oil level observations on a new truck

[Wytchdctr]

This has to be the weirdest car/truck I've owned with where it will show it's oil. I really wonder how many of these issues are checking at the wrong time vs real gas issues. Ive seen a few posts with real evidence of a gas problem (oil analysis not a smell test) and a few of those were a leaking high pressure pump on 2019s.

Mine recently went up over the top mark, then I realized it was on a slight incline.

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[Josebd]

two things....first, you don't speak for the forum, so this "we" stuff is pretty off base. Be a man, and step up and say its solely you. surely you can stand alone and make your claims.
second, you're determination of a fanboy is based off your self aware love of Toyota I am sure. For the record, I am not a fanboy.

you haven't added one fact to the discussion to argue any of my comments, you just simply don't agree with them, and that's fine. I can agree to disagree, but you have to add some sort of substance to your comments if you want me to show you an ounce of respect. Otherwise, I'll poke the bear.

So lets discuss "driving style" as a reason for fuel in oil comment. Lets see if you have even a minor ability to make a discussion, or just revert back to a troll. I'll gladly be educated if you have something to teach.

What causes fuel to get into oil?
clearly is needs a path to get into the crankcase.
Since it comes from injectors on this engine, the path will be in the cylinder. not much to argue there.
is this problem because of leaky injectors? sure. the fuel would leak into the cylinder and simply follow gravity down around the piston and rings and end up mixing with the oil
I am sure some of the cases people have had are exactly this scenario. but not all.

but lets look at other ways fuel will get past the rings.
major engine wear, but this is happening right from new, so nix that idea.
Break-in? perhaps, but with the manufacturing tolerances, that's been minimized over the years. they don't even tell you there is a break in period anymore. there is the likelihood that some fuel sticks to the cylinder walls and ends up past the rings before they seat fully. but this is likely very small amounts. Those that see their fuel in oil problem diminish over time are likely recipients of this "break in" period.

What about the driving? the turbo has a great effect on cylinder pressures. our driving style has a great effect on the turbo's behaviour.
Drive like a granny and you aren't putting much boost into the cylinder.
drive like an 18yr old late for prom night and youre jacking up that pressure significantly. higher and longer. with all the fuel being dumped into the cylinder on the compression stroke. with all that pressure from the boost and no where to go, it's finding a path past the rings and into the crank case. do this often, and you're going to have a bigger fuel in oil problem than gramma ever would.

Blackstone lists <2% of fuel is normal. we all have it. the Pinto had it. The Focus had it. Chevy, Dodge and Ferrari likely have fuel in oil as well.
most of us wont ever see a problem from it. we are changing oil before it becomes an issue.
So if you can intelligently argue that simplistic scenario, please do. otherwise, your comment from your first reply to me is a wash.

Sir,when I drove mine hard,up to 6000 rpms that’s when the oil level starting coming down on my dipstick,Blackstone oil report showed just a trace of fuel in oil,but everything else you said I agree with

 

[NotBudule]

I must confess , in the 10 years I had my last truck , never checked the oil , no puddle, no problem , that's my motto from now on... I would be of the opinion that the low , luggy, vibratey, wrong gear 1200 rpms to be the fuel in oil gremlin...if one really exists...
And this is 2022 damn it ! Why can't I see my oil level on the info screen ? That don't seem like a hard ask to me...

 

[Amsoil guy]

I also wish we could see our transmission temp in the menu somewhere

 

[subquark]

Lets focus on some real problems, like...
What is an acceptable # of pebbles in the tire grooves, per tire ?
Or, how many parts per million is an acceptable # for dust to have seeped into the covered bed of your Ranger ?
You STOP at a STOP sign, and wonder why there is no GO sign.
We have a summer gas and a winter gas....why no spring or fall gas ?
Change your oil every 3-4000 miles and just drive your truck !!!

That's a good list of real issues except for probably something so glaring and such a part of our lives, particularly those of us with Ford Rangers, that it's hard to think about: tailgate dampers ...

 

[subquark]

no puddle, no problem

My driveway is my meter and I live by the words above.

 

[Josebd]

I must confess , in the 10 years I had my last truck , never checked the oil , no puddle, no problem , that's my motto from now on... I would be of the opinion that the low , luggy, vibratey, wrong gear 1200 rpms to be the fuel in oil gremlin...if one really exists...
And this is 2022 damn it ! Why can't I see my oil level on the info screen ? That don't seem like a hard ask to me...

I put mine in tow mode in town,or when I feel feisty I put it in sport mode to keep rpm up in town

 

[JustSteve]

let me be the first to say goodbye
see ya.

But I will miss all you Ford fanboys who like to try to convince those of us with an oil dilution issue to stick our heads in the sand like you.

"It's your fault because you don't drive it right. Ranger's aren't meant to be driven short distances or slow. That is why Ford clearly states that when you buy the truck. Stupid customers. Ford knows best."

 

[JustSteve]

I wonder if driving hard actually helps with dilution. My break in was hard, I drove it hard and after a few hundred miles took it to redline often, and still do. I've been lucky and havn't had any issues with dilution, my Type R on the other hand.. Sheesh that thing had gallons of gas in the oil lol. I think the subaru guys say a redline a day keeps the mechanics away

Didn't help my Ranger with oil dilution

 

[Grumpaw]

Oil Dilution...
Tranny Fluid...
Leaning...
Shocks...
Fuel Mileage...
Towing and Loads...
Oil Dilution...
Squeaky Damper...
Oil Dilution...
Aruuuuuugh.....so much to worry about and not enough time.....what to do ????
Buy a Chebbie ??? Buy a Taco ??? Buy a Nessie ???
What is the difference between a giant shrimp and a jumbo shrimp ???
Why do African elephants have bigger ears than Indian elephants ???
If Skippy, Peter Pan, and Jif are all made with the same ingredients, why do they taste different ???
Worry Worry Worry...what to do, what to do ???
May have to go to Yoda for all the answers !!!

 

[NotBudule]

Buy a Chebbie ???

Is that a chubby Debbie? I know her !

 

[JustSteve]

since you likely reported my original reply and had it removed like the Karen you are, I'll soften it a little ..... look in the mirror at yourself before you try and throw darts at others.
make stuff up and project your bad attitude onto others and I will poke back at you.

the mods are failing here...they let you call well known and respected members "Ford Fanboys" in a derogatory sense and do nothing about it. Talk about enabling.

I wont miss when you leave, and i'm sure i'm not alone.

Not me. I didn't report you or anyone else. I can take it.

 

[Grumpaw]

Not me. I didn't report you or anyone else. I can take it.

Let me give you something else to worry about, to keep you up at night ....
Your oil may not only be diluted, it may also be polluted !!!
Now you can send the sample out and ask for a dilute and pollute test !!!

 

[JustSteve]

Let me give you something else to worry about, to keep you up at night ....
Your oil may not only be diluted, it may also be polluted !!!
Now you can send the sample out and ask for a dilute and pollute test !!!

Are we just making stupid comments now? Some have oil dilution issues. Ford isn't doing anything about it. In fact, they are covering it up in some (most?) cases. But go ahead, make jokes that no one understands because your Ranger isn't one of those affected.

 

[AvockAdoo]

Are we just making stupid comments now? Some have oil dilution issues. Ford isn't doing anything about it. In fact, they are covering it up in some (most?) cases. But go ahead, make jokes that no one understands because your Ranger isn't one of those affected.

Steve, this is clearly a battle you aren't going to win. Kudos for going down swinging, but at this point you've made an enemy out of a good portion of this forum. Not because you brought up issues, but because you've been name calling, slinging insults, and blowing an issue out of proportion that already has a 20+ page thread about it. The sample size is small, there are some issues, ford has a history of covering things up, everybody on here is *RIGHT* so stop bantering on. This is a place for help diagnosing issues, posting pictures of the truck that (most) of us love, and its 100% a place for fanboying about the truck. I was a toyota fanboy before, and now I REALLY like my ranger. Its not without issues, but I would never come on here as hot as you have and start insulting everyone who spent $35K+ on a truck that they love.

Do like you've said you would and just leave us alone. If our engines grenade, that's just it - it will be OUR engines. And we can all say to ourselves that you were right, but until then, stop being a troll.

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