Myths and Legends - Toyota reliability

[Bob902]

my brother has a 2019 silverado, already on 2nd transmission under 100k. had some electrical issues too.

that GM 8 speed is junk. One of the reasons I didn't look very hard at Colorado \Canyon.

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[halligan1201]

Somewhat of a dated article (March 2022), but Consumer Reports, which has never been kind to the Ford Ranger, finally comes out with a reliability ranking which puts the Ford Ranger and Honda Ridgeline tied for most reliable mid sized truck. Tacoma comes in 3rd, and the Gladiator, dead last after the Colorado, Canyon and Frontier. The Ranger and Ridgeline have a predicted reliability rating of “Above Average”, while the Tacoma is rated as “Average”. Gladiator is rated poor. When you consider the fact that the Ranger and Ridgeline are really two different types of trucks, i.e., Rangers’ body on frame versus the Ridgelines’ Unibody construction, it makes the Ford Rangers high rating even more impressive, especially given CR’s past disdain for American trucks.

While I will admit that the Tacoma is a decent truck, and it is still the top seller, it is not the mythical “most reliable” that it has been branded as, and which has kept their values so high.

Most reliable midsize truck

Consumer Reports relies heavily on owner surveys for their reliability rankings; while their reviews are based on staff experience driving the vehicle, the rest comes from surveys. So it was originally owner distain that drove reliability rankings down and owners that brought it back up. Given the short lifespan of the 5G Ranger, this tracks. Jeep has always ranked at the bottom of CR reliability rankings; the Grand Cherokee is the all-time least reliable vehicle based on CR owner surveys.

 

[NotBudule]

it should show the % per 1000 of each trucks time being in the shop and not drivable instead of asking some soccer mom if the car seats are easy enough to strap in , mom hates them and reliability takes a hit...

 

[db_tanker]

So I am curious...I know that the Aussie Rangers have different powertrains vs here in NA and that makes a BIG difference...however the electrics should be fairly similar...and good LORD the potential electrics issues that could manifest in these vehicles...back to my point though is that in Australia and globally as well the Ranger seems to poll rather highly vs the Hilux, Navarro, L200, and Amarok. Seeing as they used some of the bones from that global platform I think this truck is worthy of being regarded highly.

TBH I find it rather interesting, AND TELLING, that Honda does not market the Ridgeline outside of the US/Canada...I'd be curious how the Ridgeline would handle being used as a proper truck somewhere in NSW or somewhere in southern Africa.

 

[seanellaz]

Somewhat of a dated article (March 2022), but Consumer Reports, which has never been kind to the Ford Ranger, finally comes out with a reliability ranking which puts the Ford Ranger and Honda Ridgeline tied for most reliable mid sized truck. Tacoma comes in 3rd, and the Gladiator, dead last after the Colorado, Canyon and Frontier. The Ranger and Ridgeline have a predicted reliability rating of “Above Average”, while the Tacoma is rated as “Average”. Gladiator is rated poor. When you consider the fact that the Ranger and Ridgeline are really two different types of trucks, i.e., Rangers’ body on frame versus the Ridgelines’ Unibody construction, it makes the Ford Rangers high rating even more impressive, especially given CR’s past disdain for American trucks.

While I will admit that the Tacoma is a decent truck, and it is still the top seller, it is not the mythical “most reliable” that it has been branded as, and which has kept their values so high.

Most reliable midsize truck

Reason I got the Ranger over other makes included hi reliability rating by CR (Consumer Reports). For those who do not know, CR is a non profit. (Their executives do not exactly starve ; CEO made over $700K in 2020. Still pretty lean for a company with around 600 employees, so CEO and other execs are not greedy pigs.) They take no money from any advertisers, sellers, or manufacturers, and fight companies who would use their data as a product endorsement Any CR apparent "disdain" for any vehicle is reflected by and a reflection of the data. That is why I am a mbr of CR, they do not lie or bend the truth for money, rather provide empirically based, impartial info on which consumers can rely for intelligent decisions. I was so glad to see an American maker like Ford, finally break out of the crap pack of historically poorly built vehicles. Alas, Jeep and their Gladiator remain quite solidly in that camp of junk builds.

 

[jpisdamaged]

Reason I got the Ranger over other makes included hi reliability rating by CR (Consumer Reports). For those who do not know, CR is a non profit. (Their executives do not exactly starve ; CEO made over $700K in 2020. Still pretty lean for a company with around 600 employees, so CEO and other execs are not greedy pigs.) They take no money from any advertisers, sellers, or manufacturers, and fight companies who would use their data as a product endorsement Any CR apparent "disdain" for any vehicle is reflected by and a reflection of the data. That is why I am a mbr of CR, they do not lie or bend the truth for money, rather provide empirically based, impartial info on which consumers can rely for intelligent decisions. I was so glad to see an American maker like Ford, finally break out of the crap pack of historically poorly built vehicles. Alas, Jeep and their Gladiator remain quite solidly in that camp of junk builds.

Somewhat of a dated article (March 2022), but Consumer Reports, which has never been kind to the Ford Ranger, finally comes out with a reliability ranking which puts the Ford Ranger and Honda Ridgeline tied for most reliable mid sized truck. Tacoma comes in 3rd, and the Gladiator, dead last after the Colorado, Canyon and Frontier. The Ranger and Ridgeline have a predicted reliability rating of “Above Average”, while the Tacoma is rated as “Average”. Gladiator is rated poor.



Most reliable midsize truck

Somewhat of a dated article (March 2022), but Consumer Reports, which has never been kind to the Ford Ranger, finally comes out with a reliability ranking which puts the Ford Ranger and Honda Ridgeline tied for most reliable mid sized truck. Tacoma comes in 3rd, and the Gladiator, dead last after the Colorado, Canyon and Frontier. The Ranger and Ridgeline have a predicted reliability rating of “Above Average”, while the Tacoma is rated as “Average”. Gladiator is rated poor. When you consider the fact that the Ranger and Ridgeline are really two different types of trucks, i.e., Rangers’ body on frame versus the Ridgelines’ Unibody construction, it makes the Ford Rangers high rating even more impressive, especially given CR’s past disdain for American trucks.

While I will admit that the Tacoma is a decent truck, and it is still the top seller, it is not the mythical “most reliable” that it has been branded as, and which has kept their values so high.

Most reliable midsize truck

There may be another factor causing the Toyota to be low in this comparison.
Years ago Chrysler introduced the Neon. The thing had a horrible reputation for reliability. They dropped it and released the PT Cruzer with the exact same power train but changed the body. It had one of the best reputations for reliability Chrysler had. What happened? They didn’t change anything in the drivetrain. What did change was who bought the car and drove it. The Neon was targeted for first time drivers. It was cheep had cool colors and commercials for teenagers. They destroyed them. PT Cruzers were snatched up by Grandmas. Parked
them in the garage and, well, drove them like a little old lady’s. I still see them around.
the Tacoma is probably one of the most abused and modified trucks on the planet. Driven by a bunch of l4x4 flying lunatics. Compare that to your typical Honda Ridgeline and Ranger driver and you have a possible reason why the Tacoma has lower reliability and at the same time a high one for surviving flying lunatics behind the wheel. If you put the same crowed in the Ridgeline and Rangers I’m thinking more things are going to snap than they do now.

 

[tentspast]

Reminds me of that old cartoon with a graph showing percentage of people who would throw a survey in the bin - 98% said No

 

[AutobotXJ]

Reminds me of that old cartoon with a graph showing percentage of people who would throw a survey in the bin - 98% said No

Surveys can (and many times are) designed in a way to skew the results. I am always curious to see the questions and how they were asked.

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