New truck needing a new turbo

[Ericj]

I bought a 2022 tremor xlt on Feb 22nd (about 10 days ago) and the truck threw the powertrain malfunction code on the way home from the dealership. I took the truck to a local dealer to have it looked at. The few dealership service centers near me told me it would be a month before they could even look at it, but Billy Howell Ford got me in the following day thankfully.
They said it was the turbo waste gate, which they replaced a few days later however it did not resolve the issue. They are now replacing the entire turbo and we are waiting on parts. I should have the truck back by early next week. Luckily, they had a loaner vehicle so I have something to drive while we wait.
They did not indicate that this was common, however they had a new Bronco in for a similar issue. Another member on this forum is dealing with a similar issue with his 2022 truck, and as mentioned in his thread, I also wonder if the turbo part is from a different manufacturer than previous years as I cannot find any similar problems mentioned with owners of the 2019-2021 trucks.
Anyone else having turbo related issues? I hope that this is sorted with the new turbo and not an ongoing failure part.

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[Stevedbvik1]

I think the part number for the 2022 turbo would answer the question if it changed from 2019-2021

 

[Porpoise Hork]

I have seen a couple people post up a while back that they had to have the wastegate actuators replaced. No turbos that I can recall.

 

[mailbox4449]

Moderator might want to merge the other current thread about this same issue??

Turbo wastegate stuck shut/wire issue

 

[wanted33]

Anytime a company is sourcing parts from the outside there can be problems. Usually those problems come in batches. Meaning if there is one bad one, there is probably more. Take a look at the folks that received there 2.7L Bronco just to have the engine take a crap, evidently because of a bad batch of valves. Of course this situation with sourced parts doen't make it any better for the owner of a new vehicle sitting in pieces in their dealers service dept. Good luck, I hope your Ranger is fixed to your satisfaction.

https://www.bronco6g.com/forum/threads/2-7l-blown-engine-fail-list-40-so-far-feb-25-update.31951/

 

[Megawatt]

That sux. Hope it gets fix fast, correctly and to your satisfaction.

 

[Ericj]

Anytime a company is sourcing parts from the outside there can be problems. Usually those problems come in batches. Meaning if there is one bad one, there is probably more. Take a look at the folks that received there 2.7L Bronco just to have the engine take a crap, evidently because of a bad batch of valves. Of course this situation with sourced parts doen't make it any better for the owner of a new vehicle sitting in pieces in their dealers service dept. Good luck, I hope your Ranger is fixed to your satisfaction.

https://www.bronco6g.com/forum/threads/2-7l-blown-engine-fail-list-40-so-far-feb-25-update.31951/

Thanks. This is what I am worried about happening. If they put the same turbo that is from that faulty outsourced manufacturer, it may fail again. Hopefully they have identified this issue and install one that is more reliable.

 

[Stevedbvik1]

A

Thanks. This is what I am worried about happening. If they put the same turbo that is from that faulty outsourced manufacturer, it may fail again. Hopefully they have identified this issue and install one that is more reliable.

A. All turbos on automobiles are “outsourced “ No OEM builds their own
B. All newer turbos are engine model/application specific
C. Other turbo manufacturers won’t have anything to replace whats on the 2.3L ecoboost.

 

[Ericj]

That sux. Hope it gets fix fast, correctly and to your satisfaction.

I appreciate it. I hope they can get it going soon. I feel like my truck purchase was just a dream, LOL. Glad I took a pic f it the one day it was in my driveway!

 

[P. A. Schilke]

Anytime a company is sourcing parts from the outside there can be problems. Usually those problems come in batches. Meaning if there is one bad one, there is probably more. Take a look at the folks that received there 2.7L Bronco just to have the engine take a crap, evidently because of a bad batch of valves. Of course this situation with sourced parts doen't make it any better for the owner of a new vehicle sitting in pieces in their dealers service dept. Good luck, I hope your Ranger is fixed to your satisfaction.

https://www.bronco6g.com/forum/threads/2-7l-blown-engine-fail-list-40-so-far-feb-25-update.31951/

Hi Jim,

You are correct for sourced parts... a bad batch can impact many vehicles...The Dana center bearing issue for example. Looks like Turbos are in the same boat now....Drat!

Best,
Phil

 

[wanted33]

Thanks. This is what I am worried about happening. If they put the same turbo that is from that faulty outsourced manufacturer, it may fail again. Hopefully they have identified this issue and install one that is more reliable.

I don't want to scare you Eric, but there are a couple instances were that has happened to new Bronco owners. There are two on the B6g forum that have had their second 2.7L fall apart. I do hope that doesn't happen with yours. Good luck.

 

[wanted33]

Hi Jim,

You are correct for sourced parts... a bad batch can impact many vehicles...The Dana center bearing issue for example. Looks like Turbos are in the same boat now....Drat!

Best,
Phil

Phil I have a question that has been rattling around in my head that you may be able to answer. When a sourced part causes warranty work, does Ford charge the cost back to the supplier? Something like the 2.7L failures could cost Ford a ton.

 

[dtech]

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A. All turbos on automobiles are “outsourced “ No OEM builds their own
B. All newer turbos are engine model/application specific
C. Other turbo manufacturers won’t have anything to replace whats on the 2.3L ecoboost.

mitsubishi used mitsu turbos in their cars at one time, not sure what they do currently, the mitsu td04 was used in their engines as well as those of other makers some yrs back.

 

[Stevedbvik1]

mitsubishi used mitsu turbos in their cars at one time, not sure what they do currently, the mitsu td04 was used in their engines as well as those of other makers some yrs back.

Mitsubishi also makes sewing machines and toasters. Large conglomerate. They do still build turbos for lots of applications. Our 2021 Honda CRV had a TD03 on it. Toyota used to build turbos also but not on their own vehicles now. Most likely Mitsubishi is using their own turbos currently but it is the exception not the norm. My statement addressed current production gasoline automobiles.

 

[P. A. Schilke]

Phil I have a question that has been rattling around in my head that you may be able to answer. When a sourced part causes warranty work, does Ford charge the cost back to the supplier? Something like the 2.7L failures could cost Ford a ton.

Hi Jim,

Short answer is yes, part of the sourcing agreement usually contains charge back for warranty, but it can get somewhat sticky depending on what the issue is. Look at Toyota Frames rotting through...took years of negotiating with Dana before it became a cost sharing agreement... Shipping faulty parts is pretty straight forward for charge backs... Example...A company, who I will not name, shipped in steering shaft couplers with cracks in the pinch bolt clamp to the steering gear splines... The charge back would have tanked the company and then we would not have parts for production, so there was some negotiations necessary to get good parts and Ford ate some of the recall costs...

Best,
Phil

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