Ford Halts Production of the F-150 Lightning EV. That’s a Plus for Rivian.

[AzScorpion]

It'll be interesting to see what's causing this and why now? Seeing as they haven't had any issues with this in the past ones I wonder if it's just a software glitch as there's no incidences out there yet. Hopefully it's something easily fixed as Ford really can't take many more financial hits.

https://www.barrons.com/articles/ford-ev-stock-lightning-b01cdaf5?siteid=yhoof2

The company has stopped producing its all-electric F-150 Lightning pickup truck because of a potential battery issue, Ford (ticker: F) said Tuesday.


“As part of our pre-delivery quality inspections, a vehicle displayed a potential battery issue and we are holding vehicles while we investigate,” said a Ford spokeswoman in an emailed statement. “We are not aware of any incidences of this issue in the field.”

“It highlights the daunting challenge of moving from limited [production] to volume production. It also indicates that EVs require specialized engineering skills that may not exist at the traditional car makers,” says Battle Road Research founder Ben Rose. “It’s an obvious positive for Rivian, as the two are neck and neck right now for EV pickup truck leadership.”

Rivian Automotive (RIVN) shares gained about 40 cents, or 2%, from its level before the news, leaving it up 2.3% for the day. Rivian makes a competing electric-pickup truck, the R1T. Rivian delivered 20,332 vehicles in 2022. Ford delivered 15,680 Lightnings, although Ford started delivering the truck in May. Rivian had a full year of deliveries.

Ford hasn’t said when production could restart or exactly what the issue is, but company officials pointed to a battery issue. That could include the batteries purchased from suppliers, battery-pack construction, or even battery-management software common on all EVs.

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[Grumpaw]

Maybe their trying to figure out how Ram can claim a 500 mile range while Ford can only do (maybe) 300.

 

[rydfree]

It'll be interesting to see what's causing this and why now? Seeing as they haven't had any issues with this in the past ones I wonder if it's just a software glitch as there's no incidences out there yet. Hopefully it's something easily fixed as Ford really can't take many more financial hits.

https://www.barrons.com/articles/ford-ev-stock-lightning-b01cdaf5?siteid=yhoof2

I saw my first Rivian this past Sunday. Man that thing is butt ugly from the front. Even worse than in pictures or video. It was limping through the intersection with its hazard lights flashing, obviously having some issue. I'm glad I didn't put money down on a reservation and it seems I may have dodged a bullet by canceling the Lightning reservation when they couldn't build what I wanted.

 

[BettaRanga]

I saw my first Rivian this past Sunday. Man that thing is butt ugly from the front. Even worse than in pictures or video. It was limping through the intersection with its hazard lights flashing, obviously having some issue. I'm glad I didn't put money down on a reservation and it seems I may have dodged a bullet by canceling the Lightning reservation when they couldn't build what I wanted.

It’s headlights are awful.

 

[R_Willis]

Sitting in local lot:

 

[Grumpaw]

My local dealer, Campus Ford has had a Lightning Platinum on their lot for the Past 6 weeks...$98K...
wonder why it hasn't sold ? Build date is 12/07/2022, and that $98K is the window sticker price...no "dealer add-on"

 

[Grumpaw]

What I do not understand, at all, is why there is such a huge difference in "claimed range" between manufacturers ?
Ram claims around 500 miles.
Chevy claims around 400 miles.
Ford claims around 300-320 miles.
Their all basically the same as far as style/body configuration.
Assuming their all testing their trucks using the same parameters...why the difference ?
Do Ram and Chevy use "secret formula" batteries ?
Do Ram and Chevy use unicorn farts to supercharge their batteries?
Inquiring minds want to know !!!

 

[AzureRanger]

Sitting in local lot:

Not a fan of white trucks...and especially not a fan of white trucks at Lightning prices!

 

[Grumpaw]

Not a fan of white trucks...and especially not a fan of white trucks at Lightning prices!

I'm not a fan of ANY F-150 EV truck by Ford that costs almost as much as TWO Rangers AND my travel trailer !!!

 

[Ronbo]

What I do not understand, at all, is why there is such a huge difference in "claimed range" between manufacturers ?
Ram claims around 500 miles.
Chevy claims around 400 miles.
Ford claims around 300-320 miles.
Their all basically the same as far as style/body configuration.
Assuming their all testing their trucks using the same parameters...why the difference ?
Do Ram and Chevy use "secret formula" batteries ?
Do Ram and Chevy use unicorn farts to supercharge their batteries?
Inquiring minds want to know !!!

Ford may claim a range of 300-320 miles on the Lightening with the big battery, but the real world numbers are far from it. Maybe 230 if you’re lucky. And if you tow anything like a camper, your barely gonna break 100 Miles. Lightening is a local short hauler at best.

 

[AzScorpion]

I saw my first Rivian this past Sunday. Man that thing is butt ugly from the front. Even worse than in pictures or video. It was limping through the intersection with its hazard lights flashing, obviously having some issue. I'm glad I didn't put money down on a reservation and it seems I may have dodged a bullet by canceling the Lightning reservation when they couldn't build what I wanted.

I saw a Rivian a few weeks ago here and you're right... ? I'm thinking this might just be a software issue because there's no incidents reported to the ones out on the street but it could also be a supplier issue too. ?‍

 

[Bsthroop]

Ford may claim a range of 300-320 miles on the Lightening with the big battery, but the real world numbers are far from it. Maybe 230 if you’re lucky. And if you tow anything like a camper, your barely gonna break 100 Miles. Lightening is a local short hauler at best.

Yeah and don't turn on the heater or a/c either.

 

[Azhang253]

I saw my first Rivian this past Sunday. Man that thing is butt ugly from the front. Even worse than in pictures or video. It was limping through the intersection with its hazard lights flashing, obviously having some issue. I'm glad I didn't put money down on a reservation and it seems I may have dodged a bullet by canceling the Lightning reservation when they couldn't build what I wanted.

I thought they actually look pretty cool haha. To each his own I guess

I like the Rivian a lot, but the price is bonkers and the charging situation is not where I need it to be for vacations and road trips. Don’t wanna have to map out an exact route, I like to just pack up the truck and go.

Unfortunate news about the Lightning. Can they do OTA software updates? I’d imagine with the FordPass App remote start stuff it should be possible right? Hopefullyit’s just software and Ford can push an update.

 

[Grumpaw]

Ford may claim a range of 300-320 miles on the Lightening with the big battery, but the real world numbers are far from it. Maybe 230 if you’re lucky. And if you tow anything like a camper, your barely gonna break 100 Miles. Lightening is a local short hauler at best.

I'm sure Ram and Chebbie are the same....highballing their numbers. I'm sure their loaded and towing numbers would be lower, like Ford. But if all are approx. the same as far as weight and configuration, and most likely using the same testing parameters for comparison to the other brands, why such a difference ?
The batteries used be the 3 of them can't be that much different.

 

[AzScorpion]

Ford may claim a range of 300-320 miles on the Lightening with the big battery, but the real world numbers are far from it. Maybe 230 if you’re lucky. And if you tow anything like a camper, your barely gonna break 100 Miles. Lightening is a local short hauler at best.

I posted a thread on this backlash summer. This video is a great comparison on an ICE truck and a EV towing the same size trailer.

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