Is the Patagonia AT Pro the perfect tire?

[idahofarmboy]

I'm wondering why this tire isn't more popular. On paper it beats everything.

After reading all 34 pages of the tire fitment thread I decided on 285 70r17 tires. I have Fox level front, readylift crash bars, and 1 inch BDS shackles in the back. Wheels will be +25 offset. So they should fit without rubbing.

Then I looked into tire options.

The Patagonia AT Pro is made in USA, 3pmsf rated, has 18/32 tread depth, is LT/E rated and only 51 pounds. 55k mile warranty.

Everyone says E rated is overkill and too heavy. It's 5 pounds lighter than BFG KO3 C rated. 15 pound lighter than Falken Wildpeak C rated. So, why not have an E rated that's lighter weight?

The only tires I could find that are lighter are SL tires and none of them have as deep of tread. Most only have 14/32 tread.

Does anyone have first hand experience with these?

My new Method wheels will be here next week and I think I'm going to give these a try unless anyone has terrible first hand experience to share.

As you can see from the picture, my truck NEEDS bigger tires now.

P.S. This is my first post but I've been reading everything on here for the past month. Thanks for the wealth of knowledge!

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[Frenchy]

Them fighting words there boy!

That said I prefer the Firestone Destination XT myself. For the same size it is also a Load E and weighs 51 lbs. Yes it is 3 Peak rated(and actually means it vs others I have used) is regularly available and has yet to cause me issues with the 4 sets I have run.

If you want to go with the Patagonia, go right ahead, but there will be plenty on here stubborn enough to stick with the K02/3 or go with the Wildpeak tires that are made in Taiwan(BTW the Firestone is made in Canada)

 

[NvrFinished]

I have the same setup as you, just Eibach Pro 2 instead of Fox and the multi-leaf global Ranger rear spring (3/4" lift). The tire size fits well.

I think this tire is fairly new or updated? The specs look good. If you like how they look, go for it!

I got tired of waiting for the new BFG KO3 and opted for the Maxxis Razr A/T in the same size and load rating you are looking at. It's a great tire, both on and off road. It's heavier at 59 lbs, though. Price is about $50 less than the Patagonia.

 

[idahofarmboy]

Them fighting words there boy!

That said I prefer the Firestone Destination XT myself. For the same size it is also a Load E and weighs 51 lbs. Yes it is 3 Peak rated(and actually means it vs others I have used) is regularly available and has yet to cause me issues with the 4 sets I have run.

If you want to go with the Patagonia, go right ahead, but there will be plenty on here stubborn enough to stick with the K02/3 or go with the Wildpeak tires that are made in Taiwan(BTW the Firestone is made in Canada)

Those are very comparable specs. 1/16" less tread but comparable weight and Canadians know how to make a tire that works in snow.

Another good option to consider!

 

[idahofarmboy]

I have the same setup as you, just Eibach Pro 2 instead of Fox and the multi-leaf global Ranger rear spring (3/4" lift). The tire size fits well.

I think this tire is fairly new or updated? The specs look good. If you like how they look, go for it!

I got tired of waiting for the new BFG KO3 and opted for the Maxxis Razr A/T in the same size and load rating you are looking at. It's a great tire, both on and off road. It's heavier at 59 lbs, though. Price is about $50 less than the Patagonia.

Glad to know they fit! I don't want rubbing.
59 lbs is heavier than I want though. Hoping to stay close to 50

 

[YaBoiNewton]

I'm wondering why this tire isn't more popular. On paper it beats everything.

After reading all 34 pages of the tire fitment thread I decided on 285 70r17 tires. I have Fox level front, readylift crash bars, and 1 inch BDS shackles in the back. Wheels will be +25 offset. So they should fit without rubbing.

Then I looked into tire options.

The Patagonia AT Pro is made in USA, 3pmsf rated, has 18/32 tread depth, is LT/E rated and only 51 pounds. 55k mile warranty.

Everyone says E rated is overkill and too heavy. It's 5 pounds lighter than BFG KO3 C rated. 15 pound lighter than Falken Wildpeak C rated. So, why not have an E rated that's lighter weight?

The only tires I could find that are lighter are SL tires and none of them have as deep of tread. Most only have 14/32 tread.

Does anyone have first hand experience with these?

My new Method wheels will be here next week and I think I'm going to give these a try unless anyone has terrible first hand experience to share.

As you can see from the picture, my truck NEEDS bigger tires now.

P.S. This is my first post but I've been reading everything on here for the past month. Thanks for the wealth of knowledge!

Idk about perfect, but I would agree that it looks like a good tire and you certainly wouldn't be making a mistake buying it. IMO it's just another aggressive-ish all terrain that can be found for less money than the competitors. Not the perfect tire for me, as I prefer tires with more mud capability, but yeah it's pretty good. For the money I would pick it over a KO3 or Wildpeak AT if I was looking for that class of tire.

The E-load being overkill thing is real, but subtle and not super noticeable in every day driving. You will notice the difference immediately if you drive around on some E-rated truck tires and then drive something with p-rated highway tires - the ride is way better on passenger tires. I have E-rated 255/80R17 Duratrac RTs and yeah...they're stiff. My Father in-law has a 2020 Fx4 still stock and I was shocked at the ride quality difference. My wife and I were both like "oh my god we ruined our truck". No regrets, I'm very happy with my choices, but yeah the stock tires roll really nicely on the road.

The real loss here is money. It's not really worth buying E-rated tires if you're not going to do things that require E-rated construction. The Standard Load tire weighs less, costs less, is the same size, and has a higher load rating than the OEM Hankooks.

 

[awd.nv]

All I can tell you is that I love my K03 285/70/17 so much that I will blindly buy another set when these wear out. Way better than the K02 in every way which were better than the General tires on the Tremor. I have owned Ridge Grapplers on another vehicle and Toyo AT3 as well. The K03 are my favorite for tougher tasks.

The AT3 are fine for the '23 Pilot we have them on since it is mostly street and snow use. We don't "off-road" in it and while light, they would worry me going through a rock garden.

E-Rated, even if lighter than some C-Rated means they will be stiffer, if your load justifies it, great, otherwise it may be stiffer even when airing down.

K03 are heavy, shoot cost me a solid 1 mpg over the same size k02 on this Ranger but for off-roading it is a trade-off I am ok with for durability.

 

[Burnt Money]

Buying tires stresses me out lol. It’s not
a short term commitment. I feel like all tires are good for the first few thousand miles then the issues show up. I’m a little over 45k miles with the Cooper Rugged Trek E rated tires. The only reason I have the E rated is because the tire shop put them on by accident and charged me the same as the non E rated. I tow my boat frequently with about 1 trip a year over 1k miles round trip. I will say the E rated tires feel more stable towing. I drive down rutted out dirt roads all the time so maybe the stiffer sidewalls are a benefit for me but I honestly think I would be fine without them. If your rock crawling the thicker sidewalls might definitely be an advantage. But I’ve never rock crawled in my life so I’m just guessing lol. If you get them definitely update everyone on them long term!

 

[Blmpkn]

Imo the Kenda klever RT is the perfect tire.. for my use case anyhow.

Perfect is going to be extremely subjective.

 

[awd.nv]

Buying tires stresses me out lol. It’s not
a short term commitment. I feel like all tires are good for the first few thousand miles then the issues show up. I’m a little over 45k miles with the Cooper Rugged Trek E rated tires. The only reason I have the E rated is because the tire shop put them on by accident and charged me the same as the non E rated. I tow my boat frequently with about 1 trip a year over 1k miles round trip. I will say the E rated tires feel more stable towing. I drive down rutted out dirt roads all the time so maybe the stiffer sidewalls are a benefit for me but I honestly think I would be fine without them. If your rock crawling the thicker sidewalls might definitely be an advantage. But I’ve never rock crawled in my life so I’m just guessing lol. If you get them definitely update everyone on them long term!

I agree about the tire decision. They aren't cheap and you are stuck with them unless you change them early and sell them used.

Every tire I have purchased for off-road was too much time researching my decision. Man, on-road tires I never struggled this much. I think now too, we have so many youtube videos and resources that clouds our decisions. It was easier when there was just one magazine tire shootout to consider for data.

 

[brroberts]

There is no perfect tire. Everyone’s needs are different and each tire is trying to balance a set of compromises. The same is true for the vehicles we put them on.

 

[Burnt Money]

There is no perfect tire. Everyone’s needs are different and each tire is trying to balance a set of compromises. The same is true for the vehicles we put them on.

You’re spot on. Everything is a compromise. That’s what I tell everyone when they are boat shopping. You aren’t gonna go fish redfish in the grass in the same boat you’re going to fish reefs on 20 miles out lol.

 

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20 miles out

Me? 20 miles out? If I’m going “we’re gonna need a bigger boat.”

 

[idahofarmboy]

Me? 20 miles out? If I’m going “we’re gonna need a bigger boat.”

That picture makes me so proud to be a Navy vet!

 

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That picture makes me so proud to be a Navy vet!

There’s a reason I was Army. Much happier with mud/dirt under my ass versus ocean.

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