to around 5,000 miles and use good oil and a good filter, you’ll be fine.

Ecoboost engines inherently have an issue with gasoline/oil dilution. My company has around 50 EB platforms in our fleet. We are entirely Ford aside from our Semis and many of the employees and even the ownership almost exclusively drive Ford’s personally. We have done countless UOAs at an independent laboratory. The knock down in viscosity that you see on the EB platform is almost always due to fuel dilution in the engine oil. This is why (near as we can tell) Ford tells you to run 5w30 opposed to something thinner like a 0w20.

Phillips........ ?

 

[mtsoxfan]

I get that some want to know the numbers, I'm an information junkie myself. Never have or will do an oil analysis. Not my form of entertainment.
For those that do test, what do you do with that info? If a number is off, what is the plan? Just guessing here, but I'd imagine Ford telling you that until something breaks, they aren't going to do anything. Fuel in oil would be the exception IMHO...

 

[Frenchy]

I get that some want to know the numbers, I'm an information junkie myself. Never have or will do an oil analysis. Not my form of entertainment.
For those that do test, what do you do with that info? If a number is off, what is the plan? Just guessing here, but I'd imagine Ford telling you that until something breaks, they aren't going to do anything. Fuel in oil would be the exception IMHO...

I'm with you on that. People want to get so crazy on the engine oil when many manufacturers have done a lot of research to state what's going to be best to use for many vehicles. Many here try to claim that the factory Ford engine oil that is made by who knows what company is worse for the Ford vehicle when Ford recommends it and doesn't have a problem with it.

I even remember my older brother trying to tell me that Mobile One is not very good. I argued with the fact of why many Manufacturers recommend is including GM, Nissan, multiple High End European manufacturers and so forth. He didn't seem to like that answer.

 

[Glocker]

I get that some want to know the numbers, I'm an information junkie myself. Never have or will do an oil analysis. Not my form of entertainment.
For those that do test, what do you do with that info? If a number is off, what is the plan? Just guessing here, but I'd imagine Ford telling you that until something breaks, they aren't going to do anything. Fuel in oil would be the exception IMHO...

For a minute, I agreed with you. But then I started thinking, "If I start getting the warning bells that my motor is starting to feast upon itself, it might be time to preemptively trade my truck in!"

 

[Frenchy]

For a minute, I agreed with you. But then I started thinking, "If I start getting the warning bells that my motor is starting to feast upon itself, it might be time to preemptively trade my truck in!"

If you follow the manufacturer's recommended intervals for service to start with, you have a high chance of your vehicle not having as many problems as one might think. Of course the transmission is not the same idea in this case lol.

 

[Glocker]

If you follow the manufacturer's recommended intervals for service to start with, you have a high chance of your vehicle not having as many problems as one might think. Of course the transmission is not the same idea in this case lol.

Oh for sure, but...

My patrol car saw regular service, but the motor went, and went big. A Blackstone report would have shown higher than normal metal values resulting from a cam lobe getting chewed up. Now if I personally owned that car, and I had the knowledge that something was going wrong in the motor, I'd get out of it!

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