I'm impressed with

[SubVet]

I like the fact that it's not a Tacoma. Otherwise, I'm far far less OCD owning a truck than I was with my cars.

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[Mokume]

The parking thing drives me nuts! Pull into driveway, stop, engine shuts off, put it in park, engine starts, turn off engine. There's gotta be a better way, like turning off the key and then putting it in park?

That and the half second stop starts are what drive me batty. I'm all for saving fuel down to the point where I'm paranoid about putting rock sliders on because they'd add 120lbs, and that's a 1-2% decrease according to the EPA. But those two things are truly annoying, don't know how much you can do about the half second stop/starts though other than thinking ahead and hitting the button.

Back to the subject title, I've found myself really impressed/enamored with the wiper controls the past week or so. The pass-through switch for interval is such a clever little piece of design.

All the more reason why I plan to mod such systems to suit me with Forscan once I get my truck hopefully by Feb. next year. I've already ordered an adapter from Amazon, the first thing I plan to eliminate is the auto stop-auto start feature.
I already call it ASS for short.
For you Forscan fans here, by disabling ASS will I get a constant reminder that the system has been disabled at the start of each drive cycle?
I already know it's been turned off, don't need any reminders.

 

[THLONE]

As was said in the air pressure checking how to, some people actually dont know. So some people need t know that their ASS is off.

 

[scubalizard]

yes a longer delay between putting on the foot break and engine shut down would be appreciated. And shut downs at stop signs or if you know that the light will change very soon. I have become a finger ninja in finding the override button recently.

 

[scubalizard]

from what i understand, you'll only will be notified at truck key start up that your ASS is off. I'd question the forscan method as there was some talk of removing your ASS will also remove battery management and some other stuff. I do believe also the forscan will not allow you to enter back into your ASS until you change the forscan settings again. there is a ODBII mod that will just remember your last setting (why this isn't a thing, thanks EPA), that will run you about $100.

 

[stevensc]

That's the great thing about direct injection compared to port injected or worse - carbureted, the fuel gain is instantaneous. Since the fuel is injected directly into the cylinder, there is no fuel left to slosh around in the manifold, which is where the old saying of "it takes more fuel to restart compared to let it idle" comes from. That fuel that was in the manifold would settle down to low points (valves) and then go through the cylinders unburned while you're turning it over to restart. Direct injected sprays only what is needed for that stroke into the chamber. So it allows you to do things like shut off the fuel during coast down or at a red light and instantly have fuel savings - even if it's not a ton.



Let's do some mostly arbitrary math with some assumptions. My truck gets around 30mpg going 45mph, which seems to be the sweetest spot. Which means that it's consuming 1.5gal/hr at that speed. Let's assume that the engine is basically not under a lot of strain there, and the stoichiometric ratio is pretty much the same there as it is at idle. And let's also assume it is at 2000rpm there and 600rpm at idle. That means that at idle, it will be consuming .45gal/hr. This means that when you're stopped at a red light for an average time of 30 seconds, you're saving .00375 gallons of fuel. Let's also assume you get stuck at 3 red lights on your way to/from work each day... So in the course of a week, that's .1125 gallons. And 50 weeks a year, that's 5.625 gallons of fuel saved.

If you drive the average of 12,000 miles a year, and you get the 22mpg overall that the sticker shows, then you're consuming 545.5 gallons a year. So this 5.6 gallon Stop/Start savings represents a 1% fuel savings. Is it that big of a deal? Nah - but based on advertisements (and my mom, who has like 18 different credit cards and uses each one depending on if it's groceries/pharmacy/fuel/airline/hotel/etc), people will switch credit cards to get a similar level of savings on cash back rewards over their current credit card. Then again, I think the hassle of tracking down that marginal gain isn't worth the complexity of having specialized credit cards, and just stick with a decent overall card - so you could make the same argument here - the 1% fuel savings isn't worth the hassle of dealing with stop/start.

How about wear and tear of the starter cycling 30 times a day vs 5?
Steve W

 

[RedlandRanger]

How about wear and tear of the starter cycling 30 times a day vs 5?
Steve W

I believe the starter system has been engineered to handle the auto stop/start. I don't think that should be a concern.

 

[Tangent]

How about wear and tear of the starter cycling 30 times a day vs 5?
Steve W

The salesman explained it to me as "the starters are extra-heavy duty and gel insulated." Which doesn't mean shit to me, but I also don't know shit about starter engineering so.... :shrug:

I trust Ford to think it through enough to design the starters to be more robust.

 

[khyros]

How about wear and tear of the starter cycling 30 times a day vs 5?
Steve W

Yup, these are new heavy duty starters designed for numerous restarts. Plus the load on the starter to restart a warm engine is much lower than to start a cold engine. As such, 5 regular starts with 25 restarts is not 6x as much wear - probably closer to 2x, on a starter designed to handle 3x.

 

[Paul Lelowicz]

Everything about my Ranger. But especially when I get out of my truck( like today) and a young man comes up asking me all about the Ranger and telling me what a beautiful truck it is. Hard to stop smiling. Beautiful? Yes...yes it is!

Had a gal at my office approach me in the break room and ask if that was me that drives the Ranger. She said she noticed me getting into it after work and thought it was a really sharp looking truck. (Don't think she was hitting on me, just my Ranger). She owned one many years ago.

 

[MTB-BRUH]

That's only if you consider start/stop to be a hassle. Personally, I don't. Sure it's maybe only 1%. But it's a free 1%. Those turning off start/stop, either by pushing the button every time or buying something to stop it, are essentially wasting time and/or money to NOT save that 1%. Obviously they're trading that 1% of savings for not having to deal with the perceived "hassle". And that's fine, we all have to make a choice and compromise on things to get what we want. Personally I'd rather do nothing and save fuel. Your experience may vary.

Also consider the extra strain on your starter.. I suppose we will see how that plays out in the future but no doubt if you use stop start your starter will need replaced sooner. That is if you keep the rig long enough to wear a starter out.

 

[Deleted member 1634]

Also consider the extra strain on your starter.. I suppose we will see how that plays out in the future but no doubt if you use stop start your starter will need replaced sooner. That is if you keep the rig long enough to wear a starter out.

A lot of people have been saying that. But the consensus has been that Ford obviously designed the system, including the starter motor, to handle this sort of added "abuse". It's not like it wasn't tested with the worst conditions in mind. And it's not like the Ranger is the first vehicle to include start/stop. It's been around for awhile. See @khyros post above from mere hours ago, and other countless posts around the forum, including from actual Ford employees (current and former), for reference.

 

[jlmotox]

the way i understand the auto start/stop is that the computer stops the engine in a specific position to where it just needs a bump from the starter to fire up also the fuel system stays pressurized. If you notice there is no "cranking" of the starter like if you turn the key to start. I see no starter related issues due to using the auto start/stop as it was made to do this.

 

[Traneman]

the way i understand the auto start/stop is that the computer stops the engine in a specific position to where it just needs a bump from the starter to fire up also the fuel system stays pressurized. If you notice there is no "cranking" of the starter like if you turn the key to start. I see no starter related issues due to using the auto start/stop as it was made to do this.

I agree with you, the start on the Auto Start/Stop is super quick.

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