Huummm... Which oil to use??... Does not really matter...

[AzScorpion]

No results yet? A week or two is a long time to get test results. Usually 3-4 days. Just curious as I’m running out of popcorn

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[JohnnyO]

I'm generalizing, but two things have served me well putting well over 100,000 miles on everything I've owned. Over 200,000 on my old Sport Trac.

1. I still believe in doing the first oil change early on a new vehicle, like 2500 miles, then again at 5000 miles.
2. How often you change the oil is more important than what brand you use. For me, name-brand synthetic changed every 5000 miles.

Recently my tailgate damper started making a loud groaning noise on the way down. Need to get some Lucas Damper Fluid Conditioner.

 

[AzScorpion]

I'm generalizing, but two things have served me well putting well over 100,000 miles on everything I've owned. Over 200,000 on my old Sport Trac.

1. I still believe in doing the first oil change early on a new vehicle, like 2500 miles, then again at 5000 miles.
2. How often you change the oil is more important than what brand you use. For me, name-brand synthetic changed every 5000 miles.

Recently my tailgate damper started making a loud groaning noise on the way down. Need to get some Lucas 303 Damper Fluid Conditioner.

Fixed it for you.

 

[21rangerCactus]

I'm happy with my Amsoil. I don't go around telling people it's the end all be all but for me it works. I have a commercial account. I order enough to last me a couple years and it's shipped to my door. On multiple vehicles I've owned, oil consumption has went down when switching to amsoil. I will say, I might change here soon. Amsoil went up in price a few months ago and I just don't know if it's worth it. I just hate making changes. I know once I switch oils I'll start hear "noises" and I'll go mad. Lmao.

If I'm asked to recommend an oil I tell them to pick one and stick to your recommended oil interval. Anything past that I then tell them to do thier own research and consider sending off oil samples to be analyzed.

 

[IdahoRanger]

No results yet? A week or two is a long time to get test results. Usually 3-4 days. Just curious as I’m running out of popcorn

Get a bigger container.

 

[ontheroad]

Get a bigger container.

Can you cook popcorn in Mobil 1? Asking for a friend.

 

[lariat]

Food for thought.... just found it interesting...

The Science Behind Million Mile Engines!

"A radiotracer method was developed to measure real-time wear rates of piston rings and cylinder bores in spark-ignition engines. Initial work determined baseline wear rates during break-in and steady-state operating conditions. This work examines the effects of lubricant properties on wear rates of the ring/bore interface. Results show that engine oil service classification, the level of antiwear additives, severe engine aging, synthetic formulations, and viscosity classification have little or no impact on wear rates.

These results suggest that concerns of wear between the rings and cylinder bore may not be a roadblock to extended oil-change intervals.

Engine operation under cold temperatures appears to be a very important factor in ring/bore wear.

Copyright © 2006 GM Global Technology Operations, Inc. Published by SAE International with permission."

 

[lariat]

Good video and well worth watching!

What's interesting is the wear rate is the same whether you let it warm up for 20 minutes, or run it WOT without warming it up. Even after hearing that I still can't bring myself to jump in and go without at least warming it up until the rpms drop. His testing was using an engine block heater and a oil pan heater.

Like Richard said the type of oil and viscosity didn't matter either it was the temperature of the oil that matters the most. So using all those expensive oils like Amsoil and additives are just a huge waste of money. The main study was done by GM testing 13 different types of oil and viscosity.

Another thing it showed is that there was 2-3 times more fuel in the oil in the unheated engines than there were in the one where he used the block heater and oil pan heater. This might give those with this same problem some answers as to why you're having it and those who live in warmer climates (engine/oil doesn't get as cold overnight) don't.

For those in cold climates may need to pay attention more so than those in lower Western states.

Engine operation under cold temperatures appears to be a very important factor in ring/bore wear.

Copyright © 2006 GM Global Technology Operations, Inc. Published by SAE International with permission.

 

[Grandaccess]

No results yet? A week or two is a long time to get test results. Usually 3-4 days. Just curious as I’m running out of popcorn

I was wondering too, I will email him and ask because I have heard nothing

 

[dozxab]

The one thing they did not cover, which I had heard about in the days of yore, is a pre-pressurizing system where a couple quarts of oil are held in a tank at 80-90 psi and released just before the starter is engaged.... and refilled and repressurized while you drive. Would that make any difference?? I don't know how fast the oil pressure comes up to spec but I think it is fairly quick... given that most engines pump 4 to 6 gallons of oil per minute!! (That figure just blows me away... that you can shove that much oil there the filter let alone the rest of the system is amazing).

As I read and watch this stuff, having no pressure at crank time is main causality of the high wear. Going to all the trouble of heating the oil, I would not expect it to matter all that much... pre-pressurizing the system make sense to me even if it is not particularly practical.

I have a 3.6 Pentastar in my 2014 Jeep Wanger and it just sits in the driveway until I get the urge for some off road fun. It has a stupid design with a screen filter mounted at the top of the motor, above the intake. I generally crank it with the throttle fully depressed to prevent starting for 10 to 15 seconds as a precaution against the low pressure issue. One time, I was in a hurry to meet some friends and just fired it up. Listened to rattling in the motor briefly as I kicked myself. I will not do that again.

 

[dozxab]

For those in cold climates may need to pay attention more so than those in lower Western states.

Engine operation under cold temperatures appears to be a very important factor in ring/bore wear.

Copyright © 2006 GM Global Technology Operations, Inc. Published by SAE International with permission.

My idea of a cold start now is 55 degrees. In AZ, that is sweater and jacket weather.

 

[AzScorpion]

My idea of a cold start now is 55 degrees. In AZ, that is sweater and jacket weather.

You're a little bit braver than me Dave. I'm all done after 60*.

 

[lariat]

You're a little bit braver than me Dave. I'm all done after 60*.

I think you grew up East Coast, correct? I grew up in the cold and experienced some of coldest winters ever recorded (-27/-60 windchill), but 60 degrees is about as cold as I like it now.

 

[dozxab]

You're a little bit braver than me Dave. I'm all done after 60*.

56 years living in Massachusetts and New Hampshire, I got a little used to it. 13 years in Arizona changed all that. I can still handle 55° though. That is subject to change without notification.

 

[AzScorpion]

I think you grew up East Coast, correct? I grew up in the cold and experienced some of coldest winters ever recorded (-27/-60 windchill), but 60 degrees is about as cold as I like it now.

56 years living in Massachusetts and New Hampshire I got a little used to it. 13 years in Arizona changed all that. I can still handle 55° though. That is subject to change without notification.

Yup, I grew up in WMA and spent 51 years there. I've had my share of Nor'Easters and sub zero weather to never want to encounter them again. lol

We use to snowmobile up in Fort Kent/Eagle Lake Maine every February and it was always -20 in the mornings without the windchill. Looking back I must of been out of my mind doing that because now I hate the cold. I don't mind it "chilly" where you can wear a hoodie in the morning and it's off by 10:00am and just a light, long sleeve shirt. I'm in shorts here 365 and have been since 1/2/2016 when I stepped off the airplane.

Ken @oldnslow we're pretty much neighbors now. I'm just south of you in Green Valley. We love it down here!

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