Anyone do a tune AND an extended warranty?

[Progeny2021]

It's really hard to have a fruitful conversation with anyone that has their mind positioned the way you do, but I will attempt so we can gather some facts.

First, that is not 93 octane. See the location? Hemet, CA. This is a 91 octane pull at best.

Nobody needs to be ashamed because things aren't made to your liking. The FPP tune is meant to be super safe. I don't understand exactly what your problem with it is.

You are foolish to make so many presumptions. The image leaves out ALOT of info. Keep making empty insinuations without anything to back it up. Could be a supercharged Yugo (or nothing at al). Make a constructive contribution to the conversation or just go back to where ever you came from....

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[Vitis805]

You are foolish to make so many presumptions. The image leaves out ALOT of info. Keep making empty insinuations without anything to back it up. Could be a supercharged Yugo (or nothing at al). Make a constructive contribution to the conversation or just go back to where ever you came from....

Dude, you have been making presumptions throughout this entire thread. First you presume there are no dynos of the FPP tune which you were dead wrong. Then you look at a California dyno sheet and presume the octane to be 93, again you were dead wrong. 93 Isn't available in California. The FPP tune adds atleast 40 whp dyno proven. Sorry that facts and numbers make you mad. /endthread

 

[MountainGoat]

Just ordered the Livernois. Exciting!....except they are backordered, said more would come in next month "hopefully".

 

[Joeiconic]

As I said, I have the Ford tune and I’m happy with it. It’s a nice bump that I can feel in the seat of my pants and I’m confident It’s safe. If you feel the need to push the engine closer to its limits, then it’s not for you.

 

[Vitis805]

@MountainGoat the Livernois tune is the only aftermarket tune I'd consider

Lets clear up a couple misconceptions about the FPP tune though. You don't need a dealer to install it, and you can switch back to the 87 stock tune anytime you want. I do it all the time.

 

[Joeiconic]

Its less than other tunes, yes.. but being up 45hp for a grand can't at all reasonably be called measly.

Agreed. My first car was a 1979/80 Datsun 310, and if I recall correctly it had 65 hp. Top speed on flat highway was about 65, but it got over 40 mpg. Back then I could drive all week for $5.

 

[MountainGoat]

@MountainGoat the Livernois tune is the only aftermarket tune I'd consider

Lets clear up a couple misconceptions about the FPP tune though. You don't need a dealer to install it, and you can switch back to the 87 stock tune anytime you want. I do it all the time.

This is what I got regarding the FPP stuff. What it's saying is IF installed by a tech and your engine blows, that is covered under the FPP own 3-year warranty, but which begins and ends with your new 3 year. If you bought new and immediately had the FPP installed you'd have your standard 3 year engine/driveline. But if I bought it for my 2020 I'd only have it for another year about. So really it doesn't make much difference. The question is how's that work with a Ford ESP 8 year...looks like it voids it and replaces with its own 3 year which expires at 3 years (if the FPP is the cause of the damage).

Performance Packs and Components are warranted for factory-supplied material or workmanship when correctly
and completely installed on a late model Ford vehicle by an authorized Ford or Lincoln Dealer, Shelby American,
Inc., or an automotive service technician certified by the Institute for Automotive Service Excellence (ASE) or
endorsed by the Red Seal Program (RSE). This Performance Packs and Components Limited Warranty begins
upon installation and registration of the part(s) with Ford Performance and remains in effect for the balance of 36
months or 36,000 miles / 60,000 kilometres, whichever occurs first, calculated from the start date of the
manufacturer's New Vehicle Limited Warranty.
Installation of these select Ford Performance warranted performance packs and components by an
authorized installer will NOT void your New Vehicle Limited Warranty. Engine, driveline and suspension
concerns not caused by the use of Ford Performance parts remain eligible for warranty coverage according to the
terms of the New Vehicle Limited Warranty.

Even when operating properly, Ford Performance parts, such as
these, have the potential to adversely impact other systems of the vehicle. If an adverse impact is caused by a
warranted Ford Performance pack or component, the period and coverage of this Ford Performance Limited
Warranty applies to the repairs.
[quote/]

 

[Joeiconic]

Ford would have to say that the tune they designed, developed, advertised and enticed me to buy, damaged my engine and is not covered under the extended warranty they also pushed me to buy. My guess Ford denies very few, if any, warranty claims for engines using their own tune, since they would effectively have to blame themselves for the failure. They would have much better footing to deny claims involving 3rd party tunes.

 

[Frenchy]

What you need to do is check the fine print with the extended warranty. It could be void if you install a tune or any aftermarket performance part. Many extended warranty companies do this stuff.

 

[Progeny2021]

@MountainGoat the Livernois tune is the only aftermarket tune I'd consider

Lets clear up a couple misconceptions about the FPP tune though. You don't need a dealer to install it, and you can switch back to the 87 stock tune anytime you want. I do it all the time.

Truth be known, one can install the FRPP tune themselves as long as everything is properly documented. Switch back to the stock tune? The exact same procedure as the Livernois because they use identical Calibrators.

The advantage here being the price break from Livernois. The Long Island, NY Ford dealer on here gives a good discount on the FRPP kit too. Sadly, I could no longer find the FRPP kit on the FP website....

 

[Vitis805]

My guess Ford denies very few, if any, warranty claims for engines using their own tune, since they would effectively have to blame themselves for the failure. They would have much better footing to deny claims involving 3rd party tunes.

This x1000. All it takes is a little google-fu. There hasn't been one case of Ford blaming their own tune on any ecoboost vehicle and subsequent denial of warranty claims.

There was a member on here that had a 5-Star tune that was denied warranty. This is enough for me to not go aftermarket. I don't care what the gains are or the price savings.

I literally just got done with warranty work on my driveshaft and transmission two weeks ago. I installed the FPP tune myself. Your dealer may vary, but mine DGAF about my level lift, bigger tires, or the FPP tune. I am confident my extended warranty with Ford is not in any danger.

 

[lawrench]

This is why I have had the dealer install all of my after-market stuff. Yes, I paid more for the Ford parts and to have the dealer install those items, but it will still be covered under warranty.

 

[Progeny2021]

Extreme Mustangs/Extreme Performance of Monroe, NC is a Ford Performance vendor and handles related warranty claims.

Owner stated he has NEVER had a claim denied on a vehicle with any tune, aftermarket or otherwise. He wondered why I didn't install the FRPP tune myself, or buy from an outside vendor.

I related my story, he ran into the same issues the dealer did, phoned Ford Performance a couple of times to get the situation resolved.

 

[Wytchdctr]

Just ordered the Livernois. Exciting!....except they are backordered, said more would come in next month "hopefully".

I am getting in line in about a week.

 

[MountainGoat]

I am getting in line in about a week.

The price went up $100 and their parts are stuck in a port. Said will probably ship out late September.

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