Transmission work needed at 50,000 per Ford dealer

[Hickesy]

If I do get fed up with Ford, I will probably trade the truck in for a Jeep that the GF will get and I will take her Outback . . .

It's annoying because I see on the 6G forum whenever someone has a problem you get Ford CS popping up on the thread, asking for details etc. I don't think they care about us 5G lads any more

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[Jhbryaniv]

It's annoying because I see on the 6G forum whenever someone has a problem you get Ford CS popping up on the thread, asking for details etc. I don't think they ever cared care about us 5G lads any more

Fixed it for you.

 

[Jhbryaniv]

I think Ford hopes that by reprogramming and resetting the TCU it frees up the valves enough to work properly, or maybe knocks some of the crud loose. Or hopes the adaptives will jack the line pressure up and force the valves to move properly.

Who knows.

So I was rethinking this - would it not make sense than for Ford to reprogram the trans and drain, flush and replace the fluid at the same time?

to clear any debris in the fluid, and they could actually see wtf is going on inside the trans?

I guess in their minds though, if the reprogram doesn't fix it the R&R of the valves will fix it for sure and they will be able to see if there are other issues in step 2.

I know when I changed the fluid on my Subi trans at ~100K miles the trans felt totally different after, I couldn't tell you if it was better or worse, it was just different. I chalked that up to all the gunk the fluid had picked up over the years no longer being in there as a buffer or gummer. . .

But this is at ~22K miles there shouldn't be much in the fluid. . . shouldn't be. laf

 

[TJC]

I replaced 7.5qt of fluid and then added LubeGuard with the new fluid. Cleared up all my transmission shift issues.

I tried resetting the transmission tables prior to the fluid change, and after relearning it helped a little bit but quickly fell back into its old habits.

It's been 500 miles since I changed the fluid and everything seems fine. I was quite skeptical that this would work. So skeptical that I postponed doing it for a year.

If I were having shift problems I would not hesitate to change the fluid and add LubeGuard Platinum before taking it to Ford.

But I HATE taking my vehicles to Dealerships.

Hindsight is 20/20

 

[ctechbob]

I replaced 7.5qt of fluid and then added LubeGuard with the new fluid. Cleared up all my transmission shift issues.

I tried resetting the transmission tables prior to the fluid change, and after relearning it helped a little bit but quickly fell back into its old habits.

It's been 500 miles since I changed the fluid and everything seems fine. I was quite skeptical that this would work. So skeptical that I postponed doing it for a year.

If I were having shift problems I would not hesitate to change the fluid and add LubeGuard Platinum before taking it to Ford.

But I HATE taking my vehicles to Dealerships.

Hindsight is 20/20

Yep, I wish more people would try it. There's very little to lose, if any, and potential big gains.

 

[ctechbob]

So I was rethinking this - would it not make sense than for Ford to reprogram the trans and drain, flush and replace the fluid at the same time?

to clear any debris in the fluid, and they could actually see wtf is going on inside the trans?

I guess in their minds though, if the reprogram doesn't fix it the R&R of the valves will fix it for sure and they will be able to see if there are other issues in step 2.

I know when I changed the fluid on my Subi trans at ~100K miles the trans felt totally different after, I couldn't tell you if it was better or worse, it was just different. I chalked that up to all the gunk the fluid had picked up over the years no longer being in there as a buffer or gummer. . .

But this is at ~22K miles there shouldn't be much in the fluid. . . shouldn't be. laf

You would think, although.

Just a pure wild ass guess on my part.

If they start changing fluid, then they'll be admitting their 150k fluid change is BS and opening themselves up to something similar to what GM did with their 8 speeds.

'If you knew you needed to change the fluid, then why didn't you start offering it to owners under warranty'

That kind of thing.

Again, pure speculation. Just thinking about some of the things that were said in the GM 8 speed lawsuit depositions.

 

[TJC]

You may be correct about Ford reasoning on transmission fluid changes. But I can tell you with all certainty that you should change the fluid in the 10R80 much more often than Ford says.

My Ranger's transmission fluid at 20K miles was far darker than the fluid in my 2003 Maxima that had never been changed in 106K miles. The Maxima's fluid was redish brown instead of red. The Ranger's was BLACK. Not even a hint of red.

I will be changing my fluid on a regular basis here on out. And LubeGuard Platinum is going in each time the fluid is changed.

 

[TJC]

Yep, I wish more people would try it. There's very little to lose, if any, and potential big gains.

You've won me over! The results speak for themselves.

 

[Stevedbvik1]

Yep, I wish more people would try it. There's very little to lose, if any, and potential big gains.

My plan is to use it after new transmission is installed and a few weeks of making sure everything is good to go. Didn’t do it before for two reasons. Didn’t want Ford to have an excuse to back out of warranting it and didn’t think it would help with the CDF bushing migrating. I wondered if seeing it helps things move better that it would actually promote quicker CDF bushing movement ?

 

[ctechbob]

My plan is to use it after new transmission is installed and a few weeks of making sure everything is good to go. Didn’t do it before for two reasons. Didn’t want Ford to have an excuse to back out of warranting it and didn’t think it would help with the CDF bushing migrating. I wondered if seeing it helps things move better that it would actually promote quicker CDF bushing movement ?

See, I'm the opposite on that. I wonder if the CDF is moving because the valves are not moving as they should. Shocking the bushing so to speak.

That is just a total wild ass guess though, I have absolutely nothing to back that up.

The two issues are probably completely unrelated.

 

[Jhbryaniv]

See, I'm the opposite on that. I wonder if the CDF is moving because the valves are not moving as they should. Shocking the bushing so to speak.

That is just a total wild ass guess though, I have absolutely nothing to back that up.

The two issues are probably completely unrelated.

I mean, if valves aren't opening and closing as they should, that would change how fluid flows and how things engage, or fail to engage. . . .

 

[Stevedbvik1]

I mean, if valves aren't opening and closing as they should, that would change how fluid flows and how things engage, or fail to engage. . . .

Here’s a good explanation of what the issue is if anyone hasn’t seen this.

 

[TJC]

I think that there are multiple issues with the 10R80 transmission. Many on this forum have transmissions that have the upgraded CDF drum installed from the factory that are reporting shift issues.

I do think that the CDF drum issue is serious enough that Ford should recall every truck that they know has the defect and correct them.

But they won't.

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