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We should! I need to get new tires first my Nittos are about done right now. I'm looking to get new Toyo OC AT3's soon and would love to head up there. Sedona has a few nice trails too.
Yea man! Let’s get together. I wanna meet fellow ranger owners lol ?


I grew up in the snow and didn't own a truck or have 4WD. Did pretty good all those years! :like:
I wish I was around more snow!! I love playing in it!! Good tires I believe go a long way for snow!
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Yea man! Let’s get together. I wanna meet fellow ranger owners lol ?



I wish I was around more snow!! I love playing in it!! Good tires I believe go a long way for snow!
Throwin' iron!!! Tire chains for the win!
 

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I generally don't go into 4H or 4L or rear locker, until it's almost needed. Casually rolling along a gravel road in 4wd only adds wear to parts, tires and reduces fuel efficiency. Doing 60mph on the same gravel road in the rain, 4H is worthwhile.

It also depends if you are alone or with a group, and how well prepared you are to get unstuck if it happens. Whether it's 9am and you are out for a full play day, or 9pm and losing light with no food, water, and out of communication range.

On page 1, Duke nailed the best advice in this thread. There is no replacement for actual experience, and wheeling with a group of experienced and prepared people allows you to learn from doing it, while reducing the risk & damage.

Look for some local off-roading clubs and check out their social media pages - some are hardcore, others are not and they might have some meet ups where you can learn the basics while someone has your back. Family-friendly kind of stuff.

You and your kids will probably make some great friends at the same time. Good luck out there.
 

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You gotta start somewhere........

If someone feels the need to ask how to go offroad they should probably just have someone show them.

Not a knock at anyone, just a genuine feeling. Itll probably lead to a better first experience, and first impressions are everything.
 


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If someone feels the need to ask how to go offroad they should probably just have someone show them.

Not a knock at anyone, just a genuine feeling. Itll probably lead to a better first experience, and first impressions are everything.
I get it. it's a complex enough thing to do with lots of little details that you can't just read about and understand.

and honestly, when it comes down to it, things like recovery often require a need to improvise with whatever it is you have (or can find nearby).
 

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is the video not upside down for you like it is for me?
Yeah, I won't pretend to know what magic the servers for this forum do along the way, but the end result is nowhere near what I see on my PC with the original file. You should be able to use the facebook link I provided, which does a reasonable job of reproducing. I think with the FB link you can even see the rain that was picking up as we did this section. A few minutes later it started coming down hard and then didn't let up very much for the next 24 hours. This was a remnant of the same storm that caused massive flooding in Nevada and Arizona. We got off easy with just a single washout. Here's a pic of the section that washed out about 30 minutes after we went over it.
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Here we are going over it.
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And here is why we went - after 24 hours of rain we hiked up above the lake and got this vista:
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Yeah, I won't pretend to know what magic the servers for this forum do along the way, but the end result is nowhere near what I see on my PC with the original file. You should be able to use the facebook link I provided, which does a reasonable job of reproducing. I think with the FB link you can even see the rain that was picking up as we did this section. A few minutes later it started coming down hard and then didn't let up very much for the next 24 hours. This was a remnant of the same storm that caused massive flooding in Nevada and Arizona. We got off easy with just a single washout. Here's a pic of the section that washed out about 30 minutes after we went over it.
IMG_7441.jpg


Here we are going over it.
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And here is why we went - after 24 hours of rain we hiked up above the lake and got this vista:
20220806_ProtonDecay overlooking Leavitt Drainage.jpg
How do you like telling that camper off road?
 

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How do you like telling that camper off road?
Frenchy - been getting out a lot more past few years into the backcountry - I always marvel at some of the off road places I've gone and seen RVs and campers, several in places where I'd be hesistant to even take my Ranger, as in up/down some pretty steep rugged and/or winding roads and some of these are not small units. Assume these folks know what their doing but have seen a couple of campers that looked like they couldn't get them out and there they stayed until next summer - this during hunting trips in late Oct.
 

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I don't think there is a disengage for high stress. If there was, the Owner's Manual wouldn't caution against locking up on hard surfaces. It will disengage above 25mph and reengage at 20mph. In Sand Mode: 55/60/55

Whether you can perceive it or not, the locker will disengage at speeds quite bit lower than 80mph, unless you are in 4L.
Again, stop reading the manual, go out and do it.

Turn your locker on in 2Hi, mash the throttle, don't let up. Locker will stay on until you release the throttle despite the speed.

If you can't do this yourself I can provide video.

The manual is wrong/mistaken.
 

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If someone feels the need to ask how to go offroad they should probably just have someone show them.

Not a knock at anyone, just a genuine feeling. Itll probably lead to a better first experience, and first impressions are everything.
This.


The amount of people who require a YouTube video to do anything in life is ASTOUNDING.
 

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This.


The amount of people who require a YouTube video to do anything in life is ASTOUNDING.
To me the time people waste making useless youtube videos is equally astounding, usually within the 1st 30 secs one can tell it's a loser.
 

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How do you like telling that camper off road?
Oh, man, we love it :) We obviously can't drag the trailer all the same places we used to take the truck with a RTT, but we can get close and then drop the trailer. Nothing like having a real bathroom handy and a great shower if we're out for more than a couple of days. We pull the WDH bars and air the truck down pretty quickly after getting off-road unless it is an easy fire road. The only issue is the weight on a single "axle" means we can't do much on sand, mud or loose rock, but otherwise it pulls great on the trail (and we have a lot of toys to help us get unstuck when needed). The biggest advantage is, once we get to where we need to unhitch, we then have a very capable off-road truck that can fit through gaps and turns that would stop a full size truck, so we've yet to get stalled out of making it where we want to go.
 

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To me the time people waste making useless youtube videos is equally astounding, usually within the 1st 30 secs one can tell it's a loser.
It's the golden age of the internet.

Just wait till they get monetized it'll never end.
 
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Oh, man, we love it :) We obviously can't drag the trailer all the same places we used to take the truck with a RTT, but we can get close and then drop the trailer. Nothing like having a real bathroom handy and a great shower if we're out for more than a couple of days. We pull the WDH bars and air the truck down pretty quickly after getting off-road unless it is an easy fire road. The only issue is the weight on a single "axle" means we can't do much on sand, mud or loose rock, but otherwise it pulls great on the trail (and we have a lot of toys to help us get unstuck when needed). The biggest advantage is, once we get to where we need to unhitch, we then have a very capable off-road truck that can fit through gaps and turns that would stop a full size truck, so we've yet to get stalled out of making it where we want to go.
Do you fish those alpine lakes or know if there are fish ? When I was in the Sierras in the 80s was told acidity had wreaked havoc with trout population in the alpine lakes. It's happened to a lesser extent in CO plus the DOW here quit stocking many of the alpine lakes with non native trout, so it's mostly greenbacks if they stock the lakes at all. I found a gem of a lake with native cutts this past summer, naturally reproducing and hiked in 4 times to fish it, beautiful rio grande cutts, up to 23" .
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