Ford Tried To Be Tesla, And It Cost The Company Billions

[canyonslicker]

She gives me so much room you'd think she was lol...honestly, I'm one of those lucky guys who isn't hounded by the "Boss" every minute of the day...

I was like that until May when my company retired me. Now she’s broken the many years old honey do list. Tell me again what it’s like for a proper nap, please…

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[canyonslicker]

I'll take a big hot Reuben .

That’s my favorite!!!

 

[canyonslicker]

I'll take a big hot Reuben .

Also the pastrami Reuben is great.

 

[Fordup]

Actually all EVs should be leased with the manufacturers taking 100% responsibility for recycling and dealing with hazardous waste at the end of life. Can't just grind them up and melt them down like older ICE vehicles. I see California has a huge problem with old solar panels and storage batteries pilling up with no thought put into end of life when implemented.

 

[DeathRanger]

Musk must not dislike them that much, because he sure takes his fair share of them!! If it wasn't for those subsidies Tesla would be bankrupt! And remember they were totally optional, just like the tax deductions you yourself take. You can always pay full price as Musk could, but you also, do not.

https://www.tesla.com/blog/tesla-repays-department-energy-loan-nine-years-early
Tesla loan - 451 million and repaid already

https://insideevs.com/news/673434/f...s received a huge,the Ford and Lincoln brands
Ford loan - 9.2 billion and will never get repaid ?

 

[Fordup]

Also the pastrami Reuben is great.

Pastrami with freshly fermented sauerkraut on fresh baked rye.

 

[canyonslicker]

Pastrami with freshly fermented sauerkraut on fresh baked rye.

Marbled rye, grilled, ok you officially suck but in a good way, now I’m hungry. I know what’s for lunch tomorrow!!! I do love fresh sauerkraut but nobody else likes it in this house… Great on hotdogs too, like Nathan’s with natural casings and whole grain mustard!! The best.

 

[Msfitoy]

Timely coincidence but what I'm watching is very interesting...the irony of EV and dependence on coal plants hasn't escaped these hard working people...

 

[got3fords]

Musk must not dislike them that much, because he sure takes his fair share of them!! If it wasn't for those subsidies Tesla would be bankrupt! And remember they were totally optional, just like the tax deductions you yourself take. You can always pay full price as Musk could, but you also, do not.

Wow, you are quite judgemental about people you don't know. For one, industry would benefit greatly without government intervention. History proves it. Musk makes money in mutliple ways, not just EV's. Subsidies are probably just a bonus. And, the only deduction I take is the standard deduction. I am a charitable guy, but not to the point where it outways the standard. Who does?
I despise paying taxes because I know a lot of it will be wasted. Like billions of assests left in Afghanistan, paying for abortions, paying for baseless investigations into innocent ex-presidents, paying for the care millions of illegals that to effortlessly cross the border, paying for gender affirming care in schools and military, and on and on and on.
I want my taxes to pay for necessary stuff, like a competent military, high-tech national defanse, safe highways etc.

 

[Msfitoy]

Wow, you are quite judgemental about people you don't know. For one, industry would benefit greatly without government intervention. History proves it. Musk makes money in mutliple ways, not just EV's. Subsidies are probably just a bonus. And, the only deduction I take is the standard deduction. I am a charitable guy, but not to the point where it outways the standard. Who does?
I despise paying taxes because I know a lot of it will be wasted. Like billions of assests left in Afghanistan, paying for abortions, paying for baseless investigations into innocent ex-presidents, paying for the care millions of illegals that to effortlessly cross the border, paying for gender affirming care in schools and military, and on and on and on.
I want my taxes to pay for necessary stuff, like a competent military, high-tech national defanse, safe highways etc.

I'm confused...who is this addressed to, James?

 

[AzScorpion]

I think it's time to get back on topic before this goes off the rails anymore. lol

 

[Bob902]

I think it's time to get back on topic before this goes off the rails anymore. lol

Back on track? That would be a first?

 

[AzScorpion]

Back on track? That would be a first?

Well, It sounded good. ?

 

[9zero1790]

More like going woke to please the few.

Nailed it!

 

[FordFreak]

Yeah, I needed a commuter CAR for work and Ford quit making them. Honda and Toyota were out of them, so I looked at Hyundai, and I'm glad I did. I picked up a 2022

yes, because they realized they priced the crap to high. . .

no one is going to spend 90k on a vehicle that they can buy an "equivalent" vehicle for 30k.

they cut costs, become more effecient.

food is a whole other thing, that has to do with fuel, crop costs, transportation, labor, shortages, insects, sun, rain, disease. . . .

Then throw in the greedy dealerships that instantly did a "market adjustment" that weirdly enough, was the exact amount of the rebate. That turned me off to buying anything else made by Ford until they do direct to consumer sales. I've had 4 cars, and 9 trucks by Ford in my life so far.

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