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WOW! This thread went down hill in a hurry. From an extra car parked in an unused driveway to next door meth labs, in less than a page.

I agree HOAs are a PIA, and I don't and won't live in one. They do serve a purpose in keeping a neighbourhood consistent.

Regardless you do have the right and responsabilty to report suspisious activity, especially if it involves suspected illegal acts. It also means you should get to know your neighbours better.

Now an extra car, legally parked in a driveway I don’t feel is a problem. Unless it is causing a disturbance coming and going, waking you up at odd hours. As to whether he is paying taxes on his extra income, that is between him and the IRS.
 

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I love threads like these. and my ignore list grows again. Some A$$holes just think they have the right to tell everyone how to live. To that BUTTHEAD I say Kiss My A$$.
 

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Regardless you do have the right and responsabilty to report suspisious activity, especially if it involves suspected illegal acts. It also means you should get to know your neighbours better.

Now an extra car, legally parked in a driveway I don’t feel is a problem. Unless it is causing a disturbance coming and going, waking you up at odd hours. As to whether he is paying taxes on his extra income, that is between him and the IRS.

One could argue that If said suspected illegal act is only considered such because of an un-just law, it would be immoral to report.

Human trafficking.. yes.

Meth lab.. yeah.

Neighbor growing a vegetable garden... no.

Neighbor smoking a joint.. no.


The whole thing about the potential of said rented space having vehicles that are coming/going at odd hours and waking you up.... well.... the individual who's renting said space could be coming & going at odd hours themselves.. what if they have a vehicle? People have a right to come and go as they see fit.

The right to tell your neighbor what time they can have vehicles enter/exit their driveway just simply doesn't exist. Again.. if the potential neighbors potential odd schedule woukd be that big of a problem... probably shouldn't have any nieghbors.
 

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One could argue that If said suspected illegal act is only considered such because of an un-just law, it would be immoral to report.

Human trafficking.. yes.

Meth lab.. yeah.

Neighbor growing a vegetable garden... no.

Neighbor smoking a joint.. no.


The whole thing about the potential of said rented space having vehicles that are coming/going at odd hours and waking you up.... well.... the individual who's renting said space could be coming & going at odd hours themselves.. what if they have a vehicle? People have a right to come and go as they see fit.

The right to tell your neighbor what time they can have vehicles enter/exit their driveway just simply doesn't exist. Again.. if the potential neighbors potential odd schedule woukd be that big of a problem... probably shouldn't have any nieghbors.
OK, to adress your four examples of illegal activities. The first two obviously illegal. Number 3, problably NOT illegal, depending on local ordiences and what is being grown. Now, number 4, with recent law changes probably not illegal, again depending on local ordiences/laws. Also if his use is causing other issues. For the most part I agree with no.

As far as the parking goes. My intent there was if his renter is coming in noisily, reving load exhaust, slamming doors, load conversations. This would apply to the neighbor himself and require a conversation be had. Normal comings and goings are to be expected in any neighbourhood.
 


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WOW! This thread went down hill in a hurry. From an extra car parked in an unused driveway to next door meth labs, in less than a page.
The meth topic was brought up due to numerous reports, for many years, of Airbnb rentals, where some folks rented the property and contaminated the property with meth. It happens.

And if you rent out any part of your property to strangers, even the driveway, are you properly vetting these folks?
 

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Lots of people in Rural Arizona (New River / Black Canyon City) are doing this. Got 5 acres? Let a few people park an RV or boat. Got horse property? Rent out stalls.
 

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WOW! This thread went down hill in a hurry
Some people can't resist telling others how to live.

Living where it's a little pricey keeps most of the usual suspect activity away (my experience). I moved last year to my old little home town. There's no apartments at all but there are rental houses. One next to me is a rental. It's pricey for this area (people in NY an CA would laugh at how low) so you get employed people an it's a good school district so you get people trying to live in a good place to raise kids. These are keys to finding decent areas IMO. The house on the other side is a good ol boy like me. He works hard an spends all his spare time building a circle track car in his garage. I'll take a loud monster truck an Harley (mine is kinda loud too) over a nosey busybody. It's pretty rural an there's nothing close to a HOA but most homes are well maintained to keep the neighborhood decent an values up.

My driveway is big enough I could park a tour bus in it an it not block access to my garage. I could rent long term parking to someone with a motorhome or boat that lives in a neighborhood that doesn't allow them parked in their driveways.

IMO a "long term parking" agreement doesn't mean a million strangers coming an going in all hours of the night. Someone with a weekend toy their HOA won't allow being parked in the development could park here on Sunday evening an come back for it for the next weekend's fun.
 

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Good idea?

So you buy a house and you're looking forward to the security of living in a nice community with neighbors that share your values.

Next thing you know, there's a revolving door of strangers next door at the AirB&B and strangers parking in the driveway.

Have you read about the rave parties being thrown at AirB&B's and then the next folks who rent the home getting meth poisoning?

I'm at a loss to understand how properties zoned as residential can be running these businesses?

Just seems wrong on so many levels.
This happened in my uncles neighborhood. Quiet cul-de-sac in a quiet town in NJ, some landlord from NY bought a house down the street sight unseen, and now there are parties and loud music from other weird NY'ers. My mom lived in the same town and already left for the same reasons. Oh well, as long as some scumbag landlord in NY has his fee-dum to ruin neighborhoods, I guess.
 

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I live about 1 mile from Gillette Stadium. Those of us with big enough yards can park cars for $30 a pop for stadium events. Gillette charges $60 a car now so folks don’t mind walking if the weather is nice enough. That place has stuff going on year round so alway plenty of customers.

The towns caught on last year and are limiting the number of “guests” you can have. They are taxing you for the parking services during events if they know that’s what you’re doing. Only in Masshole can you get away with doing that.
That was going on when I was a kid in South Florida. All the homes near the Orange Bowl made a killing parking cars in their front yards during U of Miami Hurricanes and Miami Dolphins football games. The cars were packed like sardines for 2-5 blocks from the stadium. People parked to pay less and the Orange Bowl parking lots back then were barely adequate for large events.
 

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And if you rent out any part of your property to strangers, even the driveway, are you properly vetting these folks?
I don't even know what to think about this logic, honestly.

Before someone moves into a house/development/nieghborhood.. whatever.. are they properly vetting every individual that lives within the vicinity? Of course not, because it's unrealistic.

Picking a nice, consistent looking neighborhood to live in gives no guarantees about the moral integrity of the people who live there. I've heard many a time from EMT's how surprised they are at the frequency of overdoses they need to respond to in respectful, classy, HOA neighborhoods where the houses average 500k$+ ?‍♀

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It's funny too. The people who live in that super nice, historic, everything's-made-from-brick side of town are privileged enough to have the city put up signs like this^^ for them... and they're literally just as big of a group of degenerates as the folks on the other side of town...

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..where people shoot dope on the front steps of random buildings (feel free to zoom in) that are mostly crooked, have rotted trim, and are sided with asbestos.

No signs in that part of town telling you how many times you can drive down the street. Only the privileged get that consideration ?‍♀
 

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I don't even know what to think about this logic, honestly.

Before someone moves into a house/development/nieghborhood.. whatever.. are they properly vetting every individual that lives within the vicinity? Of course not, because it's unrealistic.
I'm afraid that finger has poked into your brain. Can you stay on topic?

The topic of the thread isn't about somebody moving into the "community". It's about somebody occupying space "on your property". You're assuming liability. You allow somebody to park on your property, and something goes wrong, now it's your problem.

Car catches on fire, car has illegal drugs in it, etc. It's on your property.
 

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I don't even know what to think about this logic, honestly.

...I've heard many a time from EMT's how surprised they are at the frequency of overdoses they need to respond to in respectful, classy, HOA neighborhoods where the houses average 500k$+ ?‍♀
We have a neighborhood out here called Grey Hawk. It's nice. Million dollar homes, gated community, north Scottsale. Swanky Digs!

And if you look at it on the crime map, it's pretty low in things like theft and burglary and stuff like that. But DUI, drugs, rape and sexual assault? It easily beats out the surrounding areas. Stepford on the outside and Compton on the inside.
 

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I'm afraid that finger has poked into your brain. Can you stay on topic?

The topic of the thread isn't about somebody moving into the "community". It's about somebody occupying space "on your property". You're assuming liability. You allow somebody to park on your property, and something goes wrong, now it's your problem.

Car catches on fire, car has illegal drugs in it, etc. It's on your property.
I'm no lawyer, but I imagine that if the parking space was rented out through the app, then the person renting wouldn't be held criminally liable for things such as drugs in the vehicle. Someone who owns a parking garage downtown wouldn't be.. christ.. if someone's vehicle got searched in my driveway and THEY had drugs... the police wouldn't be bothering ME at all because I don't own that vehicle.

The fire thing is a good point, but also not a good point.

MY vehicle could just as easily catch fire and burn down my nieghbors house as the vehicle I rent a spot to.. makes no realistic difference.

We have a neighborhood out here called Grey Hawk. It's nice. Million dollar homes, gated community, north Scottsale. Swanky Digs!

And if you look at it on the crime map, it's pretty low in things like theft and burglary and stuff like that. But DUI, drugs, rape and sexual assault? It easily beats out the surrounding areas. Stepford on the outside and Compton on the inside.

Its wild man.

The human element is pretty seedy. How much curb appeal the house they live in makes zero difference on the activities they may engage in.

I'm sure epstiens house is/was gorgeous ?
 

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I'd hardly consider renting an unused driveway space on private property a commercial venture. If there's folks out there that believe it's reasonable to consider such a thing as a commercial venture and would literally seek prosecution for such an action than I have more fear for humanity's future than I ever have.


Please don't pay the neighbor kids to mow/ rake your lawn or walk your dog... your neighborhood probably isn't zoned for that shit. I don't wanna see anyone face litigation..
You and I wouldn't but the IRS would with new laws requiring reporting of income above $600.

OK, to adress your four examples of illegal activities. The first two obviously illegal. Number 3, problably NOT illegal, depending on local ordiences and what is being grown. Now, number 4, with recent law changes probably not illegal, again depending on local ordiences/laws. Also if his use is causing other issues. For the most part I agree with no.

As far as the parking goes. My intent there was if his renter is coming in noisily, reving load exhaust, slamming doors, load conversations. This would apply to the neighbor himself and require a conversation be had. Normal comings and goings are to be expected in any neighbourhood.
Thing is, whether is statutorily illegal, the HOA can make rules against it. It may not be illegal to grow tomatoes at home, but the HOA can nix it with their bylaws and rules.
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