Upgrade cabin air filters due out this year from Ford

[ScrappyLaptop]

Not so much a mod as an OEM upgrade. Not sure really how much good it will do though, if the ventilation system keeps automatically disabling recirculate. Maybe opening to outside air & then cleaning it, repeatedly could be a balance between two non-ideal situations? If nothing else, it might be a good way to sell more filters.

Kinda makes me wonder if this is a spin-off of the project they had where they used off the shelf F-150 ventilation parts to build medical respirators last year for hospitals.

Ford Has a New Cabin Air Filter to Help You Breathe Easier
https://www.autoweek.com/news/indus...w-cabin-air-filter-to-help-you-breath-easier/

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[halligan1201]

Not so much a mod as an OEM upgrade. Not sure really how much good it will do though, if the ventilation system keeps automatically disabling recirculate. Maybe opening to outside air & then cleaning it, repeatedly could be a balance between two non-ideal situations? If nothing else, it might be a good way to sell more filters.

Kinda makes me wonder if this is a spin-off of the project they had where they used off the shelf F-150 ventilation parts to build medical respirators last year for hospitals.

Ford Has a New Cabin Air Filter to Help You Breathe Easier
https://www.autoweek.com/news/indus...w-cabin-air-filter-to-help-you-breath-easier/

Project Apollo. It's a large part of what made me come back to Ford after 20 years of other cars. While GM and Musk were bickering with the government over costs, Ford found a company that built ventilators and in a weekend developed a plan on how to start building them. And then did. Before any talks of government contracts. Without threats to be forced to. Because it was the right thing to do for the country and they had the ability to do it. Same thing they did for iron lungs during polio. And everything that could be built during WW2. The only American car company that didn't go bankrupt after the 2008 collapse. Reminds me of the line from Ford V Ferrari "You think Roosevelt beat Hitler? Think again. This isn't the first time Ford has gone to war".

As an emergency responder and a sentimental patriotic dude, I felt obligated to buy my next vehicle from Ford.

 

[VAMike]

Project Apollo. It's a large part of what made me come back to Ford after 20 years of other cars. While GM and Musk were bickering with the government over costs, Ford found a company that built ventilators and in a weekend developed a plan on how to start building them. And then did. Before any talks of government contracts. Without threats to be forced to. Because it was the right thing to do for the country and they had the ability to do it.

For the record, that's not actually what happened. Both Ford and GM worked with other companies to find the most effective way to utilize limited resources for the most good. It's a shame that got politicized into good guys and bad guys, when the truth is that everyone was working hard and doing good work.

 

[Jrel209]

I dont get it…. Is the ranger already compatible for when this comes out?

 

[halligan1201]

For the record, that's not actually what happened. Both Ford and GM worked with other companies to find the most effective way to utilize limited resources for the most good. It's a shame that got politicized into good guys and bad guys, when the truth is that everyone was working hard and doing good work.

Ford found a company, worked with them on the manufacturing process in the course of a weekend, and were building ventilation units almost two months ahead of GM. Because GM didn't want to commit until a contract was settled. And this doesn't include PPE products. Which Ford is still making and donating. It's not good guy/bad guy, it's recognizing the need and taking immediate action instead of waiting for bureaucracy to figure it out. And coming from someone who was and still is dealing with all this, we were grateful for it.

 

[ScrappyLaptop]

Ford found a company, worked with them on the manufacturing process in the course of a weekend, and were building ventilation units almost two months ahead of GM. Because GM didn't want to commit until a contract was settled. And this doesn't include PPE products. Which Ford is still making and donating. It's not good guy/bad guy, it's recognizing the need and taking immediate action instead of waiting for bureaucracy to figure it out. And coming from someone who was and still is dealing with all this, we were grateful for it.

They did so with multiple companies, to make everything from PPE to PAPRs to collection kits for testing. Makes me proud to drive a Ford.

https://media.ford.com/content/ford...rd-to-produce-respirators-masks-covid-19.html

 

[VAMike]

Ford found a company, worked with them on the manufacturing process in the course of a weekend, and were building ventilation units almost two months ahead of GM. Because GM didn't want to commit until a contract was settled. And this doesn't include PPE products. Which Ford is still making and donating. It's not good guy/bad guy, it's recognizing the need and taking immediate action instead of waiting for bureaucracy to figure it out. And coming from someone who was and still is dealing with all this, we were grateful for it.

Yeah, that's the part that isn't true. GM was working with suppliers to do things like draw up plans and create molds/tooling at GM's cost before any contracts were lined up. The idea that they were sitting around doing nothing is simply wrong. You may poo poo bureaucracy but it's kinda important when doing stuff at this scale that you actually do the right thing. What if you make a million ventilators and suck resources away from something else which might be more important? Coordination is important. (Just as it was in WWII--Ford didn't just decide to build a bunch of tanks, they were assigned production tasks and allocated resources by the war production board.) The main difference between the Ford and GM projects was that Ford built a simpler ventilator. There are advantages to that, but also disadvantages. Neither design is a complete substitute for the other. Having two groups building complimentary designs probably made sense; treating them as competitors in the shared effort does not.

 

[ScrappyLaptop]

Here's an article that mentions both GM & Ford. You can find good points and bad about either company & continue the thread ad nauseum or let it go, your choice.

https://www.freep.com/story/money/c...last-ventilators-amid-coronavirus/3449490001/

 

[Jason B]

Not so much a mod as an OEM upgrade. Not sure really how much good it will do though, if the ventilation system keeps automatically disabling recirculate. Maybe opening to outside air & then cleaning it, repeatedly could be a balance between two non-ideal situations? If nothing else, it might be a good way to sell more filters.

Does that matter for filtration? I assumed the air passes thru the filter in either mode.

 

[Cabose-1]

Do our rangers have a cabin air filter?? I am checking now!

 

[micl9]

Do our rangers have a cabin air filter?? I am checking now!

Yes! I think all modern vehicles do.
Anyway I change mine every spring after the yellow pine pollen stops, along with engine air-filter.

 

[Cabose-1]

Yes! I think all modern vehicles do.
Anyway I change mine every spring after the yellow pine pollen stops, along with engine air-filter.

It does have one haha!! Great news! Well i learned something new!

 

[ScrappyLaptop]

Does that matter for filtration? I assumed the air passes thru the filter in either mode.

It does matter when it's really smokey or a high pollen day or you drive through a dust cloud from someone plowing a dry field. If the system is set on recirculate and would stay in recirculate, the filter only has to collect the pollutants one time. But if it opens up again to vent automatically, a whole new cabin full of smoke/pollen/dust gets loaded up on the filter, maybe continuously.
Not 100% sure I'm explaining that thought correctly, haven't had my morning coffee yet.

Update: the rest of my thought
It matters to filtration because if it has to filter a constant influx of outside air, the filter will require more frequent replacement. Usually, the finer the filter the quicker it clogs because it's catching more of the airborne particles.

 

[Matt20714]

Project Apollo. It's a large part of what made me come back to Ford after 20 years of other cars. While GM and Musk were bickering with the government over costs, Ford found a company that built ventilators and in a weekend developed a plan on how to start building them. And then did. Before any talks of government contracts. Without threats to be forced to. Because it was the right thing to do for the country and they had the ability to do it. Same thing they did for iron lungs during polio. And everything that could be built during WW2. The only American car company that didn't go bankrupt after the 2008 collapse. Reminds me of the line from Ford V Ferrari "You think Roosevelt beat Hitler? Think again. This isn't the first time Ford has gone to war".

As an emergency responder and a sentimental patriotic dude, I felt obligated to buy my next vehicle from Ford.

interesting and very cool. Thanks for sharing!

 

[Guardstang]

I sell cabin filters and I think they are there more to protect the blower motor and HVAC system than to filter pollen.

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