Notice to those who have replaced lug nuts

[OrangeStreak]

Thanks for doing the research...

I keep the Gorilla Key Socket for the lock lugs in it's original packaging, along with the 4 stock lug nuts, place it in a zip lock bag, and place it in the storage compartment where the jack is.

Another thing.... Do you have a torque wrench? You should be using one to torque the lugs. The specification is 100 ft-lbs.

John,
I was thinking about storing the locks and tools in the same place as you suggested. I know the torque specs are important but I don't have a torque wrench. I always have the tires rotated by the service center at each oil change so they torque them. I don't ever pull the tires off myself and a good chance I never will, but just in case I got into an isolated area where roadside assistance wasn't available, I would pull them if there was a need. I would just install the spare (with the breaker bar) and try to remember the tightness that I used when I did it by hand in my younger days. I would get the Truck to a shop as soon as possible and have them install the original tire back on and torque to specs...

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[OrangeStreak]

My torque wrench!

Rick,
You've posted my picture along with the invisible torque wrench that I use too

 

[OrangeStreak]

John,
I was thinking about storing the locks and tools in the same place as you suggested. I know the torque specs are important but I don't have a torque wrench. I always have the tires rotated by the service center at each oil change so they torque them. I don't ever pull the tires off myself and a good chance I never will, but just in case I got into an isolated area where roadside assistance wasn't available, I would pull them if there was a need. I would just install the spare (with the breaker bar) and try to remember the tightness that I used when I did it by hand in my younger days. I would get the Truck to a shop as soon as possible and have them install the original tire back on and torque to specs...

John,
I was thinking about storing the locks and tools in the same place as you suggested. I know the torque specs are important but I don't have a torque wrench. I always have the tires rotated by the service center at each oil change so they torque them. I don't ever pull the tires off myself and a good chance I never will, but just in case I got into an isolated area where roadside assistance wasn't available, I would pull them if there was a need. I would just install the spare (with the breaker bar) and try to remember the tightness that I used when I did it by hand in my younger days. I would get the Truck to a shop as soon as possible and have them install the original tire back on and torque to specs...

 

[HenryMac]

John,
I was thinking about storing the locks and tools in the same place as you suggested. I know the torque specs are important but I don't have a torque wrench. I always have the tires rotated by the service center at each oil change so they torque them. I don't ever pull the tires off myself and a good chance I never will, but just in case I got into an isolated area where roadside assistance wasn't available, I would pull them if there was a need. I would just install the spare (with the breaker bar) and try to remember the tightness that I used when I did it by hand in my younger days. I would get the Truck to a shop as soon as possible and have them install the original tire back on and torque to specs...

Be sure to ask them, every time, to torque them, by hand, with a torque wrench. Many shops don't.

Happy Trails..

 

[OrangeStreak]

Be sure to ask them, every time, to torque them, by hand, with a torque wrench. Many shops don't.

Happy Trails..

I've heard that's preferable over using an impact wrench?

 

[Trigganometry]

I've heard that's preferable over using an impact wrench?

An impact wrench in unison with Torque Stick Sets and an impact socket will get you within +/- 2 ft lbs. Just select the proper stick for 100 ft lbs and go at it.

 

[OrangeStreak]

An impact wrench in unison with Torque Stick Sets and an impact socket will get you within +/- 2 ft lbs. Just select the proper stick for 100 ft lbs and go at it.

Assuming that you start with the impact wrench and then do the final turns with the Torque Stick to hit the right setting?

 

[HenryMac]

I've heard that's preferable over using an impact wrench?

Correct. Never use an impact wrench to torque anything to a specific torque. Use a torque wrench.

Assuming that you start with the impact wrench and then do the final turns with the Torque Stick to hit the right setting?

I install them by hand, use a 4-way wrench to snug them, then using the torque wrench set the torque 3 times.. 50 ft-lbs, 75 ft-lbs and then 100 ft-lbs.

 

[Trigganometry]

Assuming that you start with the impact wrench and then do the final turns with the Torque Stick to hit the right setting?

This is just me, I start with a 90 ft lb stick and star pattern tighten. Then go to the 100 ft lb and finish them off in the same sequence. Never had a problem

 

[PltFX4]

Can i just confirm with you guys that this is the correct lug nut from Gorilla for our trucks? Thank you!
https://www.amazon.com/Gorilla-Auto...rilla+automotive+41137b&qid=1623415115&sr=8-2

I guess the heat treated ones are better:
https://www.amazon.com/Gorilla-Automotive-41137HTB-Treated-Thread/dp/B00280BNPG/ref=sr_1_1?dchild=1&keywords=gorilla+automotive+41137htb&qid=1623415448&sr=8-1&th=1

I can't find on Amazon any Gorilla that the Amazon fitment guide says fits the Ranger...

 

[P. A. Schilke]

I can't find on Amazon any Gorilla that the Amazon fitment guide says fits the Ranger...

Hi Richard,

The ones shown in the picture do not have enough bearing area in the 60° cone area...

best,
Phil

 

[PltFX4]

Hi Richard,

The ones shown in the picture do not have enough bearing area in the 60° cone area...

best,
Phil

Agreed... but the ad is from the links in a couple above posts that said that's what they used and are happy campers... can't figure out how they could be.... or ignorance is bliss (or I'm just not getting it).

As I was unaware of the lug nut issue at all, when I found this thread (and looked in the referenced other threads) I was hoping to find the Gorilla part number or some other "good" brand to use. But all the links indicate that there is no Gorilla brand that works (Looked at Summit Racing, JEGs, Amazon) and they all say none work (properly... yea they will thread on, have 60 deg angle but not the wide seat) with the Ranger.

So, to be an optimally useful thread, I would love to see (I would measure mine but have the summer wheels on and the OEM wheels and nuts are stored at the place that switches them for me spring/late fall so I don't have access to them):

1. The specs of the OEM nut...​

a. 12x1.5 mm​

b. 3/4" nut socket size.​

c. 60 deg seat angle​

d. Top of seat diameter.. ???​

e. total seat height... ???​

f. Overall height of nut... 1.38" (???)​

g. depth of the "hole" vs threaded depth... ???​

h. what model years is this "bad" nut issue, well, an issue??
Think that is all... the specs

Then, links/list of brands, that are the correct versions we need. (I don't want much )...

Then POST in the DIY forum for all to see and know... this is a significant issue for any new comers to find.

 

[micl9]

I got an extra set with the takeoffs I bought. So here are the measurements

I have some DP Bulge Acorns coming in tomorrow and will measure them. They look to be the same as McGard and Gorilla.
I love the way niether of these Mfgs give the diameter at the top of the taper, as if its not important....
Love this one - the diameter is somehow the same as the hex size

In actuality it looks to be about the distance across the points of the hex, which for 3/4 is 0.87. This is only a 0.04 delta to stock, or 0.20" on a side. Close enough? Maybe.
What we really need to know is the diameter at the bottom to really compare the contact area. By my eye it looks smaller, much smaller. If this is the case it could have a pretty significant impact to contact area.
If anybody has any of these three aftermarket lugs, can you measure the 2 diameters?

 

[Langwilliams]

I found some cheap ones that match the factory ones perfect. Same cone shape an size, same length an same socket size. Only problem with the one I tried to test fit was it wouldn't spin on by hand. This resistance has me worried. I had to run it on with wrench. I took it off an ran the factory one on an it was fine, put the same replacement on an it ran on fine. I still haven't installed the other 23.

 

[RecoilOperated]

Wonder why some of these aftermarket lug nuts say not to be used with OEM wheels ?

My guess (and it's just that) is that some OEM wheels don't have the same seat shape for the lugs as aftermarket wheels do since OEMs are hub centric and most aftermarket wheels are lug centric.

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