Winter is coming...

[D Fresh]

20+ years ago as a teenager I spun out and slid deep enough into a ditch in my old cutlas that i couldn't get out, I was about to call a tow truck when a guy stopped by to help pull me out.

He got me out quick. but for the next couple of months of owning that vehicle wouldn't drive straight. he bent one of the linkages, in the front wheel.

now I didn't care I paid cash for said car. and in February the following year I bought my first new car.

however when you pull someone out and you don't know the correct points to attach to then don't pull them out. you can break more things very easily.

That said being nice to motorists i trouble is always good.

My wife is a Nurse, she doesn't like me saying that because if a situation happens and she applies first aid and the person dies,or is injured from her first aid care that person or their relatives can sue us and take everything including our home away from us. because that is how medical liability is handled in the USA.

being a good sarmitan can be very expensive.

Does New Hampshire not have some sort of "Good Samaritan" law?

https://sweeneylawfirm.com/content/good-samaritan-laws

For trained medical persons attempting to aid others in a medical sense, good samaritan laws usually apply as long as the person is off the clock. Monetary compensation often makes void the protection of good samaritan laws.

"Live free or Die?"

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[Peragrin]

Does New Hampshire not have some sort of "Good Samaritan" law?

https://sweeneylawfirm.com/content/good-samaritan-laws




"Live free or Die?"

That was in New York also in New hampshire car onsurance is optional.(limitaons apply) so you never know if the person who hits you or helps you is insured

 

[D Fresh]

That was in New York also in New hampshire car onsurance is optional.(limitaons apply) so you never know if the person who hits you or helps you is insured

That's rough.

I'm as anti insurance as they come but basic liability requirements seem to be the right move to me.

I mean, I guess it does seem a mostly Libertarian set of regulations, maybe just a bit too "Lord of the Flys"ish.

"Live and Let Die" perhaps then?

 

[subquark]

Just wondering what you guys are using for tow straps, hitches, hooks, shackles, any and all info would be appreciated. Thank you.

I don't want to buy something that hasn't really been tested or has fake reviews. Let me know what you keep on you and if you've had to use it.​

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If this thread has already been done a million times, then I'll delete it if you can link me to sort of master database for this.

Gear for being recovered, and also recovering.
I'll link some of the things I've been looking at myself:

Sunferno Recovery Tow Strap 35000lb

Shackle Hitch Receiver 2 inch with Hitch Pin, 41918 Lbs Break

Rhino USA Kinetic Recovery Tow Rope

CURT 45500 Forged Tow Hook

COFIT 47" Retractable Snow Shovel

Trailer Hitch
B&W Tow & Stow 3-ball 5-inch drop
https://www.bwtrailerhitches.com/product/tow-stow-adjustable-ball-mount
3 replacement pins
https://www.bwtrailerhitches.com/product/stainless-steel-replacement-pin

Hitch Lock
AmpLock hitch pin HLP58
https://www.amplock.com/product/hlp58/?hitch-lock

Anti-Rattle Hitch Clamp
Bulletproof anti-rattle clamp
https://www.bulletproofhitches.com/products/2-bulletproof-anti-rattle-clamp
note: changed to shorter 3/4" bolt

Recovery Gear
Heavy-duty recovery tow straps 3"x20' x2
1/2” synthetic soft shackle
5/16" synthetic soft shackles x2
Aluminum hitch receiver mega shackle
https://www.gearamerica.com/

Ratchet Straps
Strapinno retractable ratchet straps 1"x10' x4
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B08RW67ZH4

Need to get some tire chains soon ...

And a 50-year old come-along:

 

[Radioman]

Does New Hampshire not have some sort of "Good Samaritan" law?

https://sweeneylawfirm.com/content/good-samaritan-laws




"Live free or Die?"

I could be wrong, but I believe most "Good Samaritan" laws help to protect a good samaritan in the case of personal injury but not in the case of property damage.

 

[D Fresh]

I could be wrong, but I believe most "Good Samaritan" laws help to protect a good samaritan in the case of personal injury but not in the case of property damage.

Pretty sure you're right.

I was speaking more to to his wife's fear of being sued from trying to help out in an emergency. That's not a fear anybody with the ability to help should fear.

 

[9zero1790]

Trailer Hitch
B&W Tow & Stow 3-ball 5-inch drop
https://www.bwtrailerhitches.com/product/tow-stow-adjustable-ball-mount
3 replacement pins
https://www.bwtrailerhitches.com/product/stainless-steel-replacement-pin

Hitch Lock
AmpLock hitch pin HLP58
https://www.amplock.com/product/hlp58/?hitch-lock

Anti-Rattle Hitch Clamp
Bulletproof anti-rattle clamp
https://www.bulletproofhitches.com/products/2-bulletproof-anti-rattle-clamp
note: changed to shorter 3/4" bolt

Recovery Gear
Heavy-duty recovery tow straps 3"x20' x2
1/2” synthetic soft shackle
5/16" synthetic soft shackles x2
Aluminum hitch receiver mega shackle
https://www.gearamerica.com/

Ratchet Straps
Strapinno retractable ratchet straps 1"x10' x4
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B08RW67ZH4

Need to get some tire chains soon ...

And a 50-year old come-along:

thats a ramsey! i bet it still works like a champ lol.

 

[subquark]

thats a ramsey! i bet it still works like a champ lol.

Good eye! A 1962 power take-off Ramsey winch with a bracket I made.

Yes, it's been used for 20 years.

Now it's all getting restored by my daughter, so cable removed and one task will be to take it apart, clean it, grease it, and put it back. Need to also see about fixing the PTO shaft, it's got a small bend in it ...

 

[Canadian Ranger]

I'm in New Brunswick Canada, so I know all about snow lol.
I keep a round mouthed shovel and two, 4 foot pieces, of used snowmobile track in my vehicle. They're my inexpensive version of recovery boards, and a round mouthed shovel moves hard packed snow and ice much better than a snow shovel.

 

[Nellieg]

Got m 74mustang stuck 6' in a muddy cornfield as a kid in the late 70s... Extracted it using my jacket and shirt and car mats under the rear tires...today I keep a waffle mats and a come along with rhino tow straps these days... My mom was ticked I destroyed my clothes... Went without that jacket that year. My dad was impressed getting it out... He replaced the car mats... Not sure how my wife would react if I came home topless

 

[9zero1790]

Good eye! A 1962 power take-off Ramsey winch with a bracket I made.

Yes, it's been used for 20 years.

Now it's all getting restored by my daughter, so cable removed and one task will be to take it apart, clean it, grease it, and put it back. Need to also see about fixing the PTO shaft, it's got a small bend in it ...

awesome project! Im not an expert on winches or but I know the folks in the recovery and tow business are fond of ramsey more so than many other brands. Id love to have one for my 5g but they cost a kidney these days.

 

[9zero1790]

Got m 74mustang stuck 6' in a muddy cornfield as a kid in the late 70s... Extracted it using my jacket and shirt and car mats under the rear tires...today I keep a waffle mats and a come along with rhino tow straps these days... My mom was ticked I destroyed my clothes... Went without that jacket that year. My dad was impressed getting it out... He replaced the car mats... Not sure how my wife would react if I came home topless

better than wife coming in topless lol.

 

[subquark]

Tough about the good Samaritan stories that go south. Anyone can sue for anything and even if they're wrong, you still have to defend against it. Good luck suing for your court costs. =(

BUT it really does throw a damper (and not the great tailgate kind) on trying to do what's right.

I was a state-certified Firefighter and Paramedic in Texas (volunteer for 3 years) and used to carry my gear in the FJ40.

I no longer carry an enormous first responder kit, just a small first-aid one for me and Kate. But I do have recovery gear. It'll be interesting to see if I use it this year, I do worry about what many are saying on this thread.

On a non-gonna-get-sued note, I thought I'd get a really nice set of snow chains since I'm just 2-wheel drive. I tend to think of recovery gear as mud-related, but winter's tough. I also want to carry a snow shovel like this (used to carry a normal shovel for off-roading):

I was looking at these tire chains, they're very expensive but they seem very good:

https://www.konigchain.com/shop/us-en/konig-xg-12-pro-1.html

 

[D Fresh]

I'm in New Brunswick Canada, so I know all about snow lol.
I keep a round mouthed shovel and two, 4 foot pieces, of used snowmobile track in my vehicle. They're my inexpensive version of recovery boards, and a round mouthed shovel moves hard packed snow and ice much better than a snow shovel.

I spend a lot of time over the winters at the dairy helping drivers who've managed to get themselves stuck.

I've always found a flat edge to be best for hard packed snow and ice. Like this garden spade...

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Round headed shovels never worked as well for me as the flat edge. You're relying upon the blunt force of the tiny point to break that stuff up.

Whereas, with the flat edge above you have 7 ¼" of contact area when used for "chopping ice."

This one...

...won't get more than a couple of inches contacting the ice unless you penetrate pretty deep.

Am I missing something?

 

[sal33n]

Hello,

In regards to those commenting on the legal implications of being a good Samaritan, what if you printed out a contract like below and kept them in your vehicle for when you do come across someone in need of help? If they don't want to sign then you don't help. I am certainly not a lawyer so I apologize if the wording needs work. I typed this up in 10 minutes. Any lawyers here? Would this hold up?

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Sorry, the formatting below for signature and date did not come through correctly.



I, _____________, hereby acknowledge that my vehicle is immobilized, stuck, disabled or otherwise incapable of returning to the road without the assistance from other parties or vehicles/equipment/devices.

By signing this document, I agree to give my permission to __________ in order to attempt recovery of my vehicle from it's current situation by whatever means is employed. This also extends to any other parties involved with the recovery attempt.

I agree to take full responsibility for any damages that may occur to my vehicle or myself while attempting said recovery and agree that I will not take litigative actions against __________ or any other parties involved with the recovery attempt, in the event of damages. This includes lawsuits, arbitration or any other legal means to collect damages.


_____________________________________________________
Approximate location of above incident


Signed,


______________ _________________
Signature of person requesting help Signature of person helping

______________ ___________
Date Date

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