New SUV Recall :(

[Chris M]

https://www.foxbusiness.com/retail/ford-recalls-518k-suvs-us-possible-fuel-leak-fire-risk

Uh-oh!

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[Doc]

Lovely ….

 

[Ranger X]

Somebody needs to recall the management at the Ford Motor Company, just sayin ?

 

[Rp930]

Somebody needs to recall the management at the Ford Motor Company, just sayin ?

Why? Do you think Ford manufactures the injector? Just another vendor and something went wrong.

 

[rydfree]

https://www.foxbusiness.com/retail/ford-recalls-518k-suvs-us-possible-fuel-leak-fire-risk

Uh-oh!

They state it is a recall of the Bronco Sport and Escape yet show the Bronco . Maybe the journalist needs to be recalled , lol .

 

[AzScorpion]

With all these shortages it's just another sourced out part that was defective.

 

[MountainGoat]

It's crazy that we still have these fire risks in new vehicles in 2022. They've been catching on fire since they were invented and show no signs of slowing down, even with EVs!

 

[YaBoiNewton]

It's crazy that we still have these fire risks in new vehicles in 2022. They've been catching on fire since they were invented and show no signs of slowing down, even with EVs!

The auto industry is so fast and pushy that I would be amazed if any vehicle launched without a recall. Sure you want to consider all possible failures in development, but at the end of the day you can't think of everything and you have to sell product eventually! Lots of salaries depend on engineering teams producing designs.

I spent years finishing a development project only to spend the past two years correcting designs because new failures I never considered popped up. I tried to cover everything, but stuff happens once other people start testing your product. I'm just fortunate everything was caught well before the customer SOP and not during crash tests!

 

[Texasota]

It's crazy that we still have these fire risks in new vehicles in 2022. They've been catching on fire since they were invented and show no signs of slowing down, even with EVs!

Gasoline under high pressure. What could possibly go wrong? ?

 

[Trigganometry]

In a way I’m somewhat surprised something like this fails. Ford is an ISO company. The amount of testing that has to happen through design, prototypes, and then 4 rounds of qualifying and passing to a 1.33 CPK to prove the chances of defect at the smallest possible margins. Then the vendors that make them have to go through the same process and prove their manufacturing methods are robust and repeatable. The cherry on top is total traceability from raw materials to each lot/batch made and each person that touched them during manufacturing is recorded along with relevant output data. In todays world the proof these methods work is the longevity of engines and other power train parts. Seems some vendors need a review of their quality standards as they’re taking shortcuts for profit!

 

[UnregistredHypercam2]

I work in the cybersecurity industry and this is equally a concern for us. Due to widely dispersed supply chains, supplier risk management is the name of the game. For us it isn't engine fires, it's data that we share with them.

 

[Deleted member 15875]

In a way I’m somewhat surprised something like this fails. Ford is an ISO company. The amount of testing that has to happen through design, prototypes, and then 4 rounds of qualifying and passing to a 1.33 CPK to prove the chances of defect at the smallest possible margins. Then the vendors that make them have to go through the same process and prove their manufacturing methods are robust and repeatable. The cherry on top is total traceability from raw materials to each lot/batch made and each person that touched them during manufacturing is recorded along with relevant output data. In todays world the proof these methods work is the longevity of engines and other power train parts. Seems some vendors need a review of their quality standards as they’re taking shortcuts for profit!

Curious....I've worked for ISO orgs in the past and understand the rigor intimately, but with supply chains breaking down the last two years, OEM's had to scramble to identify alternate suppliers. I have a family member that ordered his Ford over a year ago and still no line of sight for example. So when vendors swtich suppliers on the fly, are they still following standard ISO testing protocols?

 

[Trigganometry]

Curious....I've worked for ISO orgs in the past and understand the rigor intimately, but with supply chains breaking down the last two years, OEM's had to scramble to identify alternate suppliers. I have a family member that ordered his Ford over a year ago and still no line of sight for example. So when vendors swtich suppliers on the fly, are they still following standard ISO testing protocols?

Should be but.. to your point second sources should be paramount with a company like Ford. That way your top tier supplier doesn’t hold you over the barrel beating you down with price increases and delivery demands. Should be at least 3 deep in the supply chain for qualified vendors all supplying the same inventory

 

[Deleted member 15875]

Should be but.. to your point second sources should be paramount with a company like Ford. That way your top tier supplier doesn’t hold you over the barrel beating you down with price increases and delivery demands. Should be at least 3 deep in the supply chain for qualified vendors all supplying the same inventory

CFO's are desperately trying to regain control of costs and improve profitability, but chips are still a big problem.

 

[P. A. Schilke]

The auto industry is so fast and pushy that I would be amazed if any vehicle launched without a recall. Sure you want to consider all possible failures in development, but at the end of the day you can't think of everything and you have to sell product eventually! Lots of salaries depend on engineering teams producing designs.

I spent years finishing a development project only to spend the past two years correcting designs because new failures I never considered popped up. I tried to cover everything, but stuff happens once other people start testing your product. I'm just fortunate everything was caught well before the customer SOP and not during crash tests!

Ever heard of FMEA?

Phil

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